Weekly poll results: wide cameras still beat telephoto ones as monochrome ones fade

15 July 2018
Monochrome has fallen out of fashion - people no longer feel monochrome sensors are needed to get good low-light shots and instead prefer tele and wide-angle cameras.

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Kangal, 18 Jul 2018You know, I can design and make the smartphone. My limitation i... moreYou should totally email them

  • Kangal

Walter C. Dornez, 17 Jul 2018Hmm, I suppose a start-up company like Light would be able to pu... moreYou know, I can design and make the smartphone.
My limitation is that of money, time, and resources. If the likes of Xiaomi would hire me as an intern or consultant to push out a small batch (100 devices), we could craft the prototypes without much issue. Once that hard part is done, the rest is just mass production (

Kangal, 16 Jul 2018No, the motherboard is the whole silicon and the RAM is internal... moreHmm, I suppose a start-up company like Light would be able to pull it off. Light already charges hard. At least they can make the phone stand or this way

  • Kangal

Walter C. Dornez, 16 Jul 2018Isn't that where the motherboard and ram go though? No, the motherboard is the whole silicon and the RAM is internalised in the CPU/GPU/DSP block. Hence, why we commonly do not refer to the ARM as a standalone "processor" and instead refer to it as a SoC (System on a Chip).

Trust me, it is do-able and not as difficult as you might think.
The important part is if there are any OEMs willing to do so. It will definitely cost more money to incorporate TWO led flash and laser autofocus units and TWO primary cameras such as IMX 380. Most manufacturers usually get a lower-grade Sony Exmor camera, and combine that with a cheap OmniVision camera, and a single LED. Technically they're both "Dual Cameras" so they are equal when it comes to Marketing, but not Cost. OEMs always cheap out, which is the sound decision for the short-term...but not a good solution for a long-term.

Wide cameras are waste in smartphone

  • Anonymous

Advanced sensor, not sony obivously. Hopefully Nokia with 1" sensor in 2019

  • 50mm

Telephoto? 50mm isn't even a telephoto focal length

Kangal, 16 Jul 2018Not at all. Here look at the Samsung S8 teardown: https://www.y... moreIsn't that where the motherboard and ram go though?

  • Kangal

Walter C. Dornez, 15 Jul 2018IDK, that seems like there would be a weirdly shaped battery tha... moreNot at all. Here look at the Samsung S8 teardown:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRmY-4HKVIk

See how much space there is on the left-side (looking from rear). Put a nice camera on each ends, eh voila!

All hail LG...

Oh wait...

XZ2 Premium is coming.

Wide angle cameras are easily imitated with panorama mode, can't always get closer to your subject on the other hand, which is what a telephoto lens is for...

Kangal, 15 Jul 2018Symmetrical, but not centred. Remember the battery is long and ... moreIDK, that seems like there would be a weirdly shaped battery that wouldn't work out

  • Anonymous

LG we salute you. Ultrawide lens camera is awesome.

Anonymous, 15 Jul 2018I want someone to beat Huaweis P20 Pro cameraWhich camera? :) Well if its about main fov - normal fov, xz2premium is coming, be it performance in color or monochrome, it should be better in quality. Though half in resolution, and on smaller color sensor and monochrome res., quality is better across whole frame(optics), it got higher real color resolution(visible in patterns, means more true picture), better triple sensor tech, bigger monochrome pixels, more image processing power. Scene is chosen well even without AI.
See latest leaks, comparisons to see how it perform.

Anonymous, 15 Jul 2018They have great sensors, but there lenses are still mha. Just li... moreAnd maybe never will be, with aube or dedicated isp in. Still visible in output. But if its about fov, I like their super wide selfie, and I'm sure it would be great also on the back.

Anonymous, 15 Jul 2018I want someone to beat Huaweis P20 Pro camerap10 plus, mate 9 pro can beat p20 pro, because they dont have ai to ruin the quality ;) yes you can partly turn it off in standard, not its not 100% off in anything else than pro mode.

  • Anonymous

I want someone to beat Huaweis P20 Pro camera

  • Kangal

Walter C. Dornez, 15 Jul 2018Oh wait. I just realized something. You said to put the camera s... moreSymmetrical, but not centred.
Remember the battery is long and not necessarily in the middle. So there's definitely space for it there.

Kangal, 15 Jul 2018I think the wide-angle needs to become the primary camera. Th... moreOh wait. I just realized something. You said to put the camera some distance from each other vertically, correct. A symmetrical back right? That wouldn't work, because the battery is where that theoretical camera would be

Kangal, 15 Jul 2018I think the wide-angle needs to become the primary camera. Th... moreSeeing as how manufacturers are playing a game of, "Just add another camera! Another one!", sadly, it seems that they won't do that. It's a shame to. Perfect symmetry can be unlocked and functional