The Galaxy S20 Ultra records awesome low-light video, here's a sampler

04 March 2020
We compared the latest Galaxy's footage to the one you can get out of a Note10+, and let's say it's not really a contest.

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  • 09 Mar 2020

Spike, 07 Mar 2020I would really like to see GSMArena having a standard camer... moreThere is already a camera photo and video compare tool.

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    • Spike
    • xfi
    • 07 Mar 2020

    I would really like to see GSMArena having a standard camera photo and video that we are comparing all these pictures to. We are comparing things to each other without a true baseline!

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      • mooox
      • ucv
      • 06 Mar 2020

      Flgshp2020, 05 Mar 2020"Exposure control in daylight and night landscape shots, mo... more"Exposure control in daylight and night landscape shots, most likely. Zoom, moving object (higher ISO settings using manual mode), aperture control, burst shooting capability and RAW image quality?"

      These things are already available on modern day smartphones.

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      Haha.. A Ferrari has 1 engine 4 wheels and 1 steering wheel. A Toyota has the same too.
      Someone who doesn't know any better will say, hey, they're the same! Hence Toyota = Ferrari!

      Zoom > Which modern smartphone has actual "zoom"? It's just software crop between the 2 or 3 fixed focal lengths.

      moving object tracking > To a certain extent yes.

      higher ISO settings using manual mode > Yeap there is, but have you seen how bad the higher ISO images are? Smartphone high ISO images = quality from high end compact cameras of 5 years ago.

      aperture control > change between 2 apertures is available on about 5 phones from 1 manufacturer. Even that's hardly aperture control

      burst shooting capability> Smartphone wins this one. Hands down.

      RAW image => Yes but quality => No

        Flgshp2020, 05 Mar 2020" And we don't even know if Exynos ISP has been developed w... more"Coz Exynos is homegrown chipset"
        Keep it in mind that Exynos variant produced substantially worse looking images compared to SD variant last year.. and even if Exynos was superiour to SD when it comes to handling different CFA, Samsung might have just limited it like they didn't enable 4K 120fps video recording on Exynos S9 so that the overall performance would balance out between two different models.

        "That's also why one ui is more optimized for Exynos compared to SD"
        Source? I've only heard of Exynos variant having worse battery performance (mainly in idle) than SD, so I'm interested to hear more from you on this matter.

          Flgshp2020, 05 Mar 2020"Third, GCam port is still a software solution hence is not... moreWhat I'm saying is GCam is not specifically designed for CFA other than the regular Bayer, so if S20 Ultra is having any sort of issues with properly utilising Nonacell structure as some people on this website suggest, then they are not something GCam is able to address.

            Flgshp2020, 05 Mar 2020"Exposure control in daylight and night landscape shots, mo... moreYeah, but to a lesser extent. That's why I said "compact cameras are still ahead" in those areas.

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              • Jimbob
              • gKH
              • 05 Mar 2020

              In 5 years youll be looking back at this and thinking why did I think this was awesome...

                Nick Tagataka, 05 Mar 2020"they have released Exynos variant in most parts of the wor... more"Third, GCam port is still a software solution hence is nothing to do with the hardware optimisation of the Nonacell CFA."

                This software solution unlocks the real potential of the HW which not possible on Huawei at all. As you said, you are dependent on Huawei for improvements in image quality. Here ppl can utilize gcam to get the most out of the HW, not having to solely rely on the company for improvements in image quality.

                The HMX on Mi Note 10 pro doesn't have nona Bayer but it still clicks great images thru gcam in scenarios where stock camera gives average results.

                  Nick Tagataka, 05 Mar 2020"they have released Exynos variant in most parts of the wor... more" And we don't even know if Exynos ISP has been developed with Nonacell in mind anyway, how can you think that only SD can be potentially affected while Exynos does not?"

                  Coz Exynos is homegrown chipset. The nona Bayer was announced long back. So pretty sure, they were optimizing the Exynos ISP with Nona-Bayer in mind.
                  That's also why one ui is more optimized for Exynos compared to SD.



                    Nick Tagataka, 05 Mar 2020"already ahead of compact point and shoot cameras" Exposur... more"Exposure control in daylight and night landscape shots, most likely. Zoom, moving object (higher ISO settings using manual mode), aperture control, burst shooting capability and RAW image quality?"

                    These things are already available on modern day smartphones.

                      mooox, 05 Mar 2020From what I see of the S20 ultra images, the quality is jus... moreThe S20 ultra sensor is 1/1.33 (pretty huge) compared to 1/2.55" sensor on s10/Note 10.
                      Effective pixel size of 2.4 micron vs 1.4 micron.
                      So the hardware is already there.
                      Software optimizations will make this better over time.

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                        • mooox
                        • PUq
                        • 05 Mar 2020

                        MrPhone, 05 Mar 2020Your judgment is really bad. See you keep using those rubbi... moreMi 10 pro is a crap phone. If you've used it.
                        I guess you've only looked at the spec sheets.

                        My beef with Xiaomi phones in general ->
                        They use inferior 4G chips, downloads are slower.
                        Their antenna is decidedly crappier (My Samsung phones can get 2 bars of signal vs 0 bars on Xiaomi phones)
                        The wifi antenna/chipset are rubbish! Wifi is so slow on Xiaomi phones.
                        Wifi technology is definitely lacking on Xiaomi devices. For example, some of the xiaomi phones don't even support the 5Ghz band on the phones. Or 802.11n or 802.11ac. It's like wtf.
                        NFC... non existent on xiaomi phones.

                        All these things don't come up in reviews, or spec sheets. People just assume that the phones are similar in all aspects that they take for granted. Most people who never used flagship phones before would have never experienced the "good stuff" and would think that Xiaomi phones are just as good.

                        As someone who carries and uses 3 phones (and 6 sim cards from 5 countries) at the same time, I can assure you that no, Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro is not comparable with even Samsung flagships from 2 years ago.

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                          • mooox
                          • PUq
                          • 05 Mar 2020

                          Nick Tagataka, 05 Mar 2020If my understanding is correct, software updates can only i... moreFrom what I see of the S20 ultra images, the quality is just an incremental upgrade over the S10 / Note 10+. The technology may be newer, the the results aren't that much better.

                          I'm not sure what's your idea of optimisation, but software upgrades are to "optimise" the experience given the hardware limitations. For example, if a sensor consistently produce this "error" under certain circumstances, the software can be changed to address and correct that error. That is called software optimisation.

                          Hardware optimisation = the more ram to the image processing unit, the more "burst shots" you can get. so you add XXX ram to get YYY burst shots. You can't change this after the hardware has been installed.
                          Software optimisation = to allow XXX RAM to process YYY x 2 burst shots, we set the software to compress the images before being put into RAM.

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                            • mooox
                            • PUq
                            • 05 Mar 2020

                            Flgshp2020, 05 Mar 2020Those tests have already been done albeit not by Gsmarena. ... moreMost definitely not. The image processing capability of a DSLR may been surpassed by a phone, but a S20 ultra can't even match the image quality of a DSLR from 15 years ago, be it in the day or at night.

                              Nick Tagataka, 05 Mar 2020HMS? US gov? I mean seriously, how the hell is your comment... moreI am just a kid. Can't get my mind straight. But yes Huawei fan.

                                Flgshp2020, 05 Mar 2020Those tests have already been done albeit not by Gsmarena. ... more"already ahead of compact point and shoot cameras"
                                Exposure control in daylight and night landscape shots, most likely. Zoom, moving object (higher ISO settings using manual mode), aperture control, burst shooting capability and RAW image quality? Smartphone cameras are quickly getting closer in those areas but compact cameras are still ahead. After all, it depends on what kind of photo you take daily.

                                "They are even matching Dslr in certain areas"
                                Like.. dynamic range in JPEG? Yeah I give you that. But in other cases DSLR still dominates hands down.

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                                  • AnonD-807890
                                  • 6sE
                                  • 05 Mar 2020

                                  Let's see some real-world handheld scenarios please. That video at the bar didn't look promising but it can't be that bad.

                                    Flgshp2020, 05 Mar 2020Well they have released Exynos variant in most parts of the... more"they have released Exynos variant in most parts of the world"
                                    "use gcam to solve issues"
                                    First of all, your first statement isn't exactly the case this year. Samsung increased the number of countries receiving Snapdragon variant with S20 series and it's no longer limited to US, China and Japan. And we don't even know if Exynos ISP has been developed with Nonacell in mind anyway, how can you think that only SD can be potentially affected while Exynos does not?

                                    Second, if your first statement was correct, then those two sentences shouldn't exist in the same context. If Samsung had released the Exynos variant in most parts of the world then that would mean proper GCam development couldn't be expected in most countries, since GCam utilises SD's Hexagon DSP to do all the heavy lifting.

                                    Third, GCam port is still a software solution hence is nothing to do with the hardware optimisation of the Nonacell CFA.

                                      Nick.B, 05 Mar 2020Promoting and PR-ing Samsung never ends. Shaking their leg... moreHMS? US gov? I mean seriously, how the hell is your comment even remotely related to S20 Ultra's video capability? And you have any proof that this is a PR by Samsung? Apology for being harsh, but that sounds like nothing but a useless fanboish troll comment to me.

                                        Promoting and PR-ing Samsung never ends.
                                        Shaking their legs 2-3 weeks before p40pro premium release and a lot of people will forget for Samsung again and choose Huwaei.
                                        HMS will have very soon top app-s. Maybe even google maps in near future. Dont forget Google wants to work with Huawei. US Gov does not want.

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