Pixel 4 and 4 XL go official with 90Hz OLED screens and new telephoto cameras

15 October 2019
The wide and tele cameras will be backed by new image processing hardware and software. An S855 chipset and a new Pixel core will do the processing.

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AnonD-894375, 16 Oct 2019You are not understanding. I am not saying small sensor can... moreAI is nothing but a software trick. So hardware is hardware no software can beat hardware.

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    AnonD-894375, 16 Oct 2019You are not understanding. I am not saying small sensor can... moreNo not as good as large sensor. You are wrong

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      AnonD-706668, 16 Oct 2019Large sensor is large sensor no one can beat it You are not understanding. I am not saying small sensor can beat large sensor, but rather small sensor + AI can be as good as large sensor WITHOUT AI.

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        AnonD-894375, 16 Oct 2019Like I said, you can choose not to believe it. But this is ... moreYou made me laughter. A dslr can easily beat a so called smartphone camera in terms of lowlight Photography. Because large sensor capture more light than a smartphone camera sensor. A smartphone camera produces strong noise even at base ISO and a dslr can achieve clean image even at ISO 3200. So how you compare a dslr with a smartphone camera ?

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          AnonD-894375, 16 Oct 2019are you using the variable i state? pointless if you compar... moreLarge sensor is large sensor no one can beat it

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            AnonD-894375, 16 Oct 2019are you using the variable i state? pointless if you compar... moreI completed it with handheld shot not using tripod. I am not professional photographer but still I know how to take proper photo

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              Vegetaholic, 16 Oct 2019Computional photography is as gimmicks as AI, it gives you ... moreAbsolutely right

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                Vegetaholic, 16 Oct 2019Computional photography is as gimmicks as AI, it gives you ... moreLike I said, you can choose not to believe it. But this is my finding from comparing my dSLR to my k20 pro with gcam. You can say it give a false sense of details, but it is still more than accurate enough that 99% of the people will not realise except with compared side by side.
                At least this is the case for simple night scene with non-moving subject.

                I do not want to believe my $1000 dSLR is only as good as my new $400 smartphone, but that is the reality. Im not saying smartphone camera can replace dSLR, but under specific low light condition, they are comparable to dSLR

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                  AnonD-706668, 16 Oct 2019I don’t believe what you think. I have already compared Goo... moreare you using the variable i state? pointless if you compare to your d5200 mounted on a tripod, setting a long exposure. I had to hit iso6400, f2.8 and 1/13 just to achieve proper exposure. And yes, comparison is made with in-camera JPG as well

                    AnonD-894375, 16 Oct 2019You can choose to disbelieve it, but it is proven that the ... moreComputional photography is as gimmicks as AI, it gives you sense of elusion what software can fix everything and it can do shit in reality. Gives you flashy colors and brightness to look good on the screen. But when you put actually in proper big screen you see all the flaws of small sensors and incaple apertures, DSLR makes 1000 times better raw pictures without any conoutional nonsense, gives you as it is. Smartphones makers has no choice but to invent all kind of tricks just to fool clueless people

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                      aknsreddy, 16 Oct 2019Pixel phones are scamsI don’t know how much scam but Pixel phones take noisy photo even at base ISO it is universal truth.

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                        AnonD-894375, 16 Oct 2019You can choose to disbelieve it, but it is proven that the ... moreDon’t joke. Large sensor is large sensor

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                          Anonymous, 16 Oct 2019Can your Dslr beat the portability of mobile phone? 99% pp... moreHuh! Even my portable Sony DSC RX100 poin and shoot camera which has 1 inches camera sensor can easily beat your Google Pixel 4 in terms of image quality easily. My Sony DSC-RX100 is 100 % portable.

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                            Vegetaholic, 16 Oct 2019Stop comparing dslr with smartphones because it is stupid. ... moreYes you are absolutely right.

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                              AnonD-894375, 16 Oct 2019But have you tested it? I have! quality is comparable at ni... moreI don’t believe what you think. I have already compared Google Pixel 3 with Nikon D5200.

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                                Vegetaholic, 16 Oct 2019Stop comparing dslr with smartphones because it is stupid. ... moreYou can choose to disbelieve it, but it is proven that the modern smartphone camera AI image processing has become so good that the advantage of large sensor is just not as much. At least until camera manufacturers start to include this processing in their cameras

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                                  AnonD-706668, 16 Oct 2019Don’t need a full frame dslr. A dslr with APS-C sensor is m... moreCan your Dslr beat the portability of mobile phone?
                                  99% ppl don't carry around big bulky dslr cameras along with them.

                                    AnonD-894375, 16 Oct 2019But have you tested it? I have! quality is comparable at ni... moreStop comparing dslr with smartphones because it is stupid. DSLR are like mountain, and smartphones are your avarage mole hole in your garden. You cant litterally compete massive sensors and optics with tiny smartphone stuff, just stop, get your grip together

                                      Disastrous phones, when everybody trying to give you massive storage room high pixel high sensor cameras and insane performance, google gives you crappy hardware with wait for it.... radar system for almost 1000 dolars. Google just give up, you have no clue what are you doing

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                                        AnonD-706668, 16 Oct 2019Don’t need a full frame dslr. A dslr with APS-C sensor is m... moreBut have you tested it? I have! quality is comparable at night scene even when you pixel peep. dSLR still have the advantage of speed.. etc, but when it comes to static night shoot without use of additional equipment (tripod.. etc), smartphone are very comparable. dSLR have to up the ISO much more than smartphone due to the lack of AI processing. User with kit lens will be even worse of than my comparison as I am using f2.8 lens with OIS.

                                        As a dSLR user for over 10 years, I am both happy and sad that smartphone camera have come so far.