Huawei's Kirin 1020 SoC tipped to have 50% better performance than the Kirin 990

13 December 2019
It will be based on the 5nm node and use Cortex-A78 cores.

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Unlikely this news is either fake or exaggerated.

ARM hasn't even announced the A78 core's details and Huawei is already working on it? Samsung Foundry, Arm and Synposys announced a collaboration, so if anyone has accesss to A78's architecture before it is announced, it would be Samsung. And that is perhaps why Samsung is dumping the inefficient Mongoose cores, and directly working at improving things by working with improving their SoCs with the best possible ARM core arrangement.

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    • Fmx
    • 13 Dec 2019

    No worry Trump will have new moves to harden Huawei's job next years

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      • Zigzag
      • YQP
      • 13 Dec 2019

      And qualcomm beat again with SD875 with good margin due to 5nm+EUV I think adreno 700 series beat it without breaking sweat.
      It would be over 50% performance gain I think , if not at least 30% gain but far ahead then Kirin next gen.
      Anyone know Exynos's AMD gpu beat qualcomm next gpu.

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        • Anonymous
        • J7R
        • 13 Dec 2019

        I've tried mate 8 and I'm using mate 10 now and I can say that Huawei phones are fast enough and I really don't care if they going to boost the performance further because I know it won't be free. If there is no improvement in energy-efficiency I'm not interested as simple as that.

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          • LEi
          • 13 Dec 2019

          most powerful chipset and the best performance camera for china no google play services though

            Never mind, we'll tell him tomarrow

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              • Anonymous
              • knh
              • 13 Dec 2019

              BigDisplay, 13 Dec 2019I just read 5 minutes ago China and US is ready to end the ... moreStill no hope for sure.
              Huawei case is political not trade. US don't want China ahead in technology. Now they start discussion ban on chinese made drone DJI.

                Afra, 13 Dec 2019Although Huawei is losing market meanwhile the new mate 30 ... moreI'd happily forfeit Google services tbh

                  what would be interesting to see from Huawei is if they used the new IMG A-seried gpus instead of Arm Mali's.
                  it'll be interesting to see a competition between Adreno for Qualcomm, AMD gpu's for Samsung and IMG for Huawei

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                    • Anonymous
                    • 7tm
                    • 13 Dec 2019

                    I don't care. What about 600mbit 12 bit 8k, or raw bayer. Licensing is not that expensive you couldn't license per person that pays a fee to activate the feature. Cineform is free, and cineform raw only requiresva $20 license, which is less than some phone camera apps.

                      Because a78 is designed in UK. Not in US. So huawei jumped straight in to a78

                        Anonymous, 13 Dec 2019990 already pretty much there. And next gen soc in 2020 wel... moreMali G76 can be scaled up to a whopping 20 cores which theoretically should beat Adreno 640 when the Mate 30, Note10 and Mate 20 uses 16, 12 and 10 cores respectively. The problem is that those 3 phones still have mediocre cooling capabilities which causes the GPUs to throttle, leading to their true, sustained performance. ROG P2 and Oppo Reno 10x Zoom are the very few phones that don't throttle.

                        According to Antutu leaks, it seems that Mali G77 MP11 in the S11 have beaten Adreno 650. Seems like ARM is finally good.

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                          • 3Rs
                          • 13 Dec 2019

                          R.I.P. Qualcomm

                            Cortex-A78 hasn't even been announced nor does the naming exist yet and there's already rumours of Huawei already planning to use it. Samsung's Exynos 1000 is also rumoured to use the same microarchitecture. Kirin 1020 is repeating history again like the Kirin 980 in which they skipped A75. Nothing really special to see here but it'll be a true upgrade for users who want to change Kirin to Kirin.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • I8m
                              • 13 Dec 2019

                              Anonymous, 13 Dec 2019forget about cpu kirin and exynos need 50% just to catch up... more990 already pretty much there. And next gen soc in 2020 well use Mali g77 gpu which will at minimum match the new adreno gpu

                                Anonymous, 13 Dec 2019Link pleaseIt's a Danish article from Bloomberg.
                                https://www.avisen.dk/bloomberg-usa-og-kina-er-enige-om-handelsaftale_578472.aspx

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • fv3
                                  • 13 Dec 2019

                                  Anonymous, 13 Dec 2019again the same story.... at the end it will be maybe slight... moreKirin 990's cpu is already slightly faster than sd855

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                                    • SH3
                                    • 13 Dec 2019

                                    Anonymous, 13 Dec 2019forget about cpu kirin and exynos need 50% just to catch up... moreThats a lie. Kirin 990 was almost as good as SD855.

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                                      • SH3
                                      • 13 Dec 2019

                                      50% better than Kirin 990.
                                      Well clearly this will outrun Apple A13 bionic chip as well.

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                                        • Anonymous
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                                        • 13 Dec 2019

                                        BigDisplay, 13 Dec 2019I just read 5 minutes ago China and US is ready to end the ... moreLink please