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joe nodden, 17 Jan 2025Except people did complain about iPhones only offering 12MP... moreWhere did i mention the 12MP cameras in the first place?? I clearly mentioned the 48 MP iPhones as an example because people didn't seem to care lmao.

I doubt offering 12 GB of RAM is actually a flaw, the phone doesn't really need more unless you're doing PC emulation and guess what, flagship smartphones are still not there yet.


What does stabbing someone have to do with this lmao, stabbing someone is illegal and has consequences, none of the examples i mentioned did, even the 8k recording because seemingly only a select few people who are just there to randomly go on the website and find an excuse or the least important flaw of the phone seem to actually care if the phone can record at 8K or not. And let's be honest we know very well those people wouldn't buy those phones anyway.


There's no reason to exclude it at this price point yeah right... Last time i checked if something is this expensive you should at least leave out a few non important things to lower the price tag, like excluding 8k recording! Crazy right?!

    HelioG42069, 05 Jan 2025I literally hate to break it to you and i apologise to do s... moreExcept people did complain about iPhones only offering 12MP sensors for years. I remember years back when companies just started offering 48 MP sensors, there was some blind photo comparison done with the OnePlus 7 Pro versus some iPhone and people picked the OnePlus photos.

    And it being the most expensive phone on the market is a dumb reason? You literally just listed two companies releasing flawed expensive products as a reason to why this company should be able to do the same. "Durrr hurrr, sure I stabbed that guy, but because some other guy also stabbed someone, it's all good!"

    I'm also not gonna say 200MP sensors matter. When it comes to sensors, having a larger sensor matters before having hundreds of megapixels. That's why I'm not complaining about the sensors on this. However, these sensors should be capable of 8K and you gain literally nothing from them failing to support for 8K. It doesn't matter whether or not you specifically think specific individuals are going to use it. There's no reason to exclude it at this price point.

      joe nodden, 04 Jan 2025"No no, you don't get it, 8K is completely useles... moreI literally hate to break it to you and i apologise to do so but 8k is useless at least right now, bringing up filmmakers is stupid because they know better to just use entire kits and actual cameras fit for the job rather than a smartphone and even if this particular smartphone supports 8k, if the camera in it entirety isn't fit for that job then that doesn't mean the phone will simply be better in 20 years when 8k gets better, because the phone will stay the exact same! And the phone having 8k because it's the most expensive phone on the market is a stupid reason, Samsung makes one of the most expensive flagships and yet they offer less memory than their competitors, Apple offers cameras (I know megapixels aren't everything which is exactly the point) are 48MP on their phones instead of quiet literally offering a 200 MP main camera like Xiaomi did with the redmi note 13 pro plus, and guess what, the iPhone is far more expensive! And yet nobody seems to complain because guess what nobody actually needs those features other than a select few people who can just go buy another phone if they think that's the right thing to do.



      And by the way: A shill, is a person who helps a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with said person or organization, or have been paid to do so.

        HelioG42069, 02 Jan 2025After reading the convo I've come to the conclusion th... more"No no, you don't get it, 8K is completely useless, you don't need that on your most expensive non-foldable smartphone on the market!"

        But I'm the shill, right. Do you even get what the word means.

          joe nodden, 01 Jan 2025I'm not repeating the entire argument I had with the o... moreAfter reading the convo I've come to the conclusion that you're the shill here for arguing about how 8k is so important (which by the way it isn't, literally a useless gimmick) and not mentioning other features that used to exist and are now gone lmao

            HelioG42069, 29 Dec 2024Who really shoots at 8k though... Looking at 8K footage on ... moreI'm not repeating the entire argument I had with the other corporate shill. Go read it.

            Hell, you don't even have to read it. The thing you're replying to completely defeats your point. You literally only stand to lose from the 8K support being left out.

              random.username, 27 Dec 2024iPhones cannot record at 8k buddy!! :)) LOLNobody mentioned iPhones buddy!! :)) LOL

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                The lack of Google is either reason to buy or not to buy this phone

                As I am the side which only grudgingly using Google
                Yeah Chinese replacement anytime

                  joe nodden, 25 Dec 2024"Anyone with an IQ above 80 would clearly see my point... moreWho really shoots at 8k though... Looking at 8K footage on a phone is basically useless, 8k monitors cost upwards of more than 1000 American Dollars, Samsung's own 8k TVs cost more than 5000 Dollars without including discounts, and well 8k just takes up so much space...

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                    joe nodden, 25 Dec 2024"Anyone with an IQ above 80 would clearly see my point... moreiPhones cannot record at 8k buddy!! :)) LOL

                      joe nodden, 25 Dec 2024"Anyone with an IQ above 80 would clearly see my point... moreThat's the response I get after a month? 😂 Yeah, right. But fair enough, you're not wrong either. Just don't make such a big deal out of it.

                        David 040882, 28 Nov 2024Ok so let's first talk at the present. "Peopl... more"Anyone with an IQ above 80 would clearly see my points here."

                        Anyone with an IQ above 80 would understand that the most expensive phone on the market shouldn't leave out features as simple as 8K recording, and that even if you specifically don't like shooting in 8K, nobody gains anything from it being left out.

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                          Achined , 06 Dec 2024As long as they do not have Google service right out of the... more& that's the reason I buy Huawei phones for not having google stuff in them...

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                            Achined , 06 Dec 2024As long as they do not have Google service right out of the... moreWell, in the West you mean. In China, which is twice as big as the West, the lack of Google stuff is irrelevant, and it comes with 5.5G.

                              finally! after days of waiting, the processor came out for the specs! does it have balanced cpu like Tensor G4?

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                                As long as they do not have Google service right out of the box and no 5G for the price, Huawei will stay a niche product forever.
                                Hardware wise it is absolutely out of this world.
                                I've had the 40pro+, miles ahead compared to other smartphones

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                                  dananhs, 26 Nov 2024They probably want face unlock to be the main unlock type (... moreTo reiterate, the face lock on a Mate 30 Pro is already so good that I have never used my fingerprint: you just pick up the phone.

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                                    Ayaz, 28 Nov 2024Missing 8k Video recoding 8k is POS on a barely 7" phone screen. Even sony dropped their 4k screen for 1080p flagship because it's pointless & waste of resources.

                                      joe nodden, 28 Nov 2024"How is 8K going to be used in the future? Because 8K ... moreOk so let's first talk at the present.

                                      "People who upload stuff to YouTube, other services, or their NAS, don't need to worry about storage."

                                      They also don't need to worry about 8K videos, especially on a smartphone. If someone wants to post videos on YouTube, for example, then to get the best quality they can they would certainly not film with a smartphone, and if they would, they would in 4K, as 8K is simply not convenient. Hell, even YouTube sees limited use of 8K, hence most videos being in 1080p or 4K. Uploading in 8K offers little tangible benefit to creators when most viewers don't have the screens or bandwith to appreciate it.

                                      "And everything from the early 2000s was either in 480p or 720p. We still view such videos today but find its quality poor. 4K may not be viewed as "poor" quality at any point in the future, but there will come a point where it's preferable to watch content in a higher quality. It may be 40 years from now, but these videos stick around. Stop being stuck in the present."

                                      Comparing the jump from 480p/720p to 1080p to the 4K to 8K jump overlooks the diminishing returns of resolution increases. The perceptual difference between 4K and 8K on common screen sizes (even 80-90" TVs) is minimal for the human eye unless viewed very closely. This is why the adoption of 8K has been very slow, unlike 1080p's or 4K's. Plus, 4K is already considered a golden standard. Professional filmmakers and broadcasters agree that 4K delivers a near-perfect balance of resolution, file size, accessibility, and manageability. Unlike 480p or 720p, 4K won't be seen as poor possibly ever, since the human eye's ability to discern resolution improvements diminishes rapidly beyond this point.

                                      "In low light scenarios, obviously. In the middle of the day outside, that's not an issue. If a phone can shoot in 8K you can shoot at 8K during the day and 4K during the night. If a phone can't shoot in 8K you're stuck with a lower quality in situations where it's beneficial."

                                      Ok, so I suppose physics wasn't your strong subject at school. Smartphone camera sensors are physically very small, and they will stay so for as long as smartphones will exist. Packing in the pixel density required for 8K reduces the size of individual pixels, which directly impacts their ability to capture light and results in higher noise levels. This isn't just a low light issue - dynamic range, color depth, and overall image quality stuffer as well. You can go and check the countless reviews which clearly show that 8K video quality from smartphones isn't nearly as high quality. So focusing on resolution at the expense of sensor quality results in diminished performance overall, regardless of the lighting conditions.

                                      "The quality difference between 8K and 4K smartphone footage on phones that properly support it is undeniable."

                                      On smartphone or laptop screens, the resolution advantage of 8K over 4K is negligible. The difference only becomes apparent on very large displays viewed at close range, a scenario far removed from typical smartphone usage. And again, smartphone lenses, even the high end, are simply not capable of resolving the level of detail 8K theoretically provides. Without larger, more advanced optics, the 8K recording gains are primarily numerical rather than perceptual.

                                      "Different manufacturers have different methods for handling stabilization. Some disable stabilization at higher resolutions altogether. Cameras don't always move when filming though, and, again, stationary shots are crippled by a phone not being able to shoot in 8K."

                                      Seriously? 😂 8K requires a significant amount of computational and sensor resources. And the most straightforward way to achieve stabilization in 8K on a smartphone is by cropping the sensor further , negating the resolution advantage. Disabling stabilization for 8K cand and will render videos shaky and less usable, even in stationary shots where minor movements still occur. Nearly nobody walks around with a tripod for their smartphone to shoot 8K videos, because a large (and most) percentage of smartphone video content is captured in dynamic conditions (walking, travel, events, vlogging). Optimizing for stationary use ignores the majority of real world filming scenarios.

                                      "...8K had the potential to be used in the future.'

                                      While 8K support might expand, the industry hasn't even fully embraced it for televisions. Most users consume content on 4K screens or smaller, and even these displays aren't fully and consistently utilized to their full potential, largely because of streaming compression. And hence, most broadcasters and streaming platforms remain focused on 4K largely because of bandwidth and cost considerations. So adoption of 8K will keep being slow and confined to specific niches. Future potential doesn't justify prioritizing 8K over other more practical improvements such as better low light performance , better dynamic range, and AI-based computational photography, which has just taken off. Those have a greater impact on real world use. Chasing extreme resolutions and pushing 8K on smartphones prioritizes marketing over meaningful innovation; that's very logical. Users will look at 8K and think, "Oh, a big number! It must be good then." Same thing goes with the high res 200MP cameras. They don't necessarily bring better overall detail than 50 or 64MP sensors.

                                      Now, regarding THE FUTURE, sure, advancements will be made, bringing 8K a step closer to being convenient for the regular person. But you can't beat physics, and smartphones will hardly, if ever, have the required sensors/sensor sizes to record 8K videos without major drawbacks. And in the end, neither you nor me can know what the future will bring, so focus on the present, cause that's what matters. Anyone with an IQ above 80 would clearly see my points here. So while I also don't think that it's right for such an expensive smartphone to miss out on premium features that even sub-$1000 phones have, 8K is surely the one feature than nobody will give a rat's ass about, except for you, apparently. I'd much rather have excellent 4K video quality and advancements made to try to perfect 4K videos, rather than 8K. Bigger/more is not always better. Period.

                                        David 040882, 28 Nov 2024How is 8K going to be used in the future? Because 8K is ins... more"How is 8K going to be used in the future? Because 8K is insanely overkill for a smartphone, and it will hardly ever become convenient."

                                        It's not inconvenient to anyone who actually uses their videos instead of letting them sit in their storage doing nothing. People who upload stuff to YouTube, other services, or their NAS, don't need to worry about storage.

                                        And everything from the early 2000s was either in 480p or 720p. We still view such videos today but find its quality poor. 4K may not be viewed as "poor" quality at any point in the future, but there will come a point where it's preferable to watch content in a higher quality. It may be 40 years from now, but these videos stick around. Stop being stuck in the present. This phone is $1800 and it's inexcusable for it to not have top of the line specifications.

                                        "You need a high resolution sensor to film 8K, and cramming so many pixels into such a small smartphone sensor reduces the size of each pixel, which leads to poorer light sensitivity and image quality."

                                        In low light scenarios, obviously. In the middle of the day outside, that's not an issue. If a phone can shoot in 8K you can shoot at 8K during the day and 4K during the night. If a phone can't shoot in 8K you're stuck with a lower quality in situations where it's beneficial. Phones a fraction this price can shoot in 8K.

                                        "Not only that, but the lenses on smartphone cameras are also pretty small and can hardly resolve the fine details required for 8K quality."

                                        The quality difference between 8K and 4K smartphone footage on phones that actually properly support it is undeniable. By your logic, phones shouldn't even have 4K because the difference when jumping from 1440p to 4K on a phone is a smaller difference than jumping from 1440p to 4K on a DSLR (for the same reason.)

                                        "Stabilization in 8K also requires more sensor crop, and that logically reduces the field of view and resolution."

                                        Different manufacturers have different methods for handling stabilization. Some disable stabilization at higher resolutions altogether. Cameras don't always move when filming though, and, again, stationary shots are crippled by a phone not being able to shoot in 8K. When non-$1800 phones can shoot in 8K or 4K if you're that against 8K.

                                        "And then, even if all of these were to be solved, there's very few devices, let alone smartphones that support native 8K playback."

                                        > *Reads that 8K has the potential to be used in the future*
                                        > "B-but, right now there isn't that many devices that benefit from it!"

                                        "I know professional filmmakers which say"

                                        I know countless works by professional filmmakers that use the complete wrong color balance. Countless works by professionals that have various flaws because the person behind the camera thinks their opinion on how the shot should look is right.

                                        Those professional filmmakers you see have never had their works displayed on a 70 foot display if they think 8K is overkill. The wedding videographer or Fiverr videographer you know isn't a "professional filmmaker."

                                        Can't believe you have a camera as a pfp when you're literally arguing that it's okay for manufacturers to cripple the cameras in the most expensive non-foldable on the market. But by all means, drop your money on the phone. Go right ahead. Nobody's stopping you. Me personally, I'll keep calling out manufacturers for pulling these scummy decisions instead of defending them.

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