Microsoft is considering the Snapdragon 1000 for future AR and VR devices, as well as desktop PCs

24 June 2018
Also, the mystical "Andromeda" foldable tablet might be in the works after all.

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Moj, 01 Jul 2018you know that not ganna happen! :)Well i know but maybe one day.
Would like to see Tiahne 2 with a mobile phone CPU.
It wouldnt be fastest computer in the world anymore.

  • Moj

oss, 25 Jun 2018Let me guess first Linux dist from Microsoft and Windows is no m... morethey already have a distro azure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Azure
so just stop being smartass or trolling here!

  • Moj

vrvly, 24 Jun 2018New surfaces(and andromeda) with arm are all about getting phone... moreas i can see and test surface pro 2017 is at the stage of having desktop os but mobile!
so theoretically no need QSD for this one!

  • Moj

CptPower, 24 Jun 2018I have but i was talking about this topic if mobile phone CPU ca... moreyou know that not ganna happen! :)

Vegetaholic, 25 Jun 2018Of course not. That's there console market is for, I still don't... moreYe i agree with you.
I have an Asus Notebook for over a 1000 euros despite its 3 years old new games working perfectly even Wolfenstein new colosus on high details is working without or with minor laggs which are not very often.

ZolaIII, 25 Jun 2018It's nothing to do with CPU. Adrenos are scalable but we didn't ... moreMan theses are two most powerfull CPUs currently available to buy both of them cost over 800 euros. I dont think that mobile phone chipset can ebat any of theses and i dont think it ever be. And even if that happens i dont think i will see some day a phone outruns Tianhe 2 the most powerfull computer ever made by humanity. http://www.datacenterdynamics.com/content-tracks­/servers-storage/chinas-tianhe-2-remains-worlds-­most-powerful-computer/83574.fullarticle

And the present CPUs.

INTEL Core i7-6900K BROADWELL (20M Cache, up to 3.70 GHz)

INTEL Core i9-7900X X-series Skylake (13.75M Cache, up to 4.30 GHz) BX80673I97900X

Kiyasuriin, 25 Jun 2018It's only the beginning of Qualcomm in the X86 world. I believe ... moreMaybe but mobile phone chipset never beat the beast like is Ryzen.
And the time when a mobile phone beats Tianhe 2 is maybe 50 years from ow or even more :-)

  • oss

Let me guess first Linux dist from Microsoft and Windows is no more after taking control of GitHub

CptPower, 24 Jun 2018Well for heavy gamer like me this wouldnt work. Wanna dee the ... moreOf course not. That's there console market is for, I still don't get people who really wants to play new games on low power PC, Console perfectly does that much better, you want portable gaming you have Switch(darksouls coming on it) you want home gaming experience with surround sound and massive screen, you have Xbox one x and ps4 pro, you want best graphics you have PC, there is no need to have low power devices running top PC games, there is no point for that

Competition never hurts. So Intel will be forced to produce better low power processors for portable devices, that is very good. Not sure about desktop PC's I mean mini PC configurations for schools or offices might be good chance to snub some market share from Intel, but Intel has more experience in there we will see

  • Anonymous

eGPU.. compatibility with eGPU.

Once you can use thunderbolt 3 box with something like GTX 1080 / 1070. VR .. AR.. anything is possible.

This will cause Intel to wake up seriously.. and put thunderbolt 3 support into their ATOMs Core Y and N. But by then.. its too late.

CptPower, 24 Jun 2018Well so it means PC games are not build for mobile phones CPU. ... moreIt's nothing to do with CPU. Adrenos are scalable but we didn't seen larger than four cluster one (the A540 on S835 is one of those for instance) the A630 on S845 is two cluster (& slightly faster than 8 gan iGP's) but I am certain it can scale up to at least four which would put it head to head against current AMD's APU offering. EGLS is striped down version of the EGL and goes only up to EGL(S) 3.1. Freedreno EGL is almost up to EGL 3.3. I don't know how good things stand with Direct X, probably not very good but luckily all of that doesn't drink much water with Vulkan which is API of the future (but rather slow coming one). It remains to be seen what S1000 will actually be. I would go with 6x A76 & two A55 along with at least doubled A630 GPU & if it fits in 12W max DTP and price is right it will be a huge thing. M$ Windows will be far from ironed up & ready to go but I am certain Linux will at the time of arrival.

  • Anonymous

The Snapdragon based chipsets would at best rival the Y-Series. SD835 on Windows was a joke. SD1000 might be a better option than the Y-Series. Hopefully they arrive on the 12-inch MacBook as well.
The U-Series is far more powerful and the 8550U/8650U is not that far behind the full powered 7700HQ, even with a third of the TDP. For gaming of course, the HQ processors are the only way to go.

CptPower, 24 Jun 2018Well so it means PC games are not build for mobile phones CPU. ... moreIt's only the beginning of Qualcomm in the X86 world. I believe the series 2000 will compete with the underdogs of Intel, or something like that

Kiyasuriin, 24 Jun 2018I compiled Dark Souls on SD845. Here are the results: On highes... moreWell so it means PC games are not build for mobile phones CPU.
So it will never work.
GTA 5 would end same. But Darksouls is much more specs hungry.

  • opelit

I think MS should hard push the ARM .

With PWA even desktops will have great app-base . Its just time for dev to create arm, drivers for GPU etc ..

The next great step for ms could be if all games will be UWP so will run on arm , x86 and x64 . with ARM GPU drivers snapdragon could easy run these games with active cooling and at 3.5GHz or even higher with such a low TPD

CptPower, 24 Jun 2018Well for heavy gamer like me this wouldnt work. Wanna dee the ... moreI compiled Dark Souls on SD845. Here are the results:
On highest possible demands paired with 8GB internal plus 8 external. The load was a constant 100%, FPS count barely passed 3FPS. AND the lag was insane.
In compatible mode (FHD, low textures, etc) load were safer, K385S was still at 80%, but gold were at 42%. And FPS was a decent 45 FPS

Jase PM, 24 Jun 2018"Still, we can easily see the Snapdragon 1000, or a similar chip... moreWell weirder things happened already like Intel Radeon APU but it might be a NUC it certainly won't be a Intel one. Linux guys like more a developer bord as a sort of expression (with casing and all).

ZloiYuri, 24 Jun 2018Oh really??? Ok, let's look at old and outdated Core i7 3689Y. M... moreIn your case it doesn't help no matter how much you search for it.
The old Y series whose let me quote "power saving trough marketing". It does use only 7W but running on 800MHz both core's or just one on 1.5GHz. It uses 13W on 1.5GHz. All od that is for CPU only (no; GPU, RAM or anything else accounted in). Now for the interpretive & up to date results;
https://blog.cloudflare.com/arm-takes-wing/
I hope that isn't to much for you. You know what, never mind.