Galaxy S7 and S7 edge found to sport Sony IMX260 camera sensor, custom audio chip
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Anonymous, 23 Feb 2016Sony XBA-H3 for earbuds, MDR-V6 for cans. My Z will at time... moreI don't get why you would not trust GSMarenas tests. Most reviews I read, and Im pretty sure that was true for the S6 review as well, mention, the low volume of the headphone output.
I have a Samsung K Zoom, on that one they mentioned that the volume was above average. And it does give me more volume with my headphones than my Sony Z3 does.
I've now gotten a creative E3 USB/Dac with bluetooth. Although dissapointingly noisy both in bluetooth mode and in headphone amp mode. It does however a good job as a DAC. It works as a USB DAC with both my Samsung and my Sony. Here however the Sony has an advantage, because by some reason the volume control of my K Zoom locks to the volume control of the E3. And I actually get about the same volume from the E3 connected to the K Zoom as with the headphones connected to the device. But with the Z3 I can use the volume control to get higher volume leves.
I don't know how the E3 would perform with a S6 or S7, as the software is different.
There should be other DACs that would work with mobiles. I think HRTs products does.
My Audio Pro wireless speaker sender works with both devices.
My NuForce uDac2 does not. My Hegel Super does not.
If you want good audio from your android phone, an external dac is probably your best option. But keep in mind that if your headphones are a headset, they will not work as headset through a USB-dac.
You could get yourself a Bluetooth earpiece so that when a call comes, you can just take of your headphones, and answer on that Bluetooth headset, to transfer the audio to that one instead.
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AnonD-352484, 22 Feb 2016Small sensor size, smaller pixel size than the competition,... moreYou are wrong about the pixel size. Pretty much every competitor has smaller pixels, perhaps even every single competitor. Unless you count old devices, with older pixel tech, and then you cant be to sure that the pixels would perform any better anyhow.
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AnonD-352484, 22 Feb 2016Small sensor size, smaller pixel size than the competition,... moreDont spread aperture confusion even more. Your comment lacks some information, on what situations the aperture number can't be compared.
f1.7 is f1.7.
If you look a the center square millimeter, it would capture more light compared to the old sensor, so the aperture is bigger in that regard (we dont know how well it pefromance throughout the optics, so it might perform better at other areas as well).
But if you look at how much light will hit the complete sensor, that is a different matter. In that regard you are correct. That f1.7 optics, would not be the same as fitting a f1.7 optics, on a bigger sensor, since this sensor has less surface area.
But since the pixel size and tech is different, you can't compare them anyway. That misstake is made over and over in comment threads on camera sites even.
Pixel tech and processing is very relevant, when it comes to light capturing, how much light that hits the sensor is really irrelevant, it is how you can make use of it, that matters (and in that regard, smaller pixels can sometimes outperform bigger pixels, if pixel tech and processing is better, but then mostly, the difference is size of the pixels is quite small).
I think there was a comment in one of the articles that 25% more light would hit the sensor. I dont know exactly how they phrased it, but if it was like that, it would be an incorrect statement. As the old sensor had a bigger surface area.
If you are talking background separation, you are again correct, f1.7 on a smaller sensor, will not be the same as f1.7 on a bigger sensor.
But then on mobiles, you hardly get any background separation. Not for anyting but extreme closeups.
In this regard sensor tech and pixel size would be irrelevant, but that is not really what the f-number indicate. That effect is also effected by the blade system used (mobiles doesnt have them, as they only have one aperture setting, with a very few exceptions).
If you are talking to those that would be impressed by the f-number, most people have no idea what that number means. And those that know, would probably not think, how did they fit that big aperture on a device that thin.
The thickness mreassurement is as far as I know not made on the thickest point (the camera hump), so i believe that the S7 is still thinner at the thickest point compared to the S6.
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Anonymous, 23 Feb 2016Your mistrust then, it follows, must also be applied to app... moreMy 'trust' in Sony products comes from experience over said two decades. Because of this I've always known what to expect from a Sony product and they have lived up to my expectations. Not perfect, but good enough. I only decided to jump ship because the Z5 generation had the 810 processor, which we all know has heat issues. Additionally, I consulted the reviews (here and elsewhere too) for the S6 only because my experience with Samsung (smartphones) has been limited.
I've owned the SGH-D600, SGH-E640, and SGH-F300 being my last Samsung phone around a decade ago. The F300 was a dual-faced music phone that came out as the first gen iPhone was being released. The F300 was absolutely dismal with its audio performance, despite being music-orientated and having a specially-designed audio-amp which was more brand-name and less functionality. That forced me to my first Sony branded PHONE (starting with the W200, C702, W980, LT18 and the Z until recently).
A few months back I tried out a relative's GT-I5500. A really REALLY basic Samsung smartphone that's a few years old now. I was relatively happy with the audio quality despite it's basic specs. That perked my interest, I searched up the S6 reviews, it had fantastic reviews in the audio department, and I took a risk and bought one. And here we are today.
Don't get me wrong the S6 is a whole new level with the screen (the Z was one of the first FullHD displays at the time but had poor display angles); the S6 beats the Z hands-down with colours and display angles and is a pleasure to look at. Camera is also a lot better (start-up times most notable). My only complaint was the audio quality, and that still stands. I am now waiting for the Marshmallow update hoping that rectifies my complaint. If anything the 5.0 to 5.1 update improved the issue ever-so-slightly.
So you're assumptions in all aspects are incorrect. As a owner of various Samsung products in my years (most notable being the YP-T8 and YP-D1 audio players, which I still have and still work fantastically), I'm a gadget user who reads opinions and reviews to make the best informed decisions to fulfil a personal need. Unfortunately today there is this near-blind brand loyalty which needless to say opens up the floor to cynicism and more bluntly, fanboy-ism, which I am happy to say am not part of.
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Anonymous, 22 Feb 2016Recently moved over from a Sony Z (ie, the one from 2013), ... moreYour mistrust then, it follows, must also be applied to apple and sony reviews as well, if you are to obtain credability for not being, purely a samsung sales obstructer.
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Anonymous, 22 Feb 2016The level of intelligence on this site just gets worse each... moreAha, i guess you are the smart one, right? Go and read a book on optics, and what happensif the lens is to thin...
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Where is that rumoured ESS chip gone?
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Anonymous, 22 Feb 2016Snapdragon has strengths in comparison but is not bettercan you justify ?
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Chuck Norris, 23 Feb 2016what the hell are you guys talking about... Z5 has the best... moreCheck out your facts.
Z5 had the best camera tested by DXO , but not the only one on the first place.
Samsung camera was also on the first place. Right?
But now is new camera .
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AnonD-506180, 23 Feb 2016You grab the laughter when you see what makes Sammy boy ...:))))You are completely right..:))))
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Chuck Norris, 23 Feb 2016what the hell are you guys talking about... Z5 has the best... moreSylvester Stallone....I think...I see you now, Chuck Norris ..run..run.........you are right, in connection with the room, but partially. There are others camera as good.
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The same error Samsung. Will have a big problem with covering the costs of production. Who invented this phone leave want to have problems, it is firm..:)))
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eMb, 22 Feb 2016Normally CS* named chips were from Cirrus Logic. Apple uses... moreExactly what i thought. Sammy doesn't have any experience in making their own DAC, let alone for a smartphone.
This "custom" chip they were talking might just be a Cirrus Logic DAC with a tuned sound characteristics or specs to match Samsung's preferences. Since previous Wolfsons were just so bad it sounds like a raw untuned DAC.
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what the hell are you guys talking about... Z5 has the best camera tested by DXO... and it is still the king for now...
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mir, 23 Feb 2016He's right. No matter what the amount of the megapixels, if... moreNo he isn't. Who said anything about mega pixels? Image quality is all down to image processing. If it was as easy as lens then Samsung wouldn't be always dominating if it was that easy. LG is also mastering image processing
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G5 user, 22 Feb 2016good for sammy lovers across the world that they will get s... moreoaky...so you're posting that here why????!! Samsung actually got a new sensor this year whereas LG stuck with the same one from the V10 and G4..if you love the G5 fine..but go and comment on a G5 article where people actually give a shit
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mir, 22 Feb 2016What headphones were you using?Sony XBA-H3 for earbuds, MDR-V6 for cans. My Z will at times struggle to drive the V6 but at least the volume is consistent...
Granted I may be slightly biased towards Sony's audio signature, having used their audio products for over 20 years. I'm after a completely neutral audio output and while the S6 delivers frequency-wise, the S6 is not consistent volume-wise; the amp is indeed lacking like I have experienced with past Samsungs and with the S6 today.
Sony's in that regard have all been fine, and the reason why I continued using them until I decided to try the modern-day Samsung train...
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Anonymous, 22 Feb 2016The level of intelligence on this site just gets worse each... moreHe's right. No matter what the amount of the megapixels, if the lens quality is not up to par then the detail will not be properly resolved. Hence, the need for a huge amount of correction from image processing.
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You grab the laughter when you see what makes Sammy boy ...:))))
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Anonymous, 22 Feb 2016The level of intelligence on this site just gets worse each... moreSpeaking of intelligence, both of you are right and wrong the same time because it's kinda both. The lens is worse, so the post processing has to be better to give the same result, we actually don't know if it's better or worse. Some of the bad spots on z3 or z5 photos clearly come from massive lens corrections. Some not necessarily. So maybe it's a combination of both that yes, what we see as "wrong" comes from the post processing of the picture, but that's caused by the lens