Ming-Chi Kuo: All three 2020 iPhones will have 5G

29 July 2019
The first 5G iPhones will likely come with Qualcomm modems.

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Chrove, 30 Jul 2019Very well put, I really should look into this "mmWave", thi... moreThanks.
You should. It's a very interesting topic. Can't wait for the worldwide rollout

    Huawei already has 5G phones and so does Samsung.
    So Apple is late here...

    But 5G is just getting rolled out, and it will take time till 2021 in developed countries, and it might not even arrive to some places by 2023.

    My country still does not have LTE (or 4G) everywhere. And most carriers only cover large cities with LTE.
    So, for someone like me, buying 5G phone in 2019 would just be waste of money. Where Apple generally has issues, since they are not offering nearly enough for their pricing.

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      GAMIRSFM, 29 Jul 2019In 2020? as always... Apple is late to the party.Well buying a 5G phone in 2019 isn't even worth it since the infrastructure is just at it's beginning. Being late is not a disadvantage in this case

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        GAMIRSFM, 29 Jul 2019In 2020? as always... Apple is late to the party.It's not like 5G is widespread or even a standard yet so I wouldn't say that they're late to the party

          Galaxy Note 10 Pro, 29 Jul 2019Yes, you can expect 5G around 2021(November 2020) ......not... moreand they call apple the future of technology (wait!!what!!)

            Huawei : Apple's 5G is too late
            Apple : You're just early

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              • 30 Jul 2019

              Intel modem . welldone.

                BigBonKawk, 29 Jul 2019I'm guessing you probably do not know the differences betwe... moreVery well put, I really should look into this "mmWave", this is the first time I heard it.
                Thank you for this.

                  Galaxy Note 10 Pro, 29 Jul 2019Mid ranger buyers do not care about the nuances of the tech... moreI'm guessing you probably do not know the differences between the two technologies and that is why you are calling it just 'nuances'. It is very different ala one modem having FDD bands but their operator supports just TDD bands of 4G/LTE. Certain large cities will deploy only mmWave to cater to the humongous traffic in a concentrated area while in more rural areas sub-6 Ghz will be deployed. Unless your phone's modem supports mmWave, you won't be able to get true 5G. Just like many cheap Chinese phones do not have the LTE bands to fully function in several western countries, it will be the same with 5G. Apple's LTE and wifi speeds are slower only because they use Intel modems but having dissolved their legal battle with Qualcomm, they can easily use their expensive modems as well as utilise Qualcomm's patents to develop their own modems after having bought Intel's modem division.
                  As for the processors, calling it a smoke screen is so ridiculous considering that it is due to their superiority over any other ARM based processors gives them the edge to support their devices for so long (at least 4 years) after they have been released.
                  From your username, it is clear you hate Apple, but unlike you, some of us are interested in the tech irrespective of the company.

                    In 2020? as always... Apple is late to the party.

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                      • 29 Jul 2019

                      And will iPhones have USB-C one day or never ? Lightning is slower than USB-C for charging and data transfer

                        BigBonKawk, 29 Jul 2019Those mid-rangers will probably use the sub-6 GHz 5G and no... moreMid ranger buyers do not care about the nuances of the tech...they look at 5G and that's it, they will be ready to pay the same money that they pay for 4G or LTE etc...if Qualcomm doesn't give the tech for affordable prices, too bad, they only will miss the opportunity to make money while consumers move forward with the available 5G tech....as such Apple LTE speed and WiFi speed are sub-par compared to flagships across the board. Their processors seem to out perform others only to create smoke screen from their inferior network tech....

                          Galaxy Note 10 Pro, 29 Jul 2019Yes, you can expect 5G around 2021(November 2020) ......not... moreThose mid-rangers will probably use the sub-6 GHz 5G and not mmWave. Do you think Qualcomm will sell their expensive modems for cheap to these cheap manufacturers? Besides. mmWave 5G will probably be available in major cities only as it is very expensive for telecom companies to install the required equipments where the user density will be very low.

                            Yes, you can expect 5G around 2021(November 2020) ......not bad for slow moving train....by the time many mid-rangers will have 5G 1/4 of the price....

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                              Love the Community, 29 Jul 2019People in 2007 - People buy iPhones to be hipster and fight... moreI know you mean BlackBerry and Symbian

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                                sub-6GHz is way more useful than mmWave because it actually have coverage instead of half a city block and outdoors only.

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                                  Love the Community, 29 Jul 2019People in 2007 - People buy iPhones to be hipster and fight... more2007- there was no android

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                                    Duck of death, 29 Jul 2019Reasons to buy a 2019 iPhone: You're hellbent on getting a... morePeople in 2007 - People buy iPhones to be hipster and fight against mainstream norms like Android and Symbian.

                                    People in 2011 - Present - They buy it for clout.

                                      Reasons to buy a 2019 iPhone:
                                      You're hellbent on getting a "new" phone that looks and feels virtually identical to the 2018 and 2017 models, without any future proofing hardware.
                                      Classic Apple.

                                        matt00112233, 29 Jul 2019Knowing how Apple has become slow to upgrade with new techn... moreThat's never been Apple's strategy though. Once they agree on using a standard, all their Phones come with it.