Flash Player 10.1 for Android now in private beta, sign up for a spin

19 April, 2010
Apple doesn't want it, but Android is about to embrace it - Flash Player 10.1 for Android is in private beta and a public beta is coming soon. The Open Screen Project is about to deliver and enable the full Web...

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  • 27 Apr 2010

Hi there i hope that this flash player is compatible with the x10

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    • Anonymous
    • pqB
    • 21 Apr 2010

    Anonymous, 21 Apr 2010From the link at the bottom of the LAME page:- "Man... moreBasically lame is a free open source encoder/decoder no and has never been questioned by fraunhoffner or anyone else.

    H264 is not open source and MPEG-LA made it clearly it won't be free for open source or free apps the way mp3 is.

    Hence Steve Jobs's hate towards google and flash who threaten to overrun H264 performance before apple even sees a dime out of it.

    You always read but somehow you don't manage to understand.
    Must be a cerebral disfunction of some sort ;)

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      • Black Bird
      • s8a
      • 21 Apr 2010

      Anonymous, 20 Apr 2010You don't have full flash support if you can access Hulu it... moreNope man. You are wrong. It works. . .i guarantee you. Try it yourself then see. It has full flash and java support. Something very rare in phones.

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        • Anonymous
        • P%n
        • 21 Apr 2010

        Anonymous, 21 Apr 2010MP3, free since 1998 http://lame.sourceforge.net/ Get... moreFrom the link at the bottom of the LAME page:-

        "Many people think that the MP3 standard is free and open, and that the ISO reference source code is also. But in the beginning of September 98, Fraunhofer Institute, largely involved in the development of MPEG-audio compression, has sent a letter to several developers of "free" ISO-source based encoders. In this letter they make it very clear that all developers and publishers of MPEG-audio layer 3 (MP3) encoders based on ISO-source must pay a license fee to Fraunhofer. So, what is the real situation of MP3?
        First of all, a few word about how MPEG development is done. MPEG development is almost open. You can join the MPEG development group by asking your local MPEG contact. So a lot of people are working on the development of each MPEG standard. But they are all working for companies paying them. It is because this kind of algorithmic research needs a high level of knowledge and a lot of time (in most of the cases it is a full-time job). So the work done by those people is property of their respective employers.
        When an MPEG format is approved by ISO, it contains several parts. It defines the bitstream syntax that must be used to be compliant, operations done by the decoder, and it provides an informative only source code for encoding and decoding, which is freely available. But this source code is purely indicative, as MPEG never defines any encoding rule.
        The Fraunhofer Institute has been the main developer of MPEG audio Layer-3, and the MP3 standard that has been approved is mainly based on their work, which Fraunhofer has protected by several patents. They decided to join their patents with those of Thomson Multimedia (also known as RCA) in order to create a joint patents portfolio, and to ask royalties for the use of this portfolio.
        They now control a portfolio of 18 patents related to MP3, and one for Mp3Pro. This portfolio is very extensive, and cover various aspects of MP3 encoding. Some of those patents could be avoided in an MP3 implementation by either not using several features of the standard, or by using different algorithms than those specified. But what is important is that there are some of those patents that you will not be able to avoid, so practically it means that you can not use any MP3 implementation without using some parts of those patents.
        You also have to remember that this portfolio is only the one of Fraunhofer and Thomson Multimedia. Some other companies could have some patents also covering parts of MP3. As an exemple, it's very likely that AT&T has such patents. Those companies might decide to ask for royalties in the future, but the MP3 standard is established since 1992, and no one except Fraunhofer/Thomson Multimedia asked for fees.
        As fees could change, you should consult Mp3licensing.com for official up to date prices.
        Before closing this page, I would like to apologize to both my readers and Thomson Multimedia for having kept this article not up to date (and so innacurate) during a long period due to a lack of time.
        © 1998-2002 Gabriel Bouvigne for MP3'Tech - www.mp3-tech.org"

        Source:-
        http://www.mp3-tech.org/

        Patents:-
        http://www.mp3licensing.com/patents/index.html

        So as there are fees involved in MP3 why aren't users charged per minute as you seem to think is going to happen with MP4?

        Besides which Adobe using h.264 in Flash video playback will be subject to exactly the same fees, as will most HD video including BluRay.

        Basically your argument is full of crap.

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          • Anonymous
          • pqB
          • 21 Apr 2010

          Anonymous, 21 Apr 2010Many organizations have claimed ownership of patents relate... moreMP3, free since 1998

          http://lame.sourceforge.net/

          Get your facts straight.

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            • Anonymous
            • vaH
            • 21 Apr 2010

            Anonymous, 21 Apr 2010It's in no way same as MP3. ever heard of lame? Free to use... moreMany organizations have claimed ownership of patents related to MP3 decoding or encoding. These claims have led to a number of legal threats and actions from a variety of sources, resulting in uncertainty about which patents must be licensed in order to create MP3 products without committing patent infringement in countries that allow software patents.

            The various MP3-related patents expire on dates ranging from 2007 to 2017 in the U.S.[36] The initial near-complete MPEG-1 standard (parts 1, 2 and 3) was publicly available in December 6, 1991 as ISO CD 11172.[37][38] In the United States, patents cannot claim inventions that were already publicly disclosed more than a year prior to the filing date, but for patents filed prior to June 8, 1995, submarine patents made it possible to extend the effective lifetime of a patent through application extensions. Patents filed for anything disclosed in ISO CD 11172 a year or more after its publication are questionable; if only the known MP3 patents filed by December 1992 are considered, then MP3 decoding may be patent free in the US by December 2012.[39]

            Thomson Consumer Electronics claims to control MP3 licensing of the Layer 3 patents in many countries, including the United States, Japan, Canada and EU countries.[40] Thomson has been actively enforcing these patents.[citation needed]

            MP3 license revenues generated about €100 million for the Fraunhofer Society in 2005.[41]

            In September 1998, the Fraunhofer Institute sent a letter to several developers of MP3 software stating that a license was required to "distribute and/or sell decoders and/or encoders". The letter claimed that unlicensed products "infringe the patent rights of Fraunhofer and Thomson. To make, sell and/or distribute products using the [MPEG Layer-3] standard and thus our patents, you need to obtain a license under these patents from us."

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              • Anonymous
              • vaH
              • 21 Apr 2010

              Anonymous, 21 Apr 2010It's in no way same as MP3. ever heard of lame? Free to use... moreWhat's h.265?

              Have you invented a new one?

              Mp3 is licensed manufacturers have to pay a licensing fee, just like mpeg4 OR h.264.

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                • Anonymous
                • pqB
                • 21 Apr 2010

                Anonymous, 21 Apr 2010Are you trying to refer to Ogg Theora? It is crap it sta... moreIt's in no way same as MP3. ever heard of lame? Free to use free to encode.

                HTML5 + H265 streaming requires a much more computing power and would drain batteries much faster than flash: http://goo.gl/MLTW

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                  • Anonymous
                  • vaH
                  • 21 Apr 2010

                  Anonymous, 21 Apr 2010I don't care.. Google Squishy One is hot!It looks like that because it just got steamrolled by the iPhone, Apple just announced last quarter sales of 8.75 million iPhones.

                  58% outside the US.

                  Paw widdle Andwoid did da big bad Apple CRUSH you again?

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                    • Anonymous
                    • M8T
                    • 21 Apr 2010

                    I don't care.. Google Squishy One is hot!

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                      • Deep space bar
                      • kDi
                      • 21 Apr 2010

                      Anonymous, 20 Apr 2010So you noticed Deep Space Bar but you didn't notice Steve's... moreApple is doing the same thing with html5 as the same as the iad crap

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                        • Anonymous
                        • vaH
                        • 21 Apr 2010

                        Anonymous, 20 Apr 2010And did you know that the formats suported by HTML5 are onl... moreAre you trying to refer to Ogg Theora?

                        It is crap it stands as much chance of taking over as Ogg Vobis taking over from MP3.

                        Google hasn't developed anything they bought a company that developed V8 another codec, they haven't announced what they plan to do with it.

                        Flash is a plug in not a codec, it is crap Adobe can't get 10.1 to work efficiently on phones, that's why it's taking so long to release it.

                        The video of a nexus running a Flash demonstration uses 50% of it's battery in 6 minutes, that's how crap it is and is why Adobe is still not releasing it.

                        H.264 is just like MP3 as regards licence fees.

                        Can you provide a link to this $20 software to make Flash content?

                        H.264 is created for free whenever you use most video cameras including the ones in phones, you think people who upload videos to YouTube have to buy special software to convert it?

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                          • Anonymous
                          • 01A
                          • 21 Apr 2010

                          Anonymous, 20 Apr 2010How are they going to collect this "per minute" p... moreI mean how can you even be so naive?

                          HTML5 is a standard, it won't support more than two codecs, it says everywhere!

                          Also it's suppoesed to last years, do you even think nothing will surpass H264 in years?

                          The future's obvious my friend, by 2022 H264 will be heavily outdated and all streaming services will use flash with the new codec flash will be able to play.

                          And here you might add "but html5 will play it!"
                          -no, if things were that way HTML4 would play H264;)

                          Your logic FAILS!

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                            • Anonymous
                            • 01A
                            • 20 Apr 2010

                            Anonymous, 20 Apr 2010How are they going to collect this "per minute" p... moreAnd did you know that the formats suported by HTML5 are only H264 and some ogg thingy competitor?

                            Did you know that the freeware codec developed by google that is twice more efficient than H264 might only run in a flash player?

                            AMAZING! not Steve Jobs's hatred for two apparently not connected companies ties up :)

                            And hence you have Google + Adobe = free web + no multimedia content on the iPhone :)))

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                              • Anonymous
                              • pqB
                              • 20 Apr 2010

                              Anonymous, 20 Apr 2010How are they going to collect this "per minute" p... moreNo flash is not open source and a program to develop flash costs as low as 20$

                              Coding software for H264 costs starting 79.99.

                              What, haven't you heard of pay-per-view?

                              Stay gilled they figure a way to get thos 5 million dolars out of users since ads alone sure won't cut it.

                              And adobe ignored mac for a right reason 4.5% world share, might aswell be 0 ;)

                              And I'd rather pay to adobe if I have to than to apple and microsoft

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                                • Anonymous
                                • P%n
                                • 20 Apr 2010

                                H264 Vs. Flash, 20 Apr 2010Q: What is H264? A: a high efficiency codec (size/quality)... moreHow are they going to collect this "per minute" payment?

                                Hey maybe they'll make you sit through an Ad before the clip you want starts...

                                ...oh, hang on Flash already does that.

                                Does Adobe pay you to tout this FUD?

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • P%n
                                  • 20 Apr 2010

                                  Black Bird, 20 Apr 2010Look kid, i'm not comparing between symbian and android. Al... moreYou don't have full flash support if you can access Hulu it won't work, it's based on ActionScript 3 (like all modern Flash, not ActionScript 2 like older content).

                                  Adobeis full of lies, they don't want to LOSE CONTROL of the Internet.

                                  Flash is not Open Source you need to buy software (which costs thousands) to create it, you need Adobe made plug ins to play it back.

                                  Adobe ignored Mac (and Linux) and focussed only on the Windows platform.

                                  Now they are running scared because it's payback time so they pay people to run around spreading false information.

                                  Like "Apple won't let us put Flash on iPhone's", even if Apple "let them", they can't anyway because IT DOESN'T EXIST YET>

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • P%n
                                    • 20 Apr 2010

                                    Anonymous, 20 Apr 2010So you noticed Deep Space Bar but you didn't notice Steve's... moreh.264 has nothing whatsoever to do with html5.

                                    It's the same as html and .jpg, .gif, png etc.

                                    html is what webpages are made of and content of different types can be embedded.

                                    BluRay uses h.264 almost all HD video does.

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                                      • ADRINA MARQUES BRAZI
                                      • Pf8
                                      • 20 Apr 2010

                                      vai tomar no

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • 2Z6
                                        • 20 Apr 2010

                                        This is not forum for this question but still feel like asking - Does Android Eclair (2.1) have a J2ME app native support?