This holiday season was not that happy for Nokia, nor was the year

27 January, 2011
Nokia has had a tough 2010, which proved worse than even the recession-bound 2009. The phones volumes and their prices have fallen but Nokia estimates it has taken the lead in the QWERTY...

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  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 28 Jan 2011Seriously? LOL USB host controllers are drivers by the OS genius... moreWho cares man, stop discussing about such useless things.

  • Anonymous

TSH, 28 Jan 2011Sorry mate, but you're wrong about USB hardware. Look in your PC... moreSeriously? LOL USB host controllers are drivers by the OS genius. Without drivers said host controllers would not appear, and would not function. Obviously you failed to look at the newer post in which i post links referencing the standard from USB organization itself and how USB OTG was invented as a supplement to allow mainly dumb devices to download data to host and vice versa. Good day.

  • dion

i don't want to buy a nokia phone. It is expensive on the first day, but after a day or two the price will go down. I need a phone with a stable price like android phones. If you want to sell the phone it is still on high value. Unlke nokia, once you sell the price will go down to 40%.

  • GrainySnapshot

Some guy from Greece, 28 Jan 2011"(2) Nokia releases more new models more frequently than an... moreThank you for clarifying that. In fact, LG and Motorola also beat Nokia on this score so I completely withdraw the statement that Nokia releases more phones than anyone. I think Nokia still beats Sony Ericsson, HTC and of course Apple on this point. Samsung also releases a number for phones only for specific markets which perhaps makes it easier to avoid a perception of delay. I take back the suggestion that Nokia is the overall leader on time to market but I do maintain they have a better record than a few high profile delays would suggest.

  • akash from nepal

india no.1 must trusted brand is nokia over 100 product brand like yamaha,toyota,etc why?because if your handsets bluettoth isn't getting on they give you the new one & iphone antenna fail they didn't give you the new one because you are a biggest lol!

  • Some guy from Greece

GrainySnapshot, 28 Jan 2011Point by point. (1) The game is not over on US carriers. If Nok... more"(2) Nokia releases more new models more frequently than anyone else. At the cutting edge they have delays but not on average. The white iPhone is months behind its announcement. "

I believe Samsung got that title for 2010. I got 98 results on gsma's search engine for Samsung and 24 for Nokia.

  • Anonymous

android is the futur, 28 Jan 2011please nokia use android before it is too late,be brave like sam... moreBe brave is doing it's own OS and not surrender to a overated OS that the company got no complete control. Sony was cow*ard and just surrended to Android, while Samsung at least is doing it own Bada OS.

  • Some guy from Greece

Anonymous, 28 Jan 2011nokia fans post 10,000 comments on nokia;s article where as the ... moreBrand's doing poorly?
It does? With 73% increased anual operating profit?

  • android is the futur

please nokia use android before it is too late,be brave like samsung and sony and leave symbian for good.

  • GrainySnapshot

Anonymous, 27 Jan 2011It is not that they haven't cracked the US market, its the fact ... morePoint by point. (1) The game is not over on US carriers. If Nokia gets the right product the carriers will want it. (2) Nokia releases more new models more frequently than anyone else. At the cutting edge they have delays but not on average. The white iPhone is months behind its announcement. (3) Most readers will understand the point of the "apples and oranges" comparison but you are quite free to label it "stupid and idiotic" if you think that assists the discussion. Personally, I think it is valuable to look at these issues from multiple angles. If as you say the "whole point" is to engage in a lifetime comparison of specific models, Apple will always win and the discussion is over from your point of view and anyone else can have a discussion on whatever terms they freely choose (subject to compliance with gsmarena's rules as to politeness). (4) A few years ago, Nokia had zero qwerty slider phones. Zero. Now they have 9 on the market and two in the wings. Nokia estimates they are the market leader in this area. Even if you think Nokia's estimate is wrong, in this market area Nokia has gone from having zero market presence to having very significant sales. If I were a Nokia fan boy I would say that Nokia is now absolutely killing Apple in this part of the market. (5) It might assist the discussion if you identify exactly which standard you are applying when you say that Nokia is "failing". Nokia is the biggest vendor of mobile phones internationally. Not failing there. Nokia is massively profitably. Not failing there. Nokia is the market leader in some product sectors. Not failing there. Nokia is the technological leader in some features (specifically the best camera and best FM transmitter, both features Apple chooses not to offer). Not failing there. Nokia is more profitable than most other phone manufacturers. Not failing there. Nokia is not anything like close to insolvent. Not failing there. Nokia has not managed to achieve the profitability it hoped to across its entire business. Okay, that is a failure but let us be clear about just what the failure is and what its real significance is. Rumours of Nokia's death are exaggerated.

  • Anonymous

nokia fans post 10,000 comments on nokia;s article where as the brand is doing poorly

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 27 Jan 2011It is not that they haven't cracked the US market, its the fact ... morec5-03 cancellation is a no-brainer as it is an S^1 device.

  • TSH

Anonymous, 27 Jan 2011http://www.usb.org/about/faq/ans6 I refer you to usb standar... moreHrm. When I have a chance I will check this out. Always happy to be proven wrong. Proof >>> opinion! :--D

  • Mark

Terrible post, 2010 profit is double that of 2009, and somehow it sounds like they did worse from this article.....

  • TSH

Anonymous, 27 Jan 2011USB OTG is not a hardware feature. The only "hardware"... moreSorry mate, but you're wrong about USB hardware. Look in your PCs device manager - you'll see a number of USB Host Controllers. That's hardware, and is a function that can't be added with software.
Arguing with fanatics never ends well, so I'll just say this: I appreciate all technology and what it brings to the user. Symbian combined with Nokia's hardware still serves my needs better than any iDevice/'Droid that I've used.
I'll keep looking at 'Droids and iDevices, though - I'm happy to switch if they meet my requirements. But currently, they don't.

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 27 Jan 2011It is not that they haven't cracked the US market, its the fact ... moreYou also mention Nokia's large presence in the mobile world. Then Nokia should have no problem making the N8 a best seller should it not? That much influence and you are bound to sell many of your flagships, unless that is your previous flagships was a big flop and left a bitter taste in your customer's mouth. You are also exactly right, due to Nokia's immense presence and influence this market, it affords them the comfort of being able to sell solely in name. Hence the reason why they are able to ship over 100 million devices even though the majority of them are low costing devices.

  • Anonymous

GrainySnapshot, 27 Jan 2011To put this in a little context, the Apple iPhone had sold 73.5 ... moreIt is not that they haven't cracked the US market, its the fact that they can't. Nokia has failed at negotiating with carriers to carry their devices. From the X7 being canned at ATT and the C5-03 being canned at T Mobile. Funny how you mention that Nokia's ability to put out products? You do realize Nokia is set back by many delays right? I don't even consider lifetime amount of devices sold because quite frankly that is a stupid and idiotic way to compare anything. The whole point is to look at device life cycles and compare them. It would be more justified in comparing the Iphone 4 when it hits its end of life cycle to the N8 when it hits its end of life cycle. But, they, you probably think it was unfair that Morgan Stanley's survey resulted in 6 Iphone 4 for every Nokia N8 sold huh? Nokia's in ability to adapt to market changes has lead to its constant market share shrink. Nokia isn't the only company that is failing to adapt to changing market, look at Samsung. Galaxy S, Galaxy S 4G, lack of updates, they will surely lose customer base in the near future. Samsung is going down the same path Motorola did when it had the RAZR series release.

  • GrainySnapshot

To put this in a little context, the Apple iPhone had sold 73.5 million units in its entire lifetime (according to wikipedia) by end 2010. Compare that to Nokia's sales of 123 million handsets in one year. Yes, this is comparing apples (i.e. Apples single high-end model) with oranges or more likely a whole fruit salad (i.e. Nokia's range from super cheap feature phones through to touch screen camera phone juggernauts) but that is the whole point. If your viewpoint is tracking the development of mobile phone technology, you cannot ignore Nokia. Nokia's product range is very diverse and they have access to multiple platforms and technologies. So, Nokia is going to be influential in the technology just by weight of numbers. If your viewpoint is corporate profitability, you cannot write Nokia off. The sheer size and breadth of Nokia's market penetration is immense. They are so big that they can have a massively profitable year and an increase in revenue and it is still a bad year. The fact that Nokia can do this without having cracked the US market is incredible. The lack of penetration in the US is not a flaw it's a massive source of potential. If Nokia does hit the right formula for a phone to penetrate the US market, that will all be cream for them. Given the speed with which Nokia can get products on the market you would have to think that eventually Nokia has a great shot at hitting the winning formula.

  • Anonymous

Symbian sucks.

Hopefully Nokia will eventually embrace Android and WM7 and develop it's Meego engine. The N8 could have been so much better.

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 27 Jan 2011Wow, I knew it. The first thing I see when I come to the commen... morebecause demotivating this brand is the hip thing to do these days. Makes them feel good.