Phone with in-screen selfie camera appears in the wild

27 November 2018
The device was spotted in China in a pre-production case.

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Akinaro, 27 Nov 2018What weird times we have when OEM advertise phone with... h... moreAhahahahahahahah, very funny.

    Sonu4678, 27 Nov 2018You're right on that one, my bad. It's really hard to dig ... moreDid I ever said that Apple copied it from Essential? My original comment where you replied was "who started it". -,-

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      Gandalfdenvite, 27 Nov 2018These holes are not the kind of "in"/under screen cameras I... moreYes! Exactly this! Thank you!
      This is how it should be implemented, exactly as described here if you want to hide the camera, otherwise just leave a notch. Those companies that are doing away with the pixels and leaving dead space; why???

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        • Gandalfdenvite
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        • 27 Nov 2018

        These holes are not the kind of "in"/under screen cameras I want to see! There must be a possibility to completely hide the camera under the screen pixels, and then turn those pixels off, or "hide" the screen-pixels, when the front camera i used!

          Dominique, 27 Nov 2018It was launched August 17, 2017 but was announced May 2017.... moreYou're right on that one, my bad.
          It's really hard to dig up old news, but i clearly remember being fed up with the iPhone rumors before the release of Essential phone. Look at this source for example -

          https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-iphone-8-rumors-news-200007174.html

          We were kinda sure at that point that new iPhone would have Oled, 3d sensing technology and all screen phone. These rumors were from a reliable source.

          My point is that it's wrong to say Apple copied Essential.

            Ok can we get the Notch back? Waterdrop one please or atleast move this thing to center to it does not block notifications and is hidden in status bar

              Sonu4678, 27 Nov 2018Hey, what did you smoke today? Essential's PH1 was release... moreIt was launched August 17, 2017 but was announced May 2017.
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              The Essential Phone (officially Phone or PH-1) is an Android smartphone designed by Android co-founder Andy Rubin, and manufactured, developed and marketed by Essential Products. The phone was announced on May 30, 2017 and released on August 17, 2017.
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              Check their site. -,-

                indiefund, 27 Nov 2018Interesting, yes you are right on this one :) Hehe...you earned my respect bro. People like you make GSMArena a good place to debate.

                  Sonu4678, 27 Nov 2018If we're going with the past news, https://www.gsmarena.co... moreInteresting,
                  yes you are right on this one :)

                    Dominique, 27 Nov 2018PH-1 was released May 30,2017 while the Sharp's Aquos S2 wa... moreHey, what did you smoke today?
                    Essential's PH1 was released in August, 2017.
                    https://www.gsmarena.com/_essential_ph_1-8710.php
                    Do some research before you embarrass yourself.

                      indiefund, 27 Nov 2018https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_working_on_smartphone_with_... moreIf we're going with the past news,
                      https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_patent_shows_selfie_camera_may_be_behind_the_screen-news-29217.php
                      Samsung was working long before Huawei according to this report. Look at the patent image and match the selfie camera placement with rumored A8s.
                      Huawei is definitely much bigger now, but it still has a habit of being a "Hyena". Look at how fast they come up with the notch knockoffs. Chinese brands are just damn fast.

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                        Anonymous, 27 Nov 2018Huawei is always at the forefront of new tech... this is a ... moreInventing first is not a matter itself,it has to be a better quality product.That is all matters..

                          Sonu4678, 27 Nov 2018What do you mean by first "in Innovation"? These brands us... morehttps://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_working_on_smartphone_with_a_display_hole_for_the_camera_instead_of_a_notch-news-32322.php

                          Huawei is working on this design long before Samsung released the Infinity designs and they are almost as big as Samsung on mobile phone department so it is not easy to just copy paste a design on a couple of months like you are mentioning. Maybe Samsung copied the design btw since the sources on the article were Korean but since I dont have proof this is unfair speculation. To be fair against all, the one one that gets the product first on the market usually 'owns' the idea.

                            Sonu4678, 27 Nov 2018I've been hearing this ridiculous statement so often that i... morePH-1 was released May 30,2017 while the Sharp's Aquos S2 was released August 14, 2017 and the bigger notch on iPhoneX was launched September 12, 2017. You're correct, that was about 4 months.

                              Anonymous, 27 Nov 2018Huawei is always at the forefront of new tech... this is a ... moreYeah, they are too fast in stealing other's ideas. They will be probably be number 1 soon.
                              I'm waiting for the time when only Chinese phones remain in the market.
                              Oh, Boy! It'll be a bloodshed then. In the end, most advanced thieves among them would win.

                                Dominique, 27 Nov 2018It would be better for you to check who started the "notch"... moreI've been hearing this ridiculous statement so often that it's infuriating me.
                                Tell me who who started the "notch" design?
                                Let me guess you would probably say "Essential".
                                Essential launched its notched phone 1 month before Apple did.
                                Do you think a brand like Apple can copy a design and execute it in 1 month?
                                You must be a brain dead if you think like that. The production cycle of a typical iPhone is around 4 to 5 months, same goes for Samsung and other big brands.
                                If you were following GSMArena around that time, you must have been fed up with the confirmed rumors of a notched iPhone before we knew anything about Essential's phone.
                                Dude, use your head. Big corporations are much slower than a small one.
                                When Essential launched their phone, it was clearly a rushed phone. Its software was unfinished. The only app they added was unfinished. They just designed the phone, manufactured it and rushed it out.
                                It was a gorgeous phone, no doubt about that.

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                                  • Hoffmann
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                                  It has the jack...wow

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                                    • Anonymous
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                                    • 27 Nov 2018

                                    Huawei is always at the forefront of new tech... this is a big reason they will reach no 1 soon

                                      Nova, 27 Nov 2018Here we go another bunch of Chinese phone companies to star... moreIt would be better for you to check who started the "notch" design before Apple capitalized on it. -,-

                                        Akinaro, 27 Nov 2018What weird times we have when OEM advertise phone with... h... moreThere is no hole in screen. Camera is below the screen. There is no cut-out.

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