TSMC begins mass production of 7nm+ process for A13, Kirin 985 chipsets

27 May 2019
The Taiwanese manufacturer is expected to hit 150% increase in wafer production for the flagship chipsets.

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Curtisjr1, 27 May 2019985 then now 4everYes, last chipset they can produce before going legs up unless banned will be moved.

Joe Dickson, 31 May 2019It is using American materials.source

johnwick, 29 May 2019TSMC have nothing to do with american ban. Its not using americu... moreIt is using American materials.

Joe Dickson, 28 May 2019They better stop supplying Huawei or they will lose all US orders.TSMC have nothing to do with american ban. Its not using americutn tech

Jun1250, 27 May 20190.07nm = 70pm (picometer)i like the atto :-)
Or Zepto and Yocto XD.

Nouritto, 27 May 2019After 5 nm there is no more.. you have to put Electron diameter ... moreMan even einstein believed there is nothing faster than speed of lght.
To be honest i am sure soon or later in future we will create spacecrafts capable of warp speeds. In other words much faster than speed of light.

Anonymous, 27 May 2019There’s no more Kirin the last Kirin 985.Thats a lie.
I dont believe hat Huawei will fold his weapons so easily.

pavel, 27 May 2019snapdragon s855 is the best processor. kirin is trash Still better han Eynos or Mediatek hihi

Note7 owner, 27 May 2019It's only a matter of time these guys will be forced to reject H... moreNo the wuill dont they can reject apple as well but then mr.Trump will shred his hair on his head.

Anonymous, 27 May 2019Kirin 985 is going to be beastKirin has never been a beast. It's always trailing in the competition of the same period. It doesn't have any custom design and everything is stock (well, minus that NPU maybe). It's bad in thermal management though excels in battery life (part of the OS work as well). It can't even put the same number of GPU cores as Exynos counterpart, showing a space management problem.

They better stop supplying Huawei or they will lose all US orders.

Anonymous, 27 May 2019As good? Are you talking about performance? Because pergormance ... morePerformance and Power drain are greatly affected by the lithography, but the biggest effect comes from the actual architecture (and software!).

No, I was talking about the density when comparing that Intel 32nm to the TSMC 20nm die. I just want people to not be NOT tricked by the marketing names, I want them to know these wafer fabrications are more complex than a simple number.

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Love the Community, 27 May 2019Sure, Huawei still got the CPU but does TSMC make GPU? Well, on... moreSorry but do you know anything about this matter? Huawei specifically, the kirin SoC's that they develop and then produced by TSMC, they use CPU and GPU designs from ARM. Some other companies take those designs and improve upon them(mostly the CPU). I don't know if they can make from scratch their own ARM architecture cause of the ban, but even if they could make their own from scratch, I don't think it will be good. Maybe the only option is to change to some other RISC architecture!

pavel, 27 May 2019snapdragon s855 is the best processor. kirin is trash why ?

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Love the Community, 27 May 2019Sure, Huawei still got the CPU but does TSMC make GPU? Well, on... moreArm doesnt make anything, they are designing chips and selling licences, and no factory is making smartphone CPU without GPU imthey are all manufacturing SoC(system on chip)

Anonymous, 27 May 2019Kirin 985 is going to be beastWhy will the Kirin 985 be a 'beast'? They only ever use stock ARM cores. Only Apple and Samsung design and use proper custom cores.

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Anonymous, 27 May 2019Kirin 985 is going to be beastWill be the same garbage as 980 but with 5G modem. Useless. Still no 4k at 60 fps. Just 2018 performance

Nouritto, 27 May 2019After 5 nm there is no more.. you have to put Electron diameter ... more14 Angstrom chipset after 3nm.

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pavel, 27 May 2019snapdragon s855 is the best processor. kirin is trash Without this "valuable" comment, we would all be lost, now... I guess you are an engineer and know everything about Kirin's performance.

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Kangal, 27 May 2019No, you are wrong. 16nm, 14nm, 12nm, 10nm etc etc they are no... moreAs good? Are you talking about performance? Because pergormance is not directly dependant on transistor size