ZTE patents a smartphone with two separate punch-hole cameras

05 June 2019
The certificate is issued by the Chinese National Intellectual Property Administration.

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  • 07 Jun 2019

Meh, 07 Jun 2019Thanks for the article, i'll read that later after my work ... moreHello my friend.
I do understands your point.
But even a wired earphones which are cheap plays as bad as wireless ones which are cheap.
Again the radiatio is low and technology is evolving every single day.
In maybe 10 years earphones and cellphones will generate much less SAR level as now.
SAR radiation uses same wawes as microwawe over and if you cant get cancer from using wireless audio you can get it by often heating a food in a microwawe oven.
But thats just story. My family and i use microwawe ovens from times they were created like 40 years ago. Since now no worries food is hot edible and good.

If we would worry about our life we have to move to some rainforests or places were is no energy soources such as rainforests artic areas or deserts, high cliffs or mountains.
Nowdays everything can kill you.
But as i said each and every technology is evolving.
On what we claps our hands today will get old or veryold in few more years.
After 50-100 or more years there will be such technology that people today will looks like from stone age.

And agin to end my coversation. Wired audio is maybe better but it have no place and space to evolve.
Wireless is the future and here companies focus their research.

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    • iny
    • 07 Jun 2019

    AnonD-731363, 07 Jun 2019Hello buddy. But did i even said something about the wir... moreThanks for the article, i'll read that later after my work today.

    Now i would agree that there have been research proving that wireless devices are harmless, but did you know there are also some research saying otherwise?

    Many reseach contradicts with each other. Now take a look at this article

    https://www.radiationhealthrisks.com/bluetooth-technology-radiation/ - Is Bluetooth Radiation Dangerous? - Here Are The Facts!

    "Bluetooth is dangerous because like regular WiFi, it transmits using Radio Frequency (RF) Radiation.
    There are hundreds of peer reviewed scientific studies linking RF Radiation to cancer.
    Even the World Health Organization classified it as a “possible carcinogenic”, which means “causes cancer”."

    Now what concerns me is why is there some research telling us that it is NOT harmful to us and there are some telling us otherwise?

    Don't you think that the people proving that it IS harmless could only be doing that do brainwash people so bluetooth products will sell?

    We all know that when it comes to business, people will do everyting including telling lies just for the sake of their business. For their products to sell, to earn money.

    I dunno maybe this is only me, i may be mistaken about this, i don't know, but still im not convinced that bluetooth devices ARE 100% safe. I'd appreciate it if you can share more articles and try to convince me that im wrong.,

    And i would like to highlight what you've said earlier,

    "I understand your point but on sites such as wish.com you can buy wireless earbuds or earphones from as low as 1 euro so your statement of buying expensive device is not really good.
    I can understand that 1 euro earphones would play completely bad or below average but still if price matters nobody would argue. "

    You've just proven that cheap bluetooth earphones are bad. So if we want a good one, we're gonna have to spend more.

    "your statement of buying expensive device is not really good. " sorry but i completely disagree on that part

    Now dude why would i buy an expensive bluetooth earphones if i can just get myself a cheaper wired earphones? Besides, wired ones doesn't need charging, cheaper, no radiation, and no latency.

    Wired earphones are cheaper and practical to use compared to bluetooth earphones.

    The only good thing that i can see in bluetooth earphones is that it is wireless. That's it.

    For me, if this wireless gimmick will be the future of our technology, these wireless earphones that needs charging & have latency (which are a big let down for me), emits some radiation, then i would say that this future of technology is ugly and not for the good.

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      • AnonD-731363
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      • 07 Jun 2019

      Meh, 07 Jun 2019Oh please. "Please tell me since when earphones or earbuds ... moreHello buddy.

      But did i even said something about the wireless earphones generating more SAR? No?
      My friend i just repeat what you said before: ( Going full wireless is not good for the health. Now the fact that we already are receiving small amount of radiation by using our smartphones everyday, i don't plan on receiving more. Bluetooth gadgets or any wireless gadgets emits radiation incase you didn't know. Maybe you're gonna tell me that the radiation being emitted by these gadgets is only small and harmless, but it IS still radiation. Radiation has negative effects if we are exposed to high amounts and if exposed for too long.
      Like i said earlier, the radiation we're receiving from our phone is enough and it is not a good idea if you plan on receiving more from those wireless things. Maybe now there's not an effect YET on your health. But surely you'll get health problems in years to come after being exposed to too much radiation. )

      Then again Earbuds and earphones generates up to 10-20 of what phone generates. In other words radiation is so low that even a long term use of these devices will have no effect on human body. Copmpared to a cell phone. ň

      !!!Again radiation and SAR levels are like same thing!!!

      Acording to research i posted before and testing even Dr. Moskovitz said the generation of radiation is so small even a long term use will have no effect on human body so there is no need for worry.
      I wouldnt worry. These super overpaid people know something much more than you or I.
      I trust his research so you could too.

      Another research bit long but worth reading if you want.
      https://www.radiationhealthrisks.com/bluetooth-technology-radiation/
      Still all claimed phone generates much more radiation than wireless earphones or earbuds. And disposing earbuds but keepig the cellphone doesnt save your health even a bit.

      Wireless earphones still sucks and no one can deny that. The fact that it has latency, it needs charging, and worse it emits radiation that CAN BE harmful to the health."

      And finaly: (My point still stands, wireless earphones still sucks a$$ compared to wired ones.
      They only reason they're trying to go full wireless is to milk us by forcing us to buy their expensive wireless earphones. )
      I understand your point but on sites such as wish.com you can buy wireless earbuds or earphones from as low as 1 euro so your statement of buying expensive device is not really good.
      I can understand that 1 euro earphones would play completely bad or below average but still if price matters nobody would argue.

      So again i understand your point but you are worrying for nothing.

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        • iny
        • 07 Jun 2019

        AnonD-731363, 06 Jun 2019Man please: And the fact that wired earphones doesn't need ... moreOh please. "Please tell me since when earphones or earbuds generate more SAR level than phone its self???"

        "So again please educate your self i just turned upside down everything you was concerned about with a real facts." Well thanks for educating me dude.

        But did i even said something about the wireless earphones generating more SAR? No?

        If i have to repeat myself, "the radiation we're receiving from our phone is enough and it is not a good idea if you plan on receiving more from those wireless things. Maybe now there's not an effect YET on your health. But surely you'll get health problems in years to come after being exposed to too much radiation."

        That's what i said and nothing about it generating more SAR than the phone like you were claiming.

        What im trying to point out is even if it generates less radiation than our phones, it IS still radiation. Long-term exposure could potentially cause health issues.

        check this out - https://www.thewindowsclub.com/bluetooth-radiation-harmful-safe
        "There is no proof that Bluetooth radiation can be dangerous to humans. ... So one can generally say that using Bluetooth headphones or speakers is safe if used within limits. But long-term exposure could potentially cause health issues."

        And im still waiting for your answer to this

        "And the fact that wired earphones doesn't need to be charged, you can use them as long as your phone has power. Can wireless earphones/headphones do that?

        Wireless earphones still sucks and no one can deny that. The fact that it has latency, it needs charging, and worse it emits radiation that CAN BE harmful to the health."

        My point still stands, wireless earphones still sucks a$$ compared to wired ones.
        They only reason they're trying to go full wireless is to milk us by forcing us to buy their expensive wireless earphones.

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          • 06 Jun 2019

          Meh, 06 Jun 2019Going full wireless is not good for the health. Now the fac... moreMan please: And the fact that wired earphones doesn't need to be charged, you can use them as long as your phone has power. Can wireless earphones/headphones do that?

          Wireless earphones still sucks and no one can deny that. The fact that it has latency, it needs charging, and worse it emits radiation that can be harmful to the health.

          Please tell me since when earphones or earbuds generate more SAR level than phone its self???
          Average cellphone generate 1000 units of SAR and up to 2000 is allowed for use othervise the phone its self cant be manufactured.
          Average earphones and earbuds bluetooth or wireless generate only 10 to 20% of average phone. Not more. JBL, BOSE, Senheiser and some AKG generate even less.
          If you dont know i just told you.

          PLease read this:
          https://www.healthline.com/health-news/are-wireless-headphones-dangerous#Scientists-believe-the-current-EMF-guidelines-are-inadequate
          / In general, the amount of radiation Bluetooth headphones emit is significantly less than what’s generated from a typical cell phone, according to Moskowitz. /

          So again please educate your self i just turned upside down everything you was concerned about with a real facts.

            Love the Community, 05 Jun 2019It's a possibility. I mean that's probably how half of Soun... moreGonna disagree with that latter statement, but yeah, you're right about the majority. Still, the biggest thing about wired is that it's just easier, doesn't run out of battery, and at least no latency

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              • 06 Jun 2019

              AnonD-731363, 05 Jun 2019Man shill and get real shill. Blluetooth and wireless is ... moreGoing full wireless is not good for the health. Now the fact that we already are receiving small amount of radiation by using our smartphones everyday, i don't plan on receiving more. Bluetooth gadgets or any wireless gadgets emits radiation incase you didn't know. Maybe you're gonna tell me that the radiation being emitted by these gadgets is only small and harmless, but it IS still radiation. Radiation has negative effects if we are exposed to high amounts and if exposed for too long.

              Like i said earlier, the radiation we're receiving from our phone is enough and it is not a good idea if you plan on receiving more from those wireless things. Maybe now there's not an effect YET on your health. But surely you'll get health problems in years to come after being exposed to too much radiation.

              And the fact that wired earphones doesn't need to be charged, you can use them as long as your phone has power. Can wireless earphones/headphones do that?

              Wireless earphones still sucks and no one can deny that. The fact that it has latency, it needs charging, and worse it emits radiation that can be harmful to the health.

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                • 06 Jun 2019

                Anonymous, 05 Jun 2019Foolish excuse comment about quality. Claming you are audio... moreand may i add bluetooth audio transmission technology has moved leaps and bounds since the sbc and aptx era; we now have aptxhd and ldac which can pretty much compete with wired audio transmission. now, the only issue with bluetooth is the latency.

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                  • Anonymous
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                  • 06 Jun 2019

                  Love the Community, 05 Jun 2019It's a possibility. I mean that's probably how half of Soun... moreYou are joking, right? No current phone or tablet has the necessary power for a program like FLStudio, Steinberg Cubase, or similar. I have a friend who works with FLStudio, recently upgraded his PC to 8Core/16Threads, and still has projects which can load the system 100%.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • 3y%
                    • 05 Jun 2019

                    Nice design!
                    I'd love to see another punch hole for the earpiece, and two on the bottom for the stereo speaker and the microphone.

                    Oh, oh! And a hole for the in-display finger print scanner, and please make it perfectly centered!

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                      • Anonymous
                      • 0xU
                      • 05 Jun 2019

                      To bad Jack is dead for ZTE. Guess the us was right to ban them after all.

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                        • 05 Jun 2019

                        Anonymous, 05 Jun 2019Audio/Video files are stored digitally on the device, and B... moreEarbuds can't due to physical limitations. It'll be very uncomfortable and heavy. Big headphones are another different history. Earbuds with high quality sound need all the space for the speakers and use the cable to connect a big power supply and an external quality DAC.

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                          • Anonymous
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                          • 05 Jun 2019

                          Anonymous, 05 Jun 2019We have told you a thousand times in a a thousand posts. Bl... moreAudio/Video files are stored digitally on the device, and Blue Tooth transfers the data digitally over the air, it is pretty much lossless. If the Blue Tooth headphone has a good Digital to Analog converter and good power output, theoretically it should be better than or equal to a wired headphone in terms of sound quality.

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                            • AnonD-731363
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                            • 05 Jun 2019

                            Love the Community, 05 Jun 2019Ah, it's the No Jack Shill again. Your shills will not brai... moreMan shill and get real shill.
                            Blluetooth and wireless is the future.
                            Things of the past should remain in history and history books.

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                              • 05 Jun 2019

                              Love the Community, 05 Jun 2019No jack, no buy. Plain and simple. Even if there's a dual p... moreWhy would studio guys make music on their phones? If you are doing it serious then be serious and use proper equipment.
                              For regular phone users bluetooth headphones are more than enough and it is future as you can see.

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                                • Anonymous
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                                • 05 Jun 2019

                                Dude , 05 Jun 2019Bunch of i diots. No one wants holes in their display.lol get real, your OPINION is not law.

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                                  • 05 Jun 2019

                                  AnonD-731363, 05 Jun 2019Man its called wifi or Bluetooth. Ah, it's the No Jack Shill again. Your shills will not brainwash them to mediocrity.

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • Kxu
                                    • 05 Jun 2019

                                    Anonymous, 05 Jun 2019We have told you a thousand times in a a thousand posts. Bl... moreFoolish excuse comment about quality. Claming you are audiophiles, or all of u are studio artists. Fact is casual people are not affected much, companies saw that.

                                    There is still usb c earphone, should you not like bluetooth.
                                    There is such thing as wireless charging. Reverse charging etc.

                                    The only valid excuse you jack lovers can give is. You spent too much on old tech earphones.. now feeling the pain. Or you cant charge and listen at the same time.

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                                      • AnonD-731363
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                                      • 05 Jun 2019

                                      Anonymous, 05 Jun 2019We have told you a thousand times in a a thousand posts. Bl... moreOnly because some audiophiles says so it doesnt mean it can be true.
                                      Until you dont try all existing blluetooth and wireless device you cant say where one of them is not better than wired ones.
                                      Apple killed jack long time ago.
                                      Samsung doing it now with note series.
                                      And audiophiles use computers, laptops notebooks not phone for making the sound and do rest of their work.
                                      Your statement is completely wrong.

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • HB3
                                        • 05 Jun 2019

                                        AnonD-731363, 05 Jun 2019Man its called wifi or Bluetooth. We have told you a thousand times in a a thousand posts. Bluetooth is never as good as the jack. We audio audiophiles prefer jack for a reason. High quality headphones with jack are far superior than bluetooth.

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