Samsung Exynos 8 Octa 8890 is official
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AnonD-465175, 13 Nov 2015Now i know that iS-h-e-e-p people who follow apple without ... moreYeah.....and tell me, which smartphones has the X1 made it into????
If you'd read my post adequately you would have noted, that the specifically said 'smartphone' GPU's
Instead you seem to have been so obsessed in trying to sound clever, you've just gone on a little rant without considering what it is you were ranting about.
At 20nm the Tegra X1, power requirements / Thermal properties render it unsuitable for smartphone application.
Maybe you should take your own advice and not chime in on things you haven't quite grasped!!!!
Also, as to your juvenile dig at my being some kind of Apple fanboy, your the one with a nickname that reekes of fanboyism pal! I just like tech, all tech, don't much care who makes it.
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Muthu, 13 Nov 2015Do you mean it can be used in mobiles? If yes, why not even... moreDude im not talking about Nvidia's marketing startegies ...etc im just talking about the level of the performance that 20nm Tegra X1 gives u compared to latest and newest 14/16nm apple A9 chipset. And because you don't want to accept the fact that TX1 is better than A9 u r trying to make excuses :/ that is not good
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AnonD-465175, 13 Nov 2015when Apple talked about a9x i believe never mentioned the w... moreDo you mean it can be used in mobiles? If yes, why not even one manufacturer has used it in an actual mobile for 6 months? Don't tell me it is due to cost. If that is the case, why would nvidia not reduce it, instead of not selling it at all to anyone? It is just a waste of time and money for nvidia, isn't it?
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Muthu, 13 Nov 2015Dude, who told you that Tegra X1 is a mobile chipset? It ne... morewhen Apple talked about a9x i believe never mentioned the word ''tablet chipset'' because it does not exist..... all of those chipsets are called ''Mobile chipset'' or ''Mobile SOC'' Period .
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AnonD-465175, 13 Nov 2015Now i know that iS-h-e-e-p people who follow apple without ... moreDude, who told you that Tegra X1 is a mobile chipset? It never was/is/will be. It is meant for tablets, period.
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Lex79, 13 Nov 2015Your assuming an awful lot there. There is no evidence ... moreNow i know that iS-h-e-e-p people who follow apple without using their brains know nothing about chipsets .. let me start by Tegra X1 (Nvidia's latest mobile chipsets which came out about 6-7 months ago) is made using TSMC's 20nm technology when u compare it with A9 (which is made using samsung's 14nm or TSMC's 16nm,) The A9's GPU is much weaker compared to Nvidia's TX1 GPU ....so we can compare the Exynos 7420 to apple's weak SOC A8 . Conclusion : So we can compare the A9 with Exynos 8890 in the Near Future. it does not matter if they are made using 20nm or 14nm if CPU and/or GPU are Advanced enough they will show their superior performance to other chipsets :) . If you don't know something just don't talk about it.
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Anonymous, 12 Nov 2015Gpu on iphone currently sucks and it powers something over ... moreu dont know what u are talking about..... the off screen test give to us the chance to prove wich card is better than other and apple card proves that is better than currect ones like it or not .....sure sammy s6 has more pixels to run but then is when apple use its brain delivering fast performce and kmeeping things crisp and clear with excellent color reproduction naturals not oversaturated.....now a 720p is good enough as long as u keep above the 300 ppi range..... u wont put your nose on ur phone screen ...most of people now days turn brighness between 50-25 % ......... and this hides a few pixels issues so ...if u matter about gaming make sure to look for a proper device ...like or not iphones will still continue to be better than android ..... in my case i like retro gaming so i took android for that reason ....it has much betetr support .
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- 13 Nov 2015
It appears that Samsung is now making use of the trade secrets that it stole from TSMC. *slow clap* :|
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- 13 Nov 2015
Since Marshmallow is already very good and snappy on even modest hardware, maybe Google should mandate that all Android phones run stock Android - but OEMs are free to add their apps (but not mess around with the actual kernel) for variety.
People will then see they don't need to buy new phones so often, because their current phone will be good for years, along with updates.
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- 13 Nov 2015
Your assuming an awful lot there.
There is no evidence to suggest that doze will offer the same results when applied to Touchwiz (and it's various bespoke features and functions) as we have seen in stock android.
And you have to remember that doze is itself an attempt by Google to get Android to try to replicate the behaviour that has been a part of IOS for a long time. It's not Google jumping ahead, it's them playing catch up.
Now, I have never heard of any heating issue's linked to the A8. However if that was the case, it would likely be down mainly to the flawed 20nm process. Yet due to the more efficient nature of IOS versus Android, and the fact that Apple choose to get better performance by designing wider cores (as opposed to the industry standard method of simply ramping up clock speeds), any such issue's would not have been as readily apparent.
As to your point about it not being fair to compare custom core designs to standard cores, no I wouldn't agree with that. A core is a core, going custom with the design doesn't in and of itself guarantee increased performance/efficiency (though obviously that is the desired effect)
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Lex79, 13 Nov 2015That's weird, the post in which I am referring to has you s... moreThe first part about battery was about the 6s, the second part about gpu was about the 6 (only because the test wasn't repeated for the 6s).
The note5 comes out on top for efficiency (bigger, higher resolution, etc., and still has same endurance rating).
If you think its unfair because of 14nm then you could say its unfair because Samsung wasn't using custom cores, etc. And again, my post wasn't about performance, it was about battery and heat.
What I was saying is that supposed overheating isn't existent, even if the comparison is made with the 6 (perfectly appropriate, 6 month gap), it still means that android phones don't have a big heating issue.
And in regards to battery, not only is android not behind, but they're actually ahead of even the latest release. You have to remember that he is speaking about os, not the device. Which means you have to look at android marshmallow as it came out same time as ios9 in the 6s. If the note5 had doze its rating would blow the 6s away.
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AnonD-463674, 13 Nov 2015u dont need to listen it.you have to experience it Believe me, I did. beyond 1080p there aren't any benefits on a smartphone, only drawbacks. On a tablet - yes, there are benefits.
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AnonD-442781, 13 Nov 2015Those comments were about performance drops (or in other wo... moreThat's weird, the post in which I am referring to has you specifically mentioning the iPhone 6S in your comparison to the Note 5, not the iPhone 6.
But if as you say it was the iPhone 6 (or Plus) you had in mind, then a comparison to the performance of the Note 5 is a little unfair, The iPhone 6/Plus is the better part of a year older than the Note 5, and the A8 is built using the inferior (and flawed) 20nm manufacturing process in comparison to the Exynos 7420.
A comparison between the Note 5 and iPhone 6S series would make more sense, in this case and from multiple performance angles (including efficiency) the A9 in the iPhone is superior.
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Lex79, 13 Nov 2015Again, what are you basing that on??
Higher frame rate d... moreThose comments were about performance drops (or in other words throttling/overheating), not total fps. And they were about the iPhone 6. Gamebench showed how fps changed for actual games, and stability was the around the same.
The battery stuff was from here.
The comment I replied to was talking about heating and efficiency.
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AnonD-183110, 13 Nov 2015Can you tell any benefits or not ? :/u dont need to listen it.you have to experience it
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AnonD-442781, 13 Nov 2015The note5 and iPhone 6s plus have the similar sized battery... moreAgain, what are you basing that on??
Higher frame rate drops in iPhones???
Performance parity between GPU's???
Most benchmarks show a definite edge in performance in GPU performance (both on screen and off) for the iPhone 6S Plus over the Note 5.
Not trying to be funny or anything, but if you are going to make those comments, I 'd be interested in where you are getting the information.
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IT consultant, 13 Nov 2015many fools commentators with little knowlegdge of IT like t... moreThe note5 and iPhone 6s plus have the similar sized battery and the same endurance rating. Once the note5 gets doze from marshmallow it will be better. This is despite the note5 having a bigger screen.
From GPU benchmarks stability is about the same too, slightly lower due to more pixels (but for some reason iphones have bigger drops in fps).
Some IT consultant you are.
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Anonymous, 13 Nov 2015oh really? so movies are recorded at 1080p? interesting..Can you tell any benefits or not ? :/
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Arif238, 13 Nov 2015Which GPU is better Adreno 330 in SD 801 or Adreno 418 in S... moreAll things being equal the 418 is supposed to be 20% faster than the 330. And the 420 is 40% faster than the 330.
So the Adreno 420 is overall the strongest of the 3, however it's only available in the Snapdragon 805, which to date has only been used in two smartphones (not sure if it made it's way into any tablets), the Nexus 6 and the Note 4 (well one variant of it anyway), and doesn't look as though its going to be utilised in any further devices anytime soon.
Also, though I really wouldn't recommend doing so, if you were to pick up a smartphone in the view of looking to get the best GPU of these 3, bear in mind that the Snapdragon 805 & 801 can be considered outdated now due to them running on the old Armv7 32-bit architecture.
Personally, of these three, I would go for a device running the Snapdragon 808, it performed just fine on the LG G4 I was using until very recently .
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Anonymous, 12 Nov 2015Gpu on iphone currently sucks and it powers something over ... moreThe sheer lack of knowledge you have just displayed is incredible!
The PowerVR GT-7600 in the iPhone 6S is the current record holder as far as smartphone GPu's are concerned in the GFXBenchmark 'Manhattan' off screen test, this test uses a standard virtual resolution (it's off screen remember) of 1080p, and the iPhone 6S scores an average of 39.5fps. The Galaxy S6 however in this same test scores 24fps, and remember resolution is done virtually (off screen) on both at 1080p.
Yes the Galaxy S6 scores higher than the iPhone 6 (as that is what you specifically referred to in your post), but that was released in 2014, the 6S is the latest iPhone and more of a direct competitor to the Galaxy S6.
If you require further proof of just how good the A9 is as an overall SOC, then I gladly refer you to the recent review run by Anandech:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9686/the-apple-iphone-6s-and-iphone-6s-plus-review
Pay close attention to the verdict regarding the A9 in particular, it's something along the lines of "the A9 is the best SOC in a Smartphone to date".
And I for one am inclined to believe the guys at Anandtech over the vast majority numpty's that post on these forums!