Samsung's Q3 results: Mobile profits down over 95% due to Galaxy Note7 debacle

27 October 2016
The company is expecting that the year-end peak season and the Galaxy S7 and S7 edge smartphones will help it achieve comparable YOY earnings in Q4.

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  • 02 Nov 2016

Anonymous, 29 Oct 201696% down? If I'm not wrong, that means they have almost not... moreYou misunderstand. 96% Year on year this quarter. This quarter last year they made 96% more profit. This doesn't mean they lost money, just didn't make as much

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    • Anonymous
    • 3SI
    • 29 Oct 2016

    96% down? If I'm not wrong, that means they have almost nothing left

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      • Mkdc
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      • 29 Oct 2016

      viveksubhash, 27 Oct 2016oh i was as anti samsung as you...but 2016 came i wanted an... moreAwesome reply! I absolutely respect your choice because of all phones, the s7 edge was the perfect fit for you, which is not for me but i won't force my opinions down your throat like what a typical fanboy would do.

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        • Anonymous
        • 4$v
        • 28 Oct 2016

        Anonymous, 28 Oct 2016If you take out apples 500m Italian tax fraud,their 150m eb... moreThen you would have to take out Samsung's multiple price rigging scandals, tax evasion in their own country and the hundreds of millions they have to pay Apple for copying to get a similar comparison going.

        It's anybody's guess what will happen with the courts about the employees who died from cancer at their factories because of inadequate safety gear. Or the next price rigging scandal to hit. It seems like they have a be every year. I wonder what they are price rigging now.

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          • Anonymous
          • 39x
          • 28 Oct 2016

          If you take out apples 500m Italian tax fraud,their 150m ebook price rigging corruotion and their 13billion Irish tax fiasco debarcle how do thier proffits look ?

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            • AnonD-598677
            • RIE
            • 28 Oct 2016

            impossible for profits down, so far as i know samsung is big company, mobile division just part of it,every month have new release either its same spec in difference design with good good price. Somehow samsung got patent, insurans, software,can say a city. dont worry do new design , throw the old legacy design, people might forget it. but with google pixel around i might switch to pixel if samsung continued with odd design( like a hospital gadget or 1990 gadget for daily use, now it might look good but in 2020, omg dunno what to say) i always support samsung but nothing last forever

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              • 28 Oct 2016

              Anonymous, 28 Oct 2016what are the hassle all about ?? why cant we wait for th... moreNo hassle. I just don't like being accused of saying things I didn't. That's all.

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                • Anonymous
                • EYb
                • 28 Oct 2016

                AnonD-196068, 27 Oct 2016Just because it is not the battery does not say what it is ... morewhat are the hassle all about ??

                why cant we wait for the outcome of the investigation ????

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                  • Anonymous
                  • IV$
                  • 28 Oct 2016

                  how come profit can down ... they release new phone every month or 2 weeks ... i thought people still buy it ... (choice they said)

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                    • Anonymous
                    • IVS
                    • 28 Oct 2016

                    AnonD-457505, 27 Oct 2016Part of problem is Samsung's own doing. It used to make ph... moreSamsung still investigate the Note 7 catching fire issue and Samsung never get any clue yet, you can't blame to the sealed battery, because many Samsung's phones use the sealed battery are never catching fire or explode. So please wait the Samsung official announce the investigation result of Note 7 catching fire and explode.

                      Mkdc, 27 Oct 2016It's simple.. people have invested in the samsung galaxy br... moreoh i was as anti samsung as you...but 2016 came i wanted an android flagship(cos you know...broken phone..hehe) at the time i was buying(i used a zenfone 2 btw) the phones out were..lg g4, xperia x/z5, iphone 6 series, and the s7 series..i went with the edge because of the larger display..having been accustomed to a zenfone 2 and a zenfone 6 before..i was skeptical at first, but i have become a samsung fan officially...not a fanboy, i'll still criticize them over touchwiz and ram management..but the phone is awesome, having a dual edge is a ballsy move..it makes for a difficult grip but an infinity illusion on the display

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                        • 27 Oct 2016

                        AnonD-424566, 27 Oct 2016What? And that makes things better, it's just been on CNN ... moreJust because it is not the battery does not say what it is does it! Did I ever say it did? Please point to the precise sentence where I did. They openly admitted that they swapped out with different batteries and the problem remained. Hence why they cancelled it, as at that point they did not know what it was and realised there was no quick fix any more. The credibility was gone and nothing was going to get it back either. So while that tells us it was most probably not the battery, it does not tell us the root cause either. And please explain how the battery being removable would have changed the fact they blow up and most proably not the result of them being faulty either? The second recall proved that much in all probabilty but it does not tell us the root cause and there is a good chance we will never know either.

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                          • kDA
                          • 27 Oct 2016

                          ChiL, 27 Oct 2016Its really quite sad to hear that SAMSUNG has this bad run ... morePart of problem is Samsung's own doing. It used to make phones with removable batteries up to Note 4. Then it went to unibody design with sealed in batteries, asking for trouble if there was thermal issues (as happened in Note 7). Too bad Samsung executives didn't have foresight to preserve removable batteries for it's flagship Note 7. If it did, then all they had to do was ship new batteries to customers instead of recall and all the tremendous hassle of having it's phones being banned on airlines!!

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                            • AnonD-5197
                            • sfN
                            • 27 Oct 2016

                            Good time to buy their stocks. Probably so cheap.

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                              • 27 Oct 2016

                              Note7 owner, 27 Oct 2016This is just the beginning of bad news for Shamsung. And i feel so Sorry(Sony) about them like nothing.

                                This is just the beginning of bad news for Shamsung.

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • B46
                                  • 27 Oct 2016

                                  AnonD-103428, 27 Oct 2016The loss projected is too much and samsung is doing it to e... moreNot sure how the tax law works in Korea but in most jurisdictions, provision of losses are not tax deductible. It will only be deducted when it actually occur. What they have done here is to create a deferred tax asset, which they could potentially claim in the future, if the expense does occur. Hence, say without this provision, had they earned $8 billion in profit, they are still liable to profit on the $8 billion with no deduction on the provision.

                                  Cheers.

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • B46
                                    • 27 Oct 2016

                                    AnonD-434953, 27 Oct 2016amazing...for a company so big...only one phone's problem b... moreIts accounting profit, they provide for the future expenses to be incurred which (not limiting to) are shipment cost, legal cost, compensation cost, compensation to suppliers etc. They already mentioned it will cost $5 billion in quarters to come. As accounting standards have criteria to how much they can provide, they have only provided those that are in material aspect, likely to happen. These are effectively one off expense, it certainly wouldnt bankrupt Samsung, the fact that its whole electronics company still earning $5billion for the quarter net of the provision. The same would have been for Apple if they were to provide $5 billion for such one off expense and the worse would happen to the likes of Sony and HTC, which could techinically bankrupt them.

                                    Hope you understand how numbers are crunched and accounted
                                    Peace out

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                                      • 27 Oct 2016

                                      kirara, 27 Oct 2016Just a heads up! Pluto is just a planet.Dwarf planet

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                                        • 27 Oct 2016

                                        Anonymous, 27 Oct 2016I can't possibly understand how can people still buy a Sams... moreIt's simple.. people have invested in the samsung galaxy brand emotionally and won't abandon unless they get a phone exploded in their hands. Just like how anti-samsung i am, i will never buy/own a samsung smartphone until no other android oems exist, unless for some reasons, i get one for free, i might use it or sell it..