Apple considers letting iPhone users change their default apps

20 February 2020
There is also talk about third-party music streaming services coming to the HomePod.

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AnonD-914486, 20 Feb 2020Yeah, but their prices are still from 3012 xDJust like Samsung :)

    Anonymous, 21 Feb 2020Still, Apple can fix Safari in an instant and they have dir... moreOK so say an app has a vulnerability, lets say chrome and safari suffer from a inherent html bug that effect all browsers. It gets fixed in short order from both parties, chrome probably faster due to more support behind it, but lets say for arguments sake let say at the same time. Now all users get pushed the app update for chrome, that they can download immediately and regardless of what ios version they have on their iphone. But Safari users need to wait on an ios version update, that has a staggered roll out and isn't available to older devices. So more users are at risk using Apple's mandatory app and not having the option of setting alternative default.

    And before a comment comes back bashing Chrome this is the same regardless of what browser is used the the example whether that be Chrome, Firefox, Edge, Dolphin, Beaker, Opera or anything else.

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      • Anonymous
      • XRg
      • 21 Feb 2020

      Anonymous, 21 Feb 2020Still, Apple can fix Safari in an instant and they have dir... moreYour assumption is completely laughable.
      Assuming that only Apple can provide secure browsers. Only Apple can fix bugs, other app developers can't? Stop justifying this prison system of iOS.
      Android not only provides more freedom and functionality but also better security by default.

      Third party web browsers are ten times better than stock browsers on Android.
      They have developers fixing bugs too.

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        • Anonymous
        • MwH
        • 21 Feb 2020

        Anonymous, 21 Feb 2020Yeah like the recent bug where Safari browser was sending d... moreStill, Apple can fix Safari in an instant and they have direct control over it. Whereas 3rd party browsers can just be full of security holes and users might wait for months and months before any of those get fixed.

        All in all, it's a big risk to let users change default apps. Say there's a specific virus that uses a vulnerability in a certain 3rd party browser - and users' phones will get infected and Apple will not be able to do anything about it. Even though it's the user's decision to use something else, they will still blame Apple for not making iOS secure enough. While a 3rd party browser falls out of Apple's direct control and all they can do is to remove it from the app store and from users' phones, after the damage has been done.

        I somehow trust Apple to know more about their iOS and how 'privacy vs. user freedom' should work, rather than a 3rd party, in a small office somewhere, with tiny budgets and timeframes for testing their apps.

          Anonymous, 21 Feb 2020This is not needed. Other browsers don't go through Apple's... moreActually, it's quite "pointless" for browsers as all internet browsers on iOS must use Safari's rendering engine anyway. Worse, they cannot use Safari's faster Javascript engine (they use a slower version). So for iOS, all non-safari browsers are practically inferior by default. Thus this illusion of choice is just that, an illusion. And it's hilarious how the nerds wanting to use other browsers on iOS.

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            • Anonymous
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            • 21 Feb 2020

            Anonymous, 21 Feb 2020This is not needed. Other browsers don't go through Apple's... moreYeah like the recent bug where Safari browser was sending data to tencent servers.

            Atleast on Android we can use privacy focused browsers. Tons of varieties of browsers with disabled analytics, ad block, seamless integration, inbuilt VPN, etc which are way better than stock browsers.

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              • Anonymous
              • PGq
              • 21 Feb 2020

              Welcome to 2010, (C*)Apple!!

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                • Anonymous
                • MwH
                • 21 Feb 2020

                This is not needed. Other browsers don't go through Apple's rigorous testing and thus, might pose security threats to the whole OS, user files, pictures, messages, etc. And then people who use third party browsers (not properly secured) will complain that iOS itself is not secure.

                Why allow people to do stupid stuff and risk the reputation of 'rock-solid device + rock-solid iOS' when you can just give them the option that is fully tested and is up to Apple's highest standards?

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                  • Anonymous
                  • KSu
                  • 21 Feb 2020

                  Anonymous, 21 Feb 2020This is true. Android stock and iOS are very similar. That'... moreNo they aren't.
                  Stock Android by default does more than any iOS device.
                  Android skins do more than stock Android.
                  You can make stock Android pull of tricks that can only happen on other Android Oem skins, but You can't make iOS do that.

                  Even Android from 5 years back is drastically different and more advanced compared to current iOS.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • KSu
                    • 21 Feb 2020

                    Anonymous, 21 Feb 2020This exactly. The number of people who ask me to fix their... moreAndroid will always ask the user for an option before setting something as default.
                    Even later you can change it.
                    While iOS is thinking about giving that option.

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                      • dladz
                      • Mxm
                      • 21 Feb 2020

                      so apples going to let people use a fundamental part of their phone as they should have already been using it?

                      cheers apple, you're so kind

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                        • pYP
                        • 21 Feb 2020

                        opening up iOS?
                        Steve Job on whatsapp group: *shocked pikachu meme*, "steve jobs has left the chat"

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                          • 21 Feb 2020

                          potato4k, 21 Feb 2020This issue of default apps are way overblown by nerds/tech ... moreThis exactly. The number of people who ask me to fix their email on their phone, and it's some totally ancient version of Samsung Mail on a 5 year old Samsung A-series with a broken screen. Or Apple Mail on a iPhone 6 with a toasted battery.

                          A colleague just got a new phone, he's all proud of it. It's a 32GB Samsung S8, and he's paying it off over 3 years. It's better than the S4 he had before.

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                            • vjs
                            • 21 Feb 2020

                            Wow, good to hear that but security still a concern if Apple cannot control 3rd party Apps.

                              I'mPhone, 20 Feb 2020Owned a Galaxy device. Unfortunately it is not as good a... moreI own an A50 running oneUI, no lag at all,even with 4GB of RAM.
                              Maybe you filled you phone with loads of crap apps?

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                                • 21 Feb 2020

                                I'mPhone, 20 Feb 2020Owned a Galaxy device. Unfortunately it is not as good a... moreNo, you lie, the laggy part is you, thats for sure lol

                                  This issue of default apps are way overblown by nerds/tech bloggers. In reality, regular people don't care. Heck, even on Android, majority of users are using the default browser (be it Samsung, Xiaomi, etc). Only the nerds are making it like a big deal.

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • vV5
                                    • 21 Feb 2020

                                    Apple treats its customers like dumb kids.

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • J7S
                                      • 21 Feb 2020

                                      Wow iOS users don't have the option to change the default application. I really don't know that but I'm not surprised thuo. At least they are free to use whatever applications Apple wants for them.

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                                        • Anonymous
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                                        • 21 Feb 2020

                                        Note7 owner, 20 Feb 2020I appreciate not having to click set as default when I open... moreThis is true. Android stock and iOS are very similar. That's why i choose phones with a own skin.