Honor Magic4 Ultimate
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Honor Magic4 Ultimate

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  • 14 May 2022

I don't know if this is a case of overpromising and under delivering or just not delivering at all, but the ones that are available so far don't support google play services. After the fiasco about the P50 Pro Plus now being as useful as a Symbian Nokia at this point, I'm not doing the side loading thing.

    mooox, 07 May 2022The point is, honor does not use huawei code already, based... moreYou still don't understand what I said. How simple are you?
    What Honor devices do you have?

      Michy, 25 Apr 2022Hi, Which phone ??? This Honor ... or the next Xiaomi 12... more11 Ultra if possible, or wait for the 12.
      This one is... well it is questionable.

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        • mooox
        • ucw
        • 07 May 2022

        notafanboy, 29 Apr 2022Let me say this once again so you completely understand thi... moreThe point is, honor does not use huawei code already, based on the couple of devices I have on hand. GMS is very simple to install, unlike the huawei phones which seem to actively disallow GMS.

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          • Kev
          • 0Za
          • 05 May 2022

          notafanboy, 25 Apr 2022I don't give a rat's ass about 8K recording and n... moreIt's so funny. I remember it was Meizu or some other unknown company that had a phone with a dedicated camera for recording 1080p video. It was a 2MP camera with a normal focal length and OIS. And the funny thing is, the pixel was something enormous like 2.5 microns. In other words, The individual pixel size in the 2MP "camcorder" were bigger than this Magic 4 Ultimate, BINNED.

          Such a camera designed to record 8K would be enormous. Napkin math based upon that 1080p camcorder hints that the sensor needs to be around 4 times larger than the 1/1.12 senor this Magic 4 Ultimate has. (12.5MP to 33MP with same pixel pitch)

          That said, a 4K camcorder is probably possible and feasible. 4K is basically an 8MP camera. So, if we increase the 1.12 micron-sized 1/4.0 sensors we see today, and inflate the pixel pitch to 2.24, that would mean a regular 48MP 1/2.0 sensor-sized 4K camcorder.

            Can't trust these guys on Google play services. When magic 3 was released they said the same thing. You can find articles where the CEO of honor talking about having GES into magic 3 and 50 series.

              mooox, 29 Apr 2022Don't be silly. Phones release in China don't hav... moreLet me say this once again so you completely understand this time. Let's say you live in Europe. You imported a Vivo X70 Pro Plus. Chinese model. With OceanOS. You're right, it doesn't have GMS. But it can easily be installed. With Honor and Huawei phones (again, CHINESE variants) it requires some heavy work. Get it yet?

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                • mooox
                • ucw
                • 29 Apr 2022

                notafanboy, 29 Apr 2022Honor phones that are not released Globally, still use code... moreDon't be silly. Phones release in China don't have GMS because GMS doesn't work in China. If you have a phone with GMS in China, you'll see the phone desperately trying to phone home all the time, and your battery goes to hell unless you VPN overseas to let your phone send its data to google. Go do a search for degoogling phones and you will see that battery life doubles with degoogled phones. Hence, no self-respecting phone manufacturer in china would install GMS unless they can't help it (they have to install their own spyware afterall).

                  darodassa, 27 Apr 2022this os honor, it has google servicesHonor phones that are not released Globally, still use code from Huawei so they don't have GMS pre installed. Look it up on XDA forums.

                  Honor Magic 4 Pro (global) will have GMS
                  Honor Magic 4 Ultimate (it won't release globally, only in China) won't have GMS

                  very simple.

                    Michy, 25 Apr 2022Hi, Which phone ??? This Honor ... or the next Xiaomi 12... morexiaomi 12 ultra, it'll be a colaboration with leica, so the camera will be top notch

                      Michy, 25 Apr 2022Hi, Which phone ??? This Honor ... or the next Xiaomi 12... morethis 100%

                        notafanboy, 26 Apr 2022Xiaomi if you need Google services which are required for c... morethis os honor, it has google services

                          Michy, 25 Apr 2022Hi, Which phone ??? This Honor ... or the next Xiaomi 12... moreXiaomi if you need Google services which are required for certain apps to work.

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                            • teddy
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                            • 26 Apr 2022

                            sars values?

                              notafanboy, 25 Apr 2022I don't give a rat's ass about 8K recording and n... moreDo you know how to read.

                                Hi,

                                Which phone ??? This Honor ... or the next Xiaomi 12 Ultra ???

                                  joe nodden, 25 Apr 2022What do they need the 1150 euro price for. It doesn'... moreI don't give a rat's ass about 8K recording and neither does the majority.

                                    notafanboy, 25 Apr 2022What do you need 8K for?What do they need the 1150 euro price for.

                                    It doesn't matter if people don't "need" 8K. You don't buy a phone this expensive because you want to cheap out and sacrifice things you don't necessarily "need".

                                      Seyed jalal, 24 Apr 2022So expensive because no 8k camera.What do you need 8K for?

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                                        • Hanmilitaryking
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                                        • 25 Apr 2022

                                        Definite the crown of DxOMark, i do need one of this. Great choice photo flagship smart phone.