Alleged Redmi 8 appears on TENAA with full specs
- Kangal
- u44
- 28 Jun 2020
Kangal, 19 Aug 2019But you're going about this all wrong. As you increase scre... moreHere's an update:
After careful consideration, I truly think the BEST phone, is the one that's actually in one of three categories. And it is up to the user, to decide which category/personality they are, and hence which device suits their usecase, wants, needs best. My analogy is to cars, as it is pretty on point.
-Think of one of these "Best Category" as like a Porsche 911.... its sleek, beautiful, fast, but uncomfortable to sit and lacks many features. Yet it is the dream car for some people.
-For others the "Best Category" is the Jeep Wrangler, its tough, solid, easy to service but the ride is noisy and parking can be difficult. Basically the polar-opposite to the Porsche. That's the dream car of some people, especially that want to "drive it till it dies/keep this for life" attitude.
-Then somewhere in-between as "Best Category" there's the Subaru Forester. It's not quite rugged but not quite sleek, but it drives comfortably and parks easily. For others, this is their best car, it ticks the essential boxes and isn't being pretentious.
Device One: (JEEP) Rugged, with Maximum Features
200 grams and 119 x 81 x 9.1mm dimensions
5.11 inch (106 x 75mm) screen size
82.40% Screen to Body ratio (Slim bezels)
A7-paper sized aspect ratio 12.7:9 (like IMAX/Old TV)
2048 x 1448 (491 ppi) RGBW LCD-IPS (no burn-in)
60Hz Refresh Rate (much better battery life)
+1,000 nits HDR10+ enabled
Display Square Corners
Uni-symmetrical design (10mm forehead, 3mm bottom)
Symmetrical Left-Right Thin Bezels (3mm each)
Sensors and Large Selfie inside the forehead bezel
Front-firing boom monospeaker (doubles as earpiece)
Side-mounted fingerprint scanner (with HR-BP monitor)
Power button, plus three programmable buttons
Single Large camera (attachable lenses for ultrawide, macro, zoom)
DualSIM, microSD slot, and IrDa blaster
ThunderBolt-3 port, and QuadDAC 3.5mm Headphone Jack
Best Support for External Dock, Charging, HDMI, Ethernet, Aux, and Host-OTG
Modularity with Rear-Pogo pins (magnetically snaps on, keyboard or gamepad)
Rugged marketing photographs
Padded corner and Non-slip Textured exterior overall (no case!)
Thick (9.1mm) phone body (front, side, back)
Sideframe of Aluminium
Frontplate of Gorilla Glass 6
Backplate of Aerospace-grade Polycarbonate (tough and shock-absorbing)
Protection via Flat Tempered Glass for front, no protection required for rear (3M Skin)
Non-submersible (IP66) Splash resistance
5,119mAh User Removable battery
Healthy-Battery Charging (20W)
Regular Density Internals, Modular Design (Screen, Camera, Speaker, USB/3.5mm Ports)
Jolla SailFish OS (but can flash Android or Alternate OS)
Probably retails for USD $719 ??
Device Two: (Subaru) Reliable, with Balanced Practicality
180 grams and 145 x 80 x 8.0mm dimensions
6.02 inch (133 x 75mm) screen size
86.00% Screen to Body ratio (Thin bezels)
Aspect ratio 16:9 (like YouTube/New TV)
2560 x 1440p (488 ppi) IGZO (most accurate)
120Hz Refresh Rate (fluid animations)
1,000 nits HDR10 supported
Display Rounded Corners
Semi-Symmetrical Top-Bottom Slim Bezels (6mm each)
Symmetrical Left-Right Thin Bezels (2.5mm each)
Sensors and Regular Selfie embedded inside bezels
Front-firing stereo loudspeakers
Standard Rear fingerprint sensor
Symmetrical/Reversible side buttons (Power, Volume Up, Volume Down, Camera)
Double Main camera (symmetrical, can create 3D-recordings)
NanoSIM, microSD slot, no IrDa blaster
USB 3.1-TypeC, and Regular 3.5mm Headphone Jack
Standard Support for HDMI, Host-OTG, and Connections
Handheld Console with dedicated JoyCon physical attachment (pocketable gamepad)
Standard marketing renders
Matte and chamfered exterior overall
Regular (8mm) phone body (front, side, back)
Sideframe of Stainless Steel
Frontplate of Gorilla Glass 6
Backplate of Anodised Aluminium (scratch-resistant 7000-series)
Protection via 2.5D Tempered Glass for front, optional Bumper Case for back
Submersible IP68 shallow waterproofing
4,800mAh non-removable battery (refurbishable/screwed in)
Balanced Fast Charging (30W)
High Density Internals, Semi-Modular Design (Screen, USB port, etc etc)
Stock AndroidOne OS (Custom ROM ready)
Probably retails for USD $800 ??
Device Three: (porsche) Futuristic, with Maximum Style
179 grams and 179 x 79 x 7.9mm dimensions
7.49 inch (175 x 75mm) screen size
92.50% Screen to Body ratio (No bezels)
Aspect ratio 21:9 (like Cinema/Movies)
5040 x 2160 (732 ppi) Pentile SAM-OLED (deepest blacks)
144Hz Active Sync display (smoothest animation)
794 nits Mobile-HDR compatible
Display Rounded Corners
Almost No Bezels on Top-Bottom (2mm each)
Almost No Bezels Left-Right Sides (2mm each)
Underscreen dual selfie camera
Vibrational Face Mono Speaker
Ultrasonic fingerprint scanner
No buttons, minimalistic sides
Triple rear camera (ultrawide, regular, zoom)
eSIM, no microSD, no IrDa blaster
USB 3.0-TypeC, but NO Headphone Jack
Limited Support for Video out, OTG, and Connections
Home Console via Xbox One controller connection (needs purse/backpack, not pocketable)
Styled marketing renders
Shiny and curved exterior overall
Sideframe of Titanium Alloy
Frontplate of transparent flat plastic (shockproof)
Backplate of transparent flat plastic (shockproof)
Thin (6mm) phone body (front to back), with thick (8mm) sideframe
Protection via 2.5D Curved Tempered Glass for back and front
Enhanced IP69 (ATM 5) waterproofing
4,179mAh non-removable battery (glued in)
Convenient Super Fast Charging (60W)
Maximum Density Internals, monolithic design (non-refurbishable)
Skinned FlymeOS Android (unlockable bootloader)
Probably retails for USD $947 ??
I suggest you compare each device line-by-line, to note the subtle and extreme changes. Let me know if you want any renders. And please REPLY BACK with which option YOU prefer from the three categories, cheers! : )
- Kangal
- RN8
- 19 Aug 2019
LG Superfan, 19 Aug 2019With 16:9 the biggee the phones gets the wider it is say Ph... moreBut you're going about this all wrong. As you increase screen size, you increase both the width and the length of the screen regardless of the aspect ratio. Now a phone that is more-squarish will increase in both axis more squarely, and a more rectangular-phone will increase in both axis more rectangular-ily. There's no magic ratio where one axis increases different to another, because if it did, then the aspect ratio would change.
Ergonomics is affected more-so with the phone's portrait-width, so if you want to compare different aspect ratios this factor much be controlled/equal. That means keeping the screen portrait-width equal, and observing the changes in the length. Then you realise how the top and bottom portions of the screen are wasted within the software. Not just videos and games, but the majority of Apps do not scale properly. And even when they do, you still can't disregard the actual increase in the phone's dimensions. With that said, we have to also keep in mind that the length cannot be too large either, or it may not fit into a Standard Sized pocket of Men's Denim Jeans. Women's pants don't usually have pockets, and they instead carry purses, so they can carry larger tablets or phones if desired.
If you're interested here's how "Large Phones" would compare:
16:9 - 5.94in - 74mm x 132mm = 9,727mm² (Phone size: 78mm x 142mm)
17:9 - 6.23in - 74mm x 140mm = 10,355mm² (Phone size: 78mm x 150mm)
18:9 - 6.51in - 74mm x 148mm = 10,937mm² (Phone size: 78mm x 158mm)
19:9 - 6.81in - 74mm x 156mm = 11,575mm² (Phone size: 78mm x 166mm)
20:9 - 7.10in - 74mm x 164mm = 12,171mm² (Phone size: 78mm x 174mm)
21:9 - 7.40in - 74mm x 173mm = 12,792mm² (Phone size: 78mm x 183mm)
Previously I compared "Medium Phones" as such:
16:9 - 5.22in - 65mm x 116mm = 7,512mm² (Phone size: 69mm x 126mm)
17:9 - 5.47in - 65mm x 123mm = 7,982mm² (Phone size: 69mm x 133mm)
18:9 - 5.72in - 65mm x 130mm = 8,443mm² (Phone size: 69mm x 140mm)
19:9 - 5.98in - 65mm x 137mm = 8,926mm² (Phone size: 69mm x 147mm)
20:9 - 6.24in - 65mm x 145mm = 9,401mm² (Phone size: 69mm x 155mm)
21:9 - 6.50in - 65mm x 152mm = 9,869mm² (Phone size: 69mm x 162mm)
If you're interested in "Small Phones" here's how they could compare:
16:9 - 4.42in - 55mm x 98mm = 5,386mm² (Phone size: 59mm x 108mm)
17:9 - 4.63in - 55mm x 104mm = 5,719mm² (Phone size: 59mm x 114mm)
18:9 - 4.84in - 55mm x 110mm = 6,045mm² (Phone size: 59mm x 120mm)
19:9 - 5.06in - 55mm x 116mm = 6,391mm² (Phone size: 59mm x 126mm)
20:9 - 5.28in - 55mm x 122mm = 6,731mm² (Phone size: 59mm x 132mm)
21:9 - 5.50in - 55mm x 128mm = 7,066cm² (Phone size: 59mm x 138mm)
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- LG Superfan
- sSy
- 19 Aug 2019
Kangal, 19 Aug 201916:9 is NOT wider, why do people keep bringing up this myth... moreWith 16:9 the biggee the phones gets the wider it is say Phone A with 6" 16:9 phone and Phone B with 6.5" 18:9 both will have same width but latter being taller will show more more content in portrait mode the orientation which we use in almost all scenario except gaming and movie watching, with Google now supporting odd ratios natively games and easily adapt to those ratios meaning there will be no wasted spaces as far as movies go there is no work around and for 21:9 its good for movies too but as I said previously it does not look as good
- Kangal
- RN8
- 19 Aug 2019
LG Superfan, 18 Aug 201916:9 is wide and wider phones are less pocketable and 21:9 ... more16:9 is NOT wider, why do people keep bringing up this myth? Don't trust the marketing.
The way it works is, you have a compact 16:9 phone.
If you want to make it into a 18:9-to-20:9 phone, you actually add more phone and screen to the top and bottom. Now its no longer as compact, it is physically longer. Yet, the screen size is the same for a 16:9 video.
Now if you go for a 21:9 aspect ratio, the phone becomes even larger.
However, you now have the added benefit of watching 21:9 movies (there's plenty). So at least this trade-off is justified from an engineering perspective.
I personally wouldn't mind a 17:9 phone, if that extra screen space was used for the rounded corners, notch, and Bar for Navigation and Notification. This would make it as compact as a 16:9 phone because you have fundamentally shifted the bezels to screen. When you move up beyond that shape, this shift becomes less equal and more exaggerated. And things get further distorted if you introduced curved edges, so let's not even get into that.
I don't want to sound dogmatic, but I will try to prove the point using Mathematics:
Phone 1)
1600 x 900 screen
5.2 inch screen (115mm × 65mm = 7,454mm²)
Side bezels 2mm each
Top/Bottom bezels 5mm each
Total Phone size: 125mm x 69mm
Screen-to-Body ratio: 86.7%
16:9 Video-to-Body ratio: 86.7% (MOST common)
21:9 Movie-to-Body ratio: 64.8% (common)
Weighted Bezel Ratio: ~80%
Phone 2)
1700 x 900 screen
5.4 inch screen (121mm × 65mm = 7,779mm²)
Side bezels 2mm each
Top/Bottom bezels 5mm each
Total Phone size: 131mm x 69mm
Screen-to-Body ratio: 87.0%
16:9 Video-to-Body ratio: 82.7% (MOST common)
21:9 Movie-to-Body ratio: 69.6% (common)
Weighted Bezel Ratio: ~75%
Phone 3)
1800 x 900 screen
5.7 inch screen (130mm × 65mm = 8,384mm²)
Side bezels 2mm each
Top/Bottom bezels 5mm each
Total Phone size: 140mm x 69mm
Screen-to-Body ratio: 87.5%
16:9 Video-to-Body ratio: 77.4% (MOST common)
21:9 Movie-to-Body ratio: 72.9% (common)
Weighted Bezel Ratio: ~70%
Phone 4)
1900 x 900 screen
6.0 inch screen (138mm × 65mm = 8,986mm²)
Side bezels 2mm each
Top/Bottom bezels 5mm each
Total Phone size: 148mm x 69mm
Screen-to-Body ratio: 87.8%
16:9 Video-to-Body ratio: 73.2% (MOST common)
21:9 Movie-to-Body ratio: 79.1% (common)
Weighted Bezel Ratio: ~65%
Phone 5)
2,000 x 900 screen
6.2 inch screen (144mm × 65mm = 9,281mm²)
Side bezels 2mm each
Top/Bottom bezels 5mm each
Total Phone size: 154mm x 69mm
Screen-to-Body ratio: 88.1%
16:9 Video-to-Body ratio: 70.3% (MOST common)
21:9 Movie-to-Body ratio: 82.1% (common)
Weighted Bezel Ratio: ~65%
Phone 6)
2,100 x 900 screen
6.5 inch screen (152mm × 65mm = 9,869cm²)
Side bezels 2mm each
Top/Bottom bezels 5mm each
Total Phone size: 162mm x 69mm
Screen-to-Body ratio: 88.4%
16:9 Video-to-Body ratio: 66.9% (MOST common)
21:9 Movie-to-Body ratio: 88.4% (common)
Weighted Bezel Ratio: ~75%
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- LG Superfan
- vxy
- 18 Aug 2019
Kangal, 18 Aug 2019My point is 19:9 is sub-par. It's too short of 21:9 conten... moreAnd I agree with slim bezel design like meizu
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- LG Superfan
- vxy
- 18 Aug 2019
Shadocx, 18 Aug 2019To me 18:9 is perfect because 18 is the double of 9, but th... moreI agree but 19:9 ratio is mostly used on notch phones, hide the notch and you get 18:9
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- LG Superfan
- vxy
- 18 Aug 2019
Kangal, 18 Aug 2019My point is 19:9 is sub-par. It's too short of 21:9 conten... more16:9 is wide and wider phones are less pocketable and 21:9 is too long for some and it doesnt look good imo 18:9 is best
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- Anonymous
- Y7u
- 18 Aug 2019
The hardware specs are horrendous and the design looks old and boring. The only good thing about the Redmi 8 is the 5000mAh battery lol.
- Kangal
- RN8
- 18 Aug 2019
LG Superfan, 17 Aug 201916:9 is old and 21:9 is too long for some so 19:9 is fineMy point is 19:9 is sub-par.
It's too short of 21:9 content and it's too long/wasteful for 16:9 content.
Companies should stick to 16:9 screen to produce more compact phones, or step-up to a 21:9 screen to satisfy the trend (keeping up with Joneses) while improving cinematic viewing. And they should make the Selfie-camera either under-screen, or place it in a Slim Bezel (see Meizu 16s) which also houses the front-firing stereo loudspeakers.
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- Shadocx
- 33D
- 18 Aug 2019
LG Superfan, 17 Aug 201916:9 is old and 21:9 is too long for some so 19:9 is fineTo me 18:9 is perfect because 18 is the double of 9, but that's too 2017-2018 I guess.
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- Anonymous
- Njj
- 17 Aug 2019
MasTomi, 17 Aug 2019Redmi.... This is 2019...please... Ditch 2/16 variant. ... moreIt's better to have more options why would uou wt them to ditch 2/16 having three versions is better than 2 versions
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- Anonymous
- Njj
- 17 Aug 2019
Anonymous, 17 Aug 2019What's wrong with the market these days? If this phone c... moreOnly chills cares about these features
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- Anonymous
- Njj
- 17 Aug 2019
zulllio, 17 Aug 2019redmi 8 has mediatek p22 No sd632 is more powerful than p22(which is equal to sd439 in redmi 7a) i don't think that its successor will habe weaker soc
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- Sun Sand
- U{7
- 17 Aug 2019
It's nice to have USB C on the Redmi Note 7.
Plse lets have USB C on all forthcoming Redmi's. As well as 5000 mAh battery ,notification Led & triple card slot!!
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- Anonymous
- XFT
- 17 Aug 2019
Anonymous, 17 Aug 2019sd625?Sd665
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- Anonymous
- vry
- 17 Aug 2019
These monthly releases again.
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- IpsDisplay
- ri0
- 17 Aug 2019
Anonymous, 17 Aug 2019Why still a 720p screen. We know the Redmi is the lower spe... moreAlright head of consumer statistics department
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- zulllio
- snP
- 17 Aug 2019
Anonymous, 17 Aug 2019sd625?redmi 8 has mediatek p22
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- WOrld1
- H8@
- 17 Aug 2019
iAmNeek, 17 Aug 2019Another Redmi 7....same specsCan be, but having 1000mah more is a big bonus to have future battery phone with 5k battery