Samsung will soon start producing second generation 10nm chips

20 April 2017
The Snapdragon and Exynos powering the S8 are built on a first generation 10nm process.

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ARM CPUs:

first batch "only some parts are actually 10nm, arguably, but really its mostly 14nm and 16nm"
second batch "more parts are"
third batch "lets do the same for 8nm"

Intel CPUs:
all transistors are actually 14nm when we say it is.

I know, it's not cool to say something good about Intel, but at least they don't trick you on basic stuff like that.

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    • EQp
    • 21 Apr 2017

    Anonymous, 20 Apr 2017V20, XZ, XZs, G5 and Moto Z Force have better benchmarks th... moreExynos 8890 S7 edge:
    http://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=G935F

    Snapdragon S7 edge:
    http://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=G935V

    G5:
    http://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=LG+G5

    G6:
    http://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=H870

    Xperia XZ:
    http://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=F8332

    Moto Z force:
    http://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=XT1650

    As you can see, the Exynos 8890 is more than 15% faster in single core and 50% faster in multi-core performance. Don't believe everything you hear online.

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      • 21 Apr 2017

      Xdadevet, 20 Apr 2017Yeah but due to its software your OP3 is much faster in gen... moreIt's not. It has better RAM management, yes. But app opening as well as raw CPU grunt the Exynos is faster.

      Exynos S7 also crushes the OP3 in battery life.

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          • 21 Apr 2017

          Anonymous, 20 Apr 20173rd generation 10 nm will be best . I will wait for it.No such thing. There are always only two gens. LPE & LPP only.

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            • 21 Apr 2017

            Anonymous, 20 Apr 20173rd generation 10 nm will be best . I will wait for it.what else u gonna do

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              • Anonymous
              • swf
              • 21 Apr 2017

              Xdadevet, 20 Apr 2017Yeah but due to its software your OP3 is much faster in gen... moreIt's because or RAM amount and storage speed. At this point SoC is not that important in day to day performance. Very rarely SoCs use peak performance at this point. I think the threshold was passed 2-3 years ago. At this point it's nand speed and ram caching, a bit of how a PC gets much faster (these days) if you buy an SSD than if you from an i5 to an i7.

              OnePlus is faster mostly because it stores more in RAM and therefore it's far faster to recall those than the phones using the nand more (Samsung phones). Hence why Oneplus phones are quite faster.

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                • 20 Apr 2017

                AnonD-563937, 20 Apr 2017so what is qualcomm doing next ? ..... or did they sell the... moreNice try

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                  • 4Js
                  • 20 Apr 2017

                  AnonD-563937, 20 Apr 2017i didnt say anything about which is better , but at least n... moreMost other companies would have done the same.
                  They didn't have major production issues....for the S8.
                  But definitely would have to supply everyone else as well

                    Anonymous, 20 Apr 20173rd generation 10 nm will be best . I will wait for it.They are planning 6th gen too...

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                      • 0Iw
                      • 20 Apr 2017

                      3rd generation 10 nm will be best . I will wait for it.

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                        • 20 Apr 2017

                        Boldy, 20 Apr 2017Bullshit. Exynos 8890 crushes SD820 in benchmarks as well a... morei didnt say anything about which is better , but at least now samsung basicly owns the two of them leaving all others like lg and sony either wait for sd835 after S8 has taken the market or release their 2017 flags with older sd821 and take ahit .

                          Boldy, 20 Apr 2017Bullshit. Exynos 8890 crushes SD820 in benchmarks as well a... moreYeah but due to its software your OP3 is much faster in general use. Just look at any speed test

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                            • JT5
                            • 20 Apr 2017

                            Sam Sung, 20 Apr 2017Will this be in the Note 8?Yes

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                              • JT5
                              • 20 Apr 2017

                              Boldy, 20 Apr 2017Bullshit. Exynos 8890 crushes SD820 in benchmarks as well a... moreV20, XZ, XZs, G5 and Moto Z Force have better benchmarks than both S7.

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                                • 20 Apr 2017

                                Will this be in the Note 8?

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                                  • 20 Apr 2017

                                  Anonymous, 20 Apr 2017A73 cores were weak, but saved more power. Best thing manuf... moreHopefully next year will be better for android SoCs.

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                                    • 20 Apr 2017

                                    AnonD-514012, 20 Apr 2017NO, other brands SD820 was better than Samsung exynos, Just... moreBullshit. Exynos 8890 crushes SD820 in benchmarks as well as battery life.

                                    And I own a OP3 that comes with SD820. The exynos S7 is way better.

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                                      • 20 Apr 2017

                                      AnonD-563937, 20 Apr 2017so what is qualcomm doing next ? ..... or did they sell the... moreNO, other brands SD820 was better than Samsung exynos, Just Samsung SD820 phones that are weaker than Exynos.

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                                        • Anonymous
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                                        • 20 Apr 2017

                                        Boldy, 20 Apr 2017Those gains come at the optimal v-f curve points. In real l... moreA73 cores were weak, but saved more power. Best thing manufacturers can do now is to reduce their cores and use that space to make custom cores, but instead of making more cores, they should make bigger cores based on the A73-successor