Huawei looking to enter the GPU business, recruits Nvidia engineers
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- 14 Feb 2021
If, 10 Apr 2020If this was true this will be the end of nvidiaI'm pretty sure most GPU sales are from gaming orientated cards - and anyway a new company doesn't mean that their gonna overthrow nivida
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- 14 Feb 2021
Anonymous, 11 Apr 2020Wikipedia trash information never believed Wikipedia lots o... moreMost info in general is right - your focusing on the slight chip on a brick on a giant mansion
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- 14 Feb 2021
AnonD-909757, 13 Apr 2020Well I didn't say it isn't the case, I wasn't talking about... moreYes that is very true just like the light bulb in a way
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- 14 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 10 Apr 2020The OS is already in use in some televisions (and possibly ... moreChina have highly educated people, high level engeneers. It is not clever to reinvent the wheel, (wich by the way was a chinese inventions like many majors others), they will copy many things then improve and innovate. Huawei is already the most prolific tech compagny in terms of patents.
They made huge progress in many aspects.
As for os, all os derivate from unix (exept windows). For pc, i don't see the utility to reinvente a new os. It is a huge amount of work, that is not necessary because it is old and they rather focuse on quantique computing etc but i expect them to bring their own unix derivative os (they for now use a highly customized linux)
Harmony os is however a different os that is not first intended for pc but could be. it is a microkernel based os and it will be interesting to see where they will put it. Once again, it is not certain that it is a good idea (at least in a short period of time) to replace android os that is working well and that is open source.
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- 14 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 10 Apr 2020They are in a hurry not having access to the latest cores.
... more the kirin processors made huge progress and are considered among the best in terms of autonomy and stability under heavy load (not heating), a very cleverly managed chip. They came from nowhere and have laready surpassed mediatek and exynos.
The kirin 990 is older than the sd865. it is the only soc that have 5G chip integrated in the same silicon. The K990 is in that aspect more advanced than both apple and qualcom socs. In the server sector, they have probably the best chip. They also were the first to implement AI chip in theirs socs
Those guys are clearly evolving fast.
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- 13 Apr 2020
Trimpy, 13 Apr 2020Just like western countries stole inventions from India and... moreWell I didn't say it isn't the case, I wasn't talking about western/occidental country, TBH most country stole inventions from someone else anyway, but the USA (both the country/government and the US citizens) are the ultimate king at that and they do it with big arrogance, as if all technology of the modern world were created and belong to them.
That why, as an inventor, I try to avoid working with American (and Chinese) smartphone companies...
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- 13 Apr 2020
AnonD-909757, 11 Apr 2020I love how Americans take credits for SO MANY inventions th... moreJust like western countries stole inventions from India and claimed those as their own.
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Anonymous, 10 Apr 2020They gonna build their own GPU from scratch just like the 5... moreThey headhunted many from Ericsson, in fact they set up an office across the street from Ericsson just to steal their people. All IP infringement by Huawei have been sanctioned by the Party like how Motorola had their tech stolen by Huawei then got crippled by the CCP when they tried to make a claim.
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- 11 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 11 Apr 2020Wikipedia trash information never believed Wikipedia lots o... moreWrong, while there are some false informations on Wikipedia, the VAST MAJORITY is true as it is simple and easy to verify facts.
When it come to sensitive facts (still classified project or prototype with many confidential informations), historical facts with very little informations (Creation of Stonehenge, ancient city of Puma Punku), things who can really change depending on the side or the point of view of the writer (Who are the bad guy in X or Y war), and stuff about beliefs (religions, cold fusion), yes, they CAN be false, and are subject to interpretation.
And to be honest, most peoples don't even understand that when you say "X case MAY come from Y thing" it is subject to interpretation and not necessary the reality, which cause Wikipedia to have this reputation of being always wrong.
And that's an old myth, the way Wikipedia changed now mean that more sources are required and less peoples can easily edit things, making the informations more reliable.
But for a simple list of manufacturers on a specific market, some may simply have been forgotten, but there is almost no chances that the list of CPU and GPU manufacturers is wrong.
Beside, you can easily check it yourself.
Funnily enough, I am sure a lot of peoples who don't believe in Wikipedia informations believe in MythBusters "proofs" where actually most testing method are so far from good methodology or scientific method that they only prove that their OWN way to verify if something is false is not working...
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- 11 Apr 2020
AnonD-909757, 11 Apr 2020I love how Americans take credits for SO MANY inventions th... moreWikipedia trash information never believed Wikipedia lots of information are wrong.
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Anonymous, 11 Apr 2020Someone riled this guys feathers :D
Did the US hurt ya i... moreI simply throw the plain truth against this stupid US arrogance of "We are the best".
And you can try all day long to report the problem to me by saying the I am just angry or offended or anything, but at the end of the day, I simply said the truth, I gave example, facts, technical explanations and I didn't get mean or said any insults, and I didn't anything mean toward the guy I was answering.
Now, you, remind me what you just did here ?
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- 11 Apr 2020
AnonD-909757, 11 Apr 2020I love how Americans take credits for SO MANY inventions th... moreSomeone riled this guys feathers :D
Did the US hurt ya in some way
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- Anonymous
- LCj
- 11 Apr 2020
will it mine bitcoins while idle? you don't know how sneaky these dudes can get
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- 11 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 10 Apr 20205G is different thing and semi coders are American technology.I love how Americans take credits for SO MANY inventions that are actually from other countries.
First aircraft (French), first object on Mars, on the Moon, on Venus (URSS), first light bulb (Belgium), Internet (UK, French), first modern computer (English : Charles Babbage/Alan Turing), Planar Process (Finnish), surface passivation (German/Finnish), thermal oxidation (Egyptian), junction isolation (Finnish), Lithography (Greek), Hamburger (German), Programming (English) and so on.
The USA are great at stealing inventions, idea, country and continents, selling them, and pretending this is their own, not so much about inventing...
And even on many inventions that were created in the USA, they were created by peoples born elsewhere and then moving to the USA latter (Nikola Tesla and Wernher von Braun for example) who could have done the same on other country, the USA were only offering them more opportunities (Tesla wouldn't really agree anyway).
5G is a good example of how the USA aren't the center of the universe and a lot of time depend on other countries for their high end technology.
The GPU we are talking about here is not a real GPU, it is more a "manycore processors", it look like a graphic card, it work in a motherboard expansion slot like PCI-E like a graphic card, it have many small and simple (RISC) processors like a graphic card...
But it is not a GPU like an AMD Radeon Pro, or a GPGPU like Nvidia Tesla...It is more like the Xeon Phi.
The card is made out of many RISC processors, and Huawei is making ARM which are advanced RISC processors made to work on their own, so making a computing card with many simple RISC processors isn't the hardest task they can undergo.
The only reasons why there isn't other contenders in GPU and CPU for general customers is simply the cost of entry, all the norm you need to follow, the competition huge advance on this market where there isn't that much room for sharing, that you need other companies to make compatibility for your system, coders to make optimisation for them, all the security and other micro code you need to already know, the lack of available experienced personnel, and for GPU the hard and complex drivers you need to develop and ALL the games/game engines/softwares you need to code it for which the existing Nvidia and AMD have already most of the job done here, they just need to patch and add new games...
This is not a technically too difficult job, this is just a job where you are literally too late (or don't have enough billions to spend) to enter, many country have the technical means to do competitive GPU and CPU, it just doesn't make much sense to risk so much money for a market where you need to make for decades worth of code and have no guarantee to not simply fail because the customers might not buy your product simply because the product don't have enough "X" or agressive names like :
"Genova BlackSky TRX-700X SubShadow Black Edition Xtrem GCsX"
GCsX = Gamer Confederation SerieX to make a catchy name like Asus ROG.
I mean, I am barely exaggerating here when we consider graphic cards like the :
"Gigabyte Aorus GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Xtreme Waterforce" Or the :
"Inno3D GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Twin X2" or simply the :
"Gigabyte Aorus GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER Waterforce WB"...
NO the USA DOESN'T have onwership and are not the only one capable of making CPU and GPU :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_hardware_manufacturers#Central_processing_units_(CPUs)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_hardware_manufacturers#Graphics_processing_units_(GPUs)
There are other CPU and GPU markets you don't know about simply because you don't use them as they aren't general consumer oriented but pro oriented.
Stop thinking the USA is the best country of the world or the N°1, the only list where the USA are N°1 are list you don't want you country to rank high.
It is arrogant to think only the USA can do something, because in reality, most of the amazing things the USA did, were something either already invented somewhere else or that other country do better.
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- 10 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 10 Apr 2020They gonna build their own GPU from scratch just like the 5... more5G is different thing and semi coders are American technology.
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- fIP
- 10 Apr 2020
Why not? More rival in every segment is good for customers
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- 10 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 10 Apr 2020Lol no this isn't apple.lol its worse than apple
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- 10 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 10 Apr 2020All these technology are American Huawei how you’re going t... moreThey gonna build their own GPU from scratch just like the 5G technology which the US doesn't have .
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- 10 Apr 2020
Did you people even read the article? Huawei is planning on server-grade GPUs not mainstream or professional mobile / laptop / desktop GPUs. It won't matter to us normal consumers. It'll compete with Nvidia Tesla / Quadro and AMD FirePro.
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- 10 Apr 2020
All these technology are American Huawei how you’re going to build your own GPU from scratch?!