Die shot of Kirin 980 shows off the chip's floor plan, two different Cortex-A76 designs
- ?
- Anonymous
- iL5
- 07 Nov 2018
Anonymous, 07 Nov 2018Best android chipset, qualcomm have fallen behindwait for snapdragon 8150 and exynos 9820 and say that again.
- ?
- Anonymous
- mx{
- 07 Nov 2018
Best android chipset, qualcomm have fallen behind
- Z
- ZolaIII
- S9u
- 07 Nov 2018
Well the good news is that A76 die actually looks smaller than expected meaning higher efficiency than expected, on the other hand it doesn't really reach the ARM performance promised targets but at this size it really is a stunning design.
- O
- O S
- mix
- 07 Nov 2018
Whackcar, 07 Nov 2018IMO, the Kirin 980 is seriously impressive. Obviously it's ... moreHuawei crippled Kirin980 GPU (probably to save cost on silicon). ARM Mali G76 can get up to MP20 but Kirin980 uses MP10, this limits its performance to just above Adreno616 used in SD710 instead of competing with Adreno630 used in SD845.
Adreno630 has 256 SIMD-ALU and 1024KB L2 cache
Adreno616 has 128 SIMD-ALU and 512KB L2 cache
Kirin980 (G76 MP10) has 160 SIMD-ALU and 512KB L2 cache
A fully configured ARM Mali G76 MP20 has 320 SIMD-ALU and 4096KB L2 cache.
Huawei decided to implement a watered down ARM Mali G76
- ?
- Anonymous
- LEi
- 07 Nov 2018
I wish I knew what any of this meant, but I still have to congratulate Huawei for developing such a good chip. The previous Kirin versions were mostly seen as drawbacks of the previous Huawei flagships, hopefully it'll be seen as a benefit from now on.
If they continue developing yearly chipsets, they should catch up to Apple (which they clearly want to do) soon enough.
- G
- GOOGL
- tDQ
- 07 Nov 2018
On nanometers scale I didn't see any A76 core or anything. I am curious, what's make a thin layer of 'blink-blink' is an A76 or A55 cluster?
- g
- ghddfgsgs
- J78
- 07 Nov 2018
YalokIy, 07 Nov 2018"in fact it was fairly even with the Mali-G72 MP12 of the o... moreIn addition the Kirin 980 has a 10 core Mali GPU vs the 12 core Mali GPU of the Kirin 970. So if the Kirin 980 had a 12 core GPU, the 50% improvement will be spot on.
However Kirin philosophy is to balance battery life and they don't throw in 20 cores for the GPU like the Exynos when 10 cores runs everything you need without any trouble.
- Whackcar
- tZt
- 07 Nov 2018
IMO, the Kirin 980 is seriously impressive. Obviously it's performance is nowhere near the Apple beast, but neither is Qualcomm's or Exynos'.
The one area where they always lag behind is GPU performance. They should consider doing something about that.
- Dolanescu
- B1H
- 07 Nov 2018
Walter C. Dornez, 07 Nov 2018Radeon? Don't you mean Adreno?
And as for Apple, Samsung a... moreQualcomm has the Andreno design/ technology from ATI/AMD...
And yes... on the GPU side Snapdragon is two steps forward...
- Peter-B
- 3FJ
- 07 Nov 2018
Walter C. Dornez, 07 Nov 2018Radeon? Don't you mean Adreno? And as for Apple, Samsung a... moreFunny thing, Adreno used to be the mobile Radeon division, but AMD sold it to Qualcomm (the name is an anagram). I wonder if they regret selling now.
- Y
- YalokIy
- n}%
- 07 Nov 2018
"in fact it was fairly even with the Mali-G72 MP12 of the older Kirin 970."
Nope, while it is less than 50% better, it is actually pretty close to that number (30-40%).
- Walter C. Dornez
- r93
- 07 Nov 2018
Kangal, 07 Nov 2018That GPU is massive, relatively speaking.
ARM Mali is bare... moreRadeon? Don't you mean Adreno?
And as for Apple, Samsung and Qualcomm have to catch up. Cuz at it stands, there's no reason to get an Android tablet or an Android phone for long term
- K
- Kangal
- Hqa
- 07 Nov 2018
That GPU is massive, relatively speaking.
ARM Mali is barely catching up to Qualcomm's Radeon in terms of performance and efficiency but doing so at a massive size penalty.
Even Apple, with their limited experience is doing better on this front. Hopefully this will be the focal point of the next-gen Mali series....because these die sizes cost money (and a smaller size means flagship GPU on mid-range SoC's).