Huawei expects a $10 billion dip in smartphone revenues due to US ban

23 August 2019
The new figure is much lower than the initial estimates.

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S Yu, 26 Aug 2019""US wants to be clean of Huawei". by pressuring allies?" ... moreYou lost the point tbh. Every nation must respect other nation's sovereignty. By pressuring, they are basically indirectly dictating these nation's policies. What's worse, they are guilty of the same wrong doing that they are accusing the Chinese of.I dont like the chinese govnt actions but these move by US made me hate the Us government even more. Just showing the true americal colors and Im not proud of that. Im fil-am.

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    realitychecker, 26 Aug 2019"US wants to be clean of Huawei". by pressuring allies? Fun... more""US wants to be clean of Huawei". by pressuring allies?"
    Yes by pressuring allies. From US to the UK it takes one segment of optical cable to be Huawei's for the Chinese to listen in, and interestingly the UK has reached a compromise by keeping Huawei out of crucial communication routes but keeping them in the game.

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      AnonD-122899, 26 Aug 2019What so different in China? Yes they don't have and do not ... more"Yes they don't have and do not need any of the Google or Facebook services. But their current substitutes are just on par with the US counterparts."
      Entirely ridiculous. See how many scams there are on Baidu, a magnitude more than Google, not to mention they walled off Wikipedia, good luck finding comprehensive and unbiased information on Baidu's counterpart!
      "And that's the control that put China in safe hands"
      Stands, in general, for some of the major cities, but human trafficking and rape are very well live in China, as are pyramid schemes which for the most part are violent.
      "When you are having a population blooming issues, it's time for the government to control the birth rates."
      Sorry but China is at least a decade too late in reversing its One Child Policy and the current birth rate stands at about 1.7, combined with housing pressure and the cultural effect of the policy, it's projected to drop like a rock down to around 1 in the coming decade or two.
      "Your comments shows that you have no idea how the world works sadly."
      This rather applies to you.

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        Dazzler, 26 Aug 2019Look at your own statement. This is how double standard bli... more“u didnt even know how Gpu Turbo works”
        Why on earth would I need to know how GPU Turbo works? I asked you to explain how, according to you, they didn’t lie. It’s abundantly clear how much effect it exerts from tests done on a variety of workloads, and that is *in the single digits*, and on top of that, *only in a few select titles*. What doesn’t matter is how it works, simply because they lied about the performance, not the mechanism! Oh, and again Mali’s render quality on the same game is worse so it’s even less significant compared to Adreno.
        https://www.anandtech.com/show/13285/huawei-gpu-turbo-investigation
        “They analyze about it on the built-in Gpu Turbo device, not with or without the patch”
        So what? The two devices used performed almost identically with the same chipset in the first place, then one has the firmware and one doesn’t, so the variable is obviously the firmware. The so-called 60% increase in performance IS A LIE and you will not get anywhere near the numbers Huawei claimed no matter what trick you pull.
        “Experience it yourself”
        In a word, NO. Keep your laughable placebo effect to yourself.
        Anandtech makes it clear that “we use synthetic benchmarks to determine the veracity of new features for a good reason – they are industry standards and well understood”
        With their industry status, I’ll take their word over the subjective experience of a shill like yours anytime.
        “Moon Mode.”
        As I said I’ve already seen the proof of many that have succeeded in triggering the texture swap, your failures means nothing if not your incompetence or that Huawei has already patched the behavior without apologizing.

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          jiangqiushi, 26 Aug 2019this should be said to the US. And now their president can ... moreLudicrous.
          Trump can't. He tweeted about it which is only a bluff, nothing of substance whereas China regularly brags about independent R&D all the time, all state-funded.
          Moreover, reality is the hard proof that the US doesn't care. e.g. The US hasn't had a telecoms infrastructure provider for two decades IIRC, the majority of the infrastructure is built and maintained by Ericsson, which is Swedish, OTOH China only most recently allowed foreign involvement with the existing infrastructure almost entirely from Huawei and ZTE.
          There's no debate here that China is a closed market, previously entirely through legislative means but gradually moving towards economic means, but still closed off and the Party likes to keep it that way, despite what they claim on CCTV.

            AverageUser, 26 Aug 2019Same how China doesn't want to depend on Facebook and Googl... more"US wants to be clean of Huawei". by pressuring allies? Funny, I dont recall China pressuring other countries to abandon google, facebook and other US related techs... In the end, we know what this is all about. Business.

              realitychecker, 26 Aug 2019Then why focus the privacy criticism on this particular com... moreSame how China doesn't want to depend on Facebook and Google - US wants to be clean of Huawei. And lobbying is to spread the influence.

              Not gonna lie, US government is just looking their own profit too.

                AverageUser, 26 Aug 2019It is not about race, it's about my own privacy actually. ... moreThen why focus the privacy criticism on this particular company?Surely this isnt the only Chinese smartphone maker out there. Besides, privacy nowadays is no longer a luxury we can afford. So if you are so concerned of privacy, better not have a phone and gizmos at all. And my point is on the US govnt side lobbying and pressuring other countries (which this entire article is about) btw, now defend that.

                  realitychecker, 26 Aug 2019I dont think so. Im not defending the chinese tbh. All I'm ... moreIt is not about race, it's about my own privacy actually.

                  I know that everything I do on the internet is monitored, but China is on a whole new level. And I don't feel comfortable giving those people access to my data and personal info (not comfortable with USA either, but it's lesser evil).
                  By China's law, Huawei is forced to help them spy on you if CCP asks them to do so, and you think that they aren't?
                  And you think that both of them (Huawei and CCP) aren't making money on your data?
                  Google and Facebook provenly are, for example, I won't deny that. Huawei is running Android so Google is spying on you, but probably CCP does too.
                  There were reports of Huawei smartphones intercepting calls and texts, there were even the recent incidents in Africa...

                    AverageUser, 26 Aug 2019I guess people of HongKong are then protesting for days wit... moreI dont think so. Im not defending the chinese tbh. All I'm sayin is that one cannot be defined by their race. Something some of you here should take note of. What is happening to HK is unspeakable, and you guys hating on a Chinese tech because of where it's from(from a technological point of view) is just as same.(Bringing up HK issue just proved my point on how ppl here just continue on china china china argument if they have nothing else to criticize to the subject matter) Tbh, Im more displeased with US lobbying and pressuring countries here and there to abandon a company they accused of something they themselves are guilty of. If there's one thing I hate more than the Chinese govnt on HK issue, its the the hypocrites at US White house.

                      realitychecker, 26 Aug 2019Actually, my mom and dad now lives in UK, my elder brother ... moreI guess people of HongKong are then protesting for days without a reason...

                      Or, maybe your family in China is scared to say what they really think...

                        AnonD-122899, 26 Aug 2019What so different in China? Yes they don't have and do not ... moreSad thing is that you have no idea what freedom is...

                        Let your government make life choices for you?
                        Having your "social credit score" down because you said you don't like something your government did and then you're being stripped off of doing many normal things like a normal citizen, just for saying your opinion?

                        Yeah, sounds like a great place to live... where people do good things not because they want to do them, but not to be punished.

                        Literally becoming government's pets...

                          realitychecker, 26 Aug 2019Calm down pls. Lol. Dont let them get on your nerves. Thats... moreNo worries, i am calm now lol.

                          Yup bring out emotional feelings about some country by became racist is the baddest thing. Sad there are still people like this in the world.

                            Dazzler, 26 Aug 2019I've replied to you numerous times on various thread, corre... moreCalm down pls. Lol. Dont let them get on your nerves. Thats what most guys do here. For all we know, we are just talkin to some kids. They don't like the brand, fine. Not a big loss. What I dont like here is when someone drags the china china china argument. Not only hater, but racist too from where Im standing. Reality check for them, those are ppl too, you know.. living in this planet.

                              Dealler, 26 Aug 2019As I see here, every brand has its own fanboys, but Huawei&... moreWhats more annoying are fanboys that made the wrong claims, no matter from which brand. If the statements are true, i wont deny.

                              There is no perfect smartphone, got their own pros & cons. To be honest, some of the guy here thinks their favourite brand got zero cons. Worst, bashing it on almost every thread with lack of knowledge & lame excuse.

                                AverageUser, 26 Aug 2019If you want to tell me something, then do that directly, an... moreI've replied to you numerous times on various thread, corrected your wrong assumption with no answer. Either u dont have the answer or forgot because of too many spamming bashing huawei here & there.

                                Anyway, here it is;

                                'lies on benchmarks'
                                - On the 3d mark app, yes its considered as 'cheating' as breaking their terms & laws for using Performance Mod on the app. Main point is the score numbers applied on real usage, therefore newer Huawei separate that Performance Mod. And when gaming, the Performance Mod auto triggered, match the so called 'cheating' benchmark score. So if i can experience it, does it cheat?

                                'DSLR instead of phone camera to lies about their OS and the list goes on'
                                - So u think Samsung's camera ad dont do it before got caught? Please, i can see it by my naked eyes, be it on every branding (Huawei, Apple, etc.) After the A9 faking bandwagon got caught, every newer Samsung ad put small watermark 'for illustration purpose' which means they still keep faking it but with excuses. To be honest, thats how marketing works, and i never fall for it. But u seems ok when it comes to Samsung.
                                - Care to elaborate about OS lies and so on?

                                'first 7nm chipset when it was Apple & beaten A12 in speed'
                                - Well they announce it first, but Apple launch it a month earlier.
                                - What they meant are AI management, which is ahead than others on that time. So u care about benchmarking numbers? Wait for it.

                                "Best camera on a smartphone" yet it makes terrible video'
                                - Dont be exaggerate. Hats off to Samsung for superior on that regards but Huawei also excels on 1080p. It is far from terrible. Plus they seriously improving it on next Mate 30, maybe will be better than any Samsung.

                                "Phone of the year" and yet they aren't phone of the year, but they self proclaim themself shamelessly'
                                - Whats this then? Self claiming?
                                - https://en.annahar.com/article/995930-huawei-p30-pro-won-the-best-smartphone-2019-award-at-the-mwc-in-shanghai
                                - https://www.t3.com/news/t3-awards-2019-huawei-pro-p30-pro-wins-the-tech-innovation-award
                                - https://www.tipa.com/en-en/awards/huawei-p30-pro
                                - https://www.eisa.eu/awards/huawei-p30-pro/
                                - And today, best smartphone camera, announced by Forbes.

                                'most likely are spying'
                                - U said it yourself. Most likely. No proof. Just like Muricans does, as if they dont spy on u.


                                  Dealler, 26 Aug 2019As I see here, every brand has its own fanboys, but Huawei&... moreThe most annoying fanboy i have ever encountered so far in gsmarena is that of xiaomi tbh.

                                    As I see here, every brand has its own fanboys, but Huawei´s are by far the most annoying ones. Even more than Apple sheeps, which is a strong statement by itself. Makes me hate the brand for no other reason.

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                                      AnonD-122899, 26 Aug 2019What so different in China? Yes they don't have and do not ... moreThey were smart to ban it in China, without Android they cannot compete against foreign brands outside since Google & Facebook is in EVERYTHING! Rest of the world should ban them to prevent their monopoly in both biased search engine and on the monopoly they are about to gain in the phone market... Sooner or later even Apple might have to jump ship to Android due to the way Google screw everyone over! X-X

                                        AverageUser, 26 Aug 2019Would you rather live in USA or China? Social credit syste... moreActually, my mom and dad now lives in UK, my elder brother and sister has been living in China (we are not chinese okay, my mom is filipino while my dad is american) for many years now. One thing my siblings tell me is that China is so wrongly viewed by many. Guess they're right afterall.

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