Panasonic announces Lumix ZS200 and Lumix GX9 compact cameras
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- 15 Feb 2018
If it was capable of 60fps at 4k...then i would pay that 1000$
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- vxr
- 14 Feb 2018
Comparing a phone camera to a Compact, Mirrorless, or DSLR camera is like comparing a phone CPU vs computer CPU. Having 8GB phone RAM doesn't mean it's more powerful than 4GB computer RAM. In reality, that 8GB phone RAM will have a hard time or even fail to handle the capacity that a 4GB computer RAM is having. But I know other people would say "we are talking about cameras"; yes, they will never be the same because they have different scale, architecture, performance, etc. Yes, phone cameras have good shots and are getting better everyday, but they won't have the equal performance or won't go on par with the performance of professional cameras which are way ahead. If you don't get the idea, then you might wanna do a research.
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- vxr
- 14 Feb 2018
Phone cameras are way behind high end Compacts, Mirrorless, and DSLRs. Tell me a phone that can surpass (for example) an RX100 M5, and I would laugh at you lol. Trust me, any flagship camera phones out there will struggle in low light, professional cameras do that at ease. Phones have low native ISO, or only relying on boosting extended ISO, and low shutter speed. Oh well, nothing to do here, anyone here who thinks phone are superior then professional cameras are funny. Hahaha
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- 14 Feb 2018
Anonymous, 14 Feb 2018That's very wrong. I wonder whether you guys never compared... moreCompared Pixel 2 live pictures with HDR+ against a Nikon Coolpix B700. The B700 is not the best in range and ot the most expensive, but the Pixel 2 HDR+ algorithm is no match
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- 14 Feb 2018
Anonymous, 14 Feb 2018That's very wrong. I wonder whether you guys never compared... moreYeah, that´s why all the photographers around the globe now use (Google!!) smartphones for their jobs. LOL
Even HDR+ can´t replace a bigger sensor with high quality lenses. HDR+ even can´t replace old Nokia 1020 or 808 in terms of photo quality. It´s nonsense and picture quality especially in low light situations (but also for details and clarity in day light) proves it.
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- 14 Feb 2018
AnonD-660652, 14 Feb 2018I have been search photos of both phones and compacts for a... moreEither you are blind or you do some marketing stuff for smartphone industry. I use Pixel 2 and the "old" Pixel and I had Galaxy S8, Sony XZP and Huawei P10. None of these camera phones can compete with my 1" 400-Euro-camera.
Details of my "real" camera are much better, DR is sometimes similar, in low light even Pixel 2 is full of noise and if you only look at street lamps and other city scenes in low light you can see how badly a tiny sensor and cheap optics handle it. Every photo on flickr and elsewhere proves it. And when I use a DSLR the differences are even bigger. None of the phones of today with their 30-Euro-cameras can replace a real camera. Even not with HDR+.
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- 14 Feb 2018
opt, 14 Feb 2018Android O out of the box?Yep, it totally comes with Oreo because every camera needs Android.
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- 14 Feb 2018
AnonD-660035, 13 Feb 2018Yeah, if you don´t care about image quality you can a... moreI have been search photos of both phones and compacts for a while now. Best phones win overol
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- 14 Feb 2018
Anonymous, 14 Feb 2018That's very wrong. There is an advantage when you shoot raw... moreYou are talking only about dynamic range and nothing else where's the quality of pics go pixel level details bet pixel doesn't even stand against 1" one's forget apsc then again low light performance is a no match against dedicated cameras
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- P@Y
- 14 Feb 2018
Android O out of the box?
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- Anonymous
- pQr
- 14 Feb 2018
AnonD-558092, 13 Feb 2018Any camera like this obliterates the picture quality of eve... moreThat's very wrong. I wonder whether you guys never compared a real camera with a Google phone. When it comes to wide angle auto jpgs no Aps-c camera can compete. The only advantage is more resolution.
It's nonsense to buy a real camera unless you shoot in raw or want a different fiel of view.
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- Anonymous
- pQr
- 14 Feb 2018
AnonD-660035, 13 Feb 2018Yeah, if you don´t care about image quality you can a... moreThat's very wrong. There is an advantage when you shoot raw + manual mode. But in Auto Mode + jpg no Aps-c wide angle camera can compete with Google's HDR+.
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- 13 Feb 2018
AnonD-660652, 13 Feb 2018With modern image technologies found on mobile cameras nobo... moreYeah, if you don´t care about image quality you can also use a tomato for taking photos. Maybe you should search photos of high-end smartphones on flickr and search some photos of real cameras. The quality of a 1" sensor compact camera is still way better, especially in low light scenarios.
Smartphone industry is a big marketing machine which claims to offer better photo quality with every single new model. It´s a big lie because six year old Nokia phones had better photo quality with their big sensors and high quality lenses than even iPhone X and Pixel 2. That´s the reality and we can only hope that this year Huawei and Sony change this game a little bit.
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- 13 Feb 2018
AnonD-660652, 13 Feb 2018You forgot one thing. Processing. Dslrs and these compacts ... moreAny camera like this obliterates the picture quality of even the best cameraphone. There is a limit to what a CPU can do with poor input. Like Excel cannot extrapolate much with only a little percent of the info.
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- 13 Feb 2018
AnonD-660652, 13 Feb 2018You forgot one thing. Processing. Dslrs and these compacts ... moreIf you really think a pixel 2 competes with a rx100 you need to use an rx100 more mate
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- vxr
- 13 Feb 2018
AnonD-660652, 13 Feb 2018You forgot one thing. Processing. Dslrs and these compacts ... moreYes. On point mate, you got that right, and also the Native ISO haha. Some people just don't know the total difference between phone cameras and mirrorless, compacts, and FFs. Just when a phone does have 12mp-41mp, f/1.6, 960fps, or HDR doesn't mean it's better, even if a phone have those features, a simple RX100 (M3-M5), G7x M2, or LX100 can kill that phone, a good example is Low Light lol. BionzX, Venus, Digic, etc are too powerful to match lol.
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- 13 Feb 2018
paco2x, 13 Feb 2018Dpreview also covers some mobile news like the photo capabi... morewell, 1) because there are a ton of sites covering cameras 2) because this camera has no telephony but the phones that have cameras inside ... are ... well ... phones.
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- 13 Feb 2018
KMB877, 13 Feb 2018Great to hear about these new GSM products!!! GSMarena, wh... moreagreed, I thought it must have been an ad at first ...
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- 13 Feb 2018
Thank me later, 13 Feb 2018Not really, cameras like these posted, their performance ar... moreYou forgot one thing. Processing. Dslrs and these compacts lack any kind of hdr+ which now is widely used by almost every developer. This teck allows for approx 10 times better performance than conventional methods can offer. Because of this phones like pixel take approx the same photos as rx100m5
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- 13 Feb 2018
KMB877, 13 Feb 2018Great to hear about these new GSM products!!! GSMarena, wh... moreDpreview also covers some mobile news like the photo capability of the iPhone X or the Mate 10 cameras. I don't get it why some people get upset when GSMarena post tech news that is not mobile related.