Samsung trademarks new “Bright Night” camera sensor for S11 series
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- 30 Nov 2019
Anonymous, 29 Nov 2019Except the f1.7 on tiny cellphone lens is not same same of ... moref1.7 is f1.7. The so-called equivalent f number you talk about affects the depth of view, not the shutter speed. For the same ISO, f1.7 on a smartphone and f1.7 on a camera will use the exact same shutter speed. Consumers do not have f1.7 lenses on their cameras, so they make do with higher ISO to achieve the same shutter speed.
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The last Oracle, 30 Nov 2019It's hardware solely because of the CFA and nothing else. T... moreI fully agree with you, very well said.
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Nick Tagataka, 30 Nov 2019It's hardware as you're simply adding up the light informat... moreIt's hardware solely because of the CFA and nothing else. The rest is Computational Photography Algorithms. Downscaling and Pixel combining actually improves all aspects of the photo. Also, if the processor were capable and if the device had the right type of algorithms, they could increase the colour depth (apart from improving noise, detail and colour information).
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THE-TRUTH-REVEALER, 30 Nov 2019I did not understand your comment and would like to enhance... moreIt's hardware as you're simply adding up the light information from 4 neighbouring pixels and treating them as information from 1 huge pixel... there's no supersampling or downscaling involved here, pixel binning is there to enhance the SNR and dynamic range. And that's the default readout mode for ALL Quad Bayer/Tetracell sensors.
Think it as this way: you're basically splitting 1 large pixel into 4 smaller ones with the same colour filter, which means you can't split it into 6 since that's not a square number. Technically you can split them into 9, but then it would be impossible to extract full resolution image without complex array conversion algorithms which destroy details, create wormy artifacts, increase noise and mess up the colours.
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Anonymous, 29 Nov 2019They struggle because most users do not have the bright ape... moreNo, that's simply due to the fact that smartphone cameras FAVOUR far lower ISO value and longer SS than dedicated cameras to achieve the same exposure, and are capable of reduce noise more efficiently using advanced NR algorithms and real time multi frame stacking which dedicated cameras cannot do because of their less powerful image processors.
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Anonymous, 29 Nov 2019No. Samsung will keep applying the heaviest NR among all ph... moreProbably that's where the high MP count could help the most - even after super aggressive noise reduction and sharpening, the photo would still look decent enough if you downscale it to lower resolution, say 10 or 12MP, and be better than what most other companies are offering with their 12MP/48MP cameras.
Though at this point I'm inclined to think that Samsung will revamp the processing algorithms from the ground up to utilise the full potential of the new sensor... At least that's what I *want to* believe.
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Anonymous, 29 Nov 201940MP exmor is exclusive for huawei. Also is too late to ma... moreSamsung has a Slim 40 MP module specifically designed for Periscope modules.
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THE-TRUTH-REVEALER, 30 Nov 2019I did not understand your comment and would like to enhance... moreDividing by 6 isn't a good idea. It won't have a square shape and making 12MP photo with a 108 MP isn't a good idea either. because 12MP can't hold much detail.
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Anonymous, 29 Nov 2019Sensor cannot work this way.
Just dividing by four.
It is... moreI did not understand your comment and would like to enhance my knowledge...why is combining 6MP or 9MP into 1MP a hardware process?
I would really like to know, because as far as I knew till now, a software algorithm combines 4 MP into 1, giving 12MP supersampled images from a 48MP sensor. Genuinely curious.
Also, I am not actually just dividing by 4. Dividing by 6 in this case: 108/6=18 MP, and 9 in this case: 108/9 = 12MP.
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Anonymous, 29 Nov 2019Oh yeah they did do better at making images have ayellow tint LOLThey don't have a yellow tint.
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Anonymous, 29 Nov 2019It's a huge sensor like the Mi Note 10, so will do fine in ... moreNo. Samsung will keep applying the heaviest NR among all phones to make texture as smooth as instagram requires.
Photographer told me you can print photos from few phones and will look decent for a phone. But not to print photos from samsung phones, because it will look awful.
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Anonymous, 29 Nov 2019S11 is pretty much gonna destroy the camera competition thi... moreThere are one rumor p40 procwill use 1/1.2" ...
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Well how much bright night will be?
Like Early morning?
Or Noon?
My friend has a Vivo phone...its photos are so awesome that...we took photos from it at time of Dawn but it was looking like we shot it in middle of the day in summers.
Simply Awesome to handle...
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Shanti Dope, 29 Nov 2019I don't get why it has to be 108MP high in resolution and b... moreIt's a huge sensor like the Mi Note 10, so will do fine in low light.
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- 29 Nov 2019
S11 is pretty much gonna destroy the camera competition this year unless Huawei pumps up some innovative camera.
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- 29 Nov 2019
I want this phone google pixel camera processing specially human subjects (colour,dynamic range,white balance,contrast,detailing) plus night time photography and it would be best phone of all time
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AnonD-754814, 29 Nov 2019With that sensor Huawei did better though. Oh yeah they did do better at making images have ayellow tint LOL
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Anonymous, 29 Nov 2019Cell phones will never be good at night. Even 1", micro 4/... moreObviously you've never seen $2,500+ great cameras on the market go against the IPhone 11pro and Google Pixel 4...Go check youtube and you might find some videos created. I'll wait......
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Honestly cant fault S10 night mode fantastic. Up the with my P20 pro.
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Anonymous, 29 Nov 2019This tech is to have more control of HDR. It was never mea... moreSince low light in smartphones is done by HDR and multi frame image data, it is absolutely necessary to have atleast one frame (or more of a non blur image with good exposure) that is perfectly usable. The quad pixel, ensures one can get brighter images without as slow shutter speeds as would be necessary. Also all three colours would have atleast 2 different brightness of the same colours, ensuring the wavelengths vater to different brightness levels (including one for much lower light levels), and also have the image with higher dynamic range. Since some of these high resolution sensors also have full readout upto 30fps, they combine both these processing methods and have a final image which is much higher on both dynamic range as well as better at low light.