Counterclockwise: the evolution of smartphone cameras in the dark

18 February 2018
How much has Apple improved its cameras in recent years? What about Samsung, Sony, Huawei or Google?

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  • AnonD-373654
  • te3
  • 19 Feb 2018

wow sony sucks big tiime.;.. and it seems pixels arent that great after all... Galaxies were always good.. and iphones have improved big time

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    • Anonymous
    • JpI
    • 19 Feb 2018

    Advice for Sony users...

    If you decrease brightness on auto mode, ISO goes lower.
    No need to go manual.

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      • Anonymous
      • JpI
      • 19 Feb 2018

      Shui8, 19 Feb 2018To me iphone, google, huawei have good natural denoise and ... moreOf course if you pixel peep a 12MP will look better than a 19MP. Same way the 8MP will look better than 12.

      Smaller photos will be less strechted when you crop.

      Try this: crop the 19MP just 100% , then the 12MP 200%. So both can be almost same size.

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        • Anonymous
        • JpI
        • 19 Feb 2018

        Kangal, 19 Feb 2018iPhone > GalaxyS > Nexus > Huawei > Xperia. ... moreNexus 6p sucks

          [deleted post]Nobody forced you to reply to my comment dude...
          Looking at your favorite phone, you're full fanboy.
          No wonder you defend the 'best' smartphone manufacturer.

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            • Shui8
            • KZ8
            • 19 Feb 2018

            To me iphone, google, huawei have good natural denoise and natural sharpness. Galaxy are good but to much oversharpen. For Xperia, its time for OIS implementation. It looks good when u compare it side by side, but not when pixel peeping.

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              • uCX
              • 19 Feb 2018

              iPhone > GalaxyS > Nexus > Huawei > Xperia.

              ...in terms of solid improvements iteration after iteration.

                TheGoldenMellifluous, 18 Feb 2018Well , because they're preparing the best improvement on ca... moreWe don't know yet, but let's look forward to it. They have been lagging behind in terms of the improvement, no gonna lie. As that said, Sony have great Exmor RS sensors, but lacks a great camera software

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                  • Xerxes
                  • Mdv
                  • 19 Feb 2018

                  Sony was the worst, is the worst and will be the worst...
                  Get rid out of your dying phone business sony...
                  Its the best way to avoid being ridiculed much more...
                  Even Chinese phones are much better than yours LOL

                    KamAbdi, 18 Feb 2018Do it in the 12mp then talk. I dare you to talkAlready did 2 hours ago, you're wasting my time.
                    The Sony might be sharper but the color accuracy and dynamic range looks bad.

                      Nice comparison, you can see quality improvement with every generation. Only Huawei and Samsung differences are not distinct, but quality of photos are already good even with older generations, so harder to improve. In other case looking at Sony line up, just one to cut out my eyes looking at picture quality, just awful. Where is all the Sony fanboys now??? :))

                        Shadocx, 18 Feb 2018So n y f a n bo ys are always in de ni al. https://www.gs... moreDo it in the 12mp then talk. I dare you to talk

                          Anonymous, 18 Feb 2018This has 1,5MP. Not for phones. Sony makes sensors for s... moreBut we don't know what might happen because this year is special for them. It's the 10th year of the Xperia line. They might show case it in the MWC and if not, then, they might with IFA

                            Anonymous, 18 Feb 2018But the sample of XZ1 is better than Pixel 2. Click on sp... moreSo you check only 1 part of the picture? LOL
                            The spongebob is better on the U11+, the tomato and donkeys are better on Pixel 2 and HTC U11+
                            The U11+ is the best in my opinion, this is why i added it 1st...
                            It's really waste of time arguing with so ny fa nb o ys, you guys do the same on youtube:
                            'Sony is the Best'
                            yeahhh....bl i nd fanboys.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • JpI
                              • 18 Feb 2018

                              Shadocx, 18 Feb 2018So n y f a n bo ys are always in de ni al. https://www.gs... moreBut the sample of XZ1 is better than Pixel 2.
                              Click on spongebob

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                                • Anonymous
                                • JpI
                                • 18 Feb 2018

                                KamAbdi, 18 Feb 2018Actually Sony is preparing something. It is the first CMOS ... moreThis has 1,5MP. Not for phones.
                                Sony makes sensors for security cameras and cars

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                                  • AnonD-720661
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                                  • 18 Feb 2018

                                  Some people are asking for xenon flash but I don't think it'll be a big difference on phones. The distance will still be very short (compared to most digital cameras) so you are only talking about a bit better flash.

                                  Much better would be if the camera sensor was larger but this usually requires larger lens and thicker phone. If thickness doesn't increase, maybe we will end up with multiple lenses that are combined to produce one large photo in the future (instead of just zoom lens now, maybe two or three standard lens that merges them together).

                                    I use to repeat myself on this, but cameras on smartphones have a great disadvantage, lack of space for proper hardware. Yes software helps a lot but man, having a phone at 10mm wouldn't really be a problem. Yes smartphone cameras have evolved greatly, but no oem looks at the advantage of a bit fatter phone. advantages may include better powerful speaker(s), bigger battery, bigger camera module etc.

                                    instead they focus on tricks like battery savings and workarounds like bottom speakers.. pityfull. For companies like htc who used to be an all boomsound this and boomsound that no. Oems.. if you are reading this.. just stop with the dongles, cameras that go beyond the smartphone's back, bottom speakers and software tricks to have an excuse for the lack of hardware.

                                      TheGoldenMellifluous, 18 Feb 2018Well , because they're preparing the best improvement on ca... moreActually Sony is preparing something. It is the first CMOS sensor will use a backlit sensor
                                      Just read this https://petapixel.com/2018/02/17/sony-creates-groundbreaking-backlit-cmos-sensor-global-shutter/