MediaTek officially unveils the Helio G85 chipset
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- 05 May 2020
Please watch history channel, nothing good about mediatek in everything about smartphones
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- 05 May 2020
Alex 94, 05 May 2020U don't understand like 90% people, that 2 a75 is stronger ... moreIn multicore geekbench p70 has 10% better score than g70 (single core is better in g70 20% ) zntutu cou they bith score around 72000
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- 05 May 2020
IpsDisplay, 05 May 2020This should be stronger than the exynos in the Samsung S20 ... moreMediatek did the BEST chip in YEARS with the Helio G90T. Is very optimized.
And Dimensity 1000L looks promising. Wondering why they didn't released more phones with that chip. Is on par of SD 855.
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- 05 May 2020
Anonymous, 05 May 2020Only 2 a75 cores while p60 has 4 a73 And on gpu p60 has ... moreU don't understand like 90% people, that 2 a75 is stronger than 4 a73.
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- 05 May 2020
IpsDisplay, 05 May 2020This should be stronger than the exynos in the Samsung S20 ... moreNot really the difference between g90t and g85 is huge
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Anonymous, 05 May 2020Only 2 a75 cores while p60 has 4 a73
And on gpu p60 has ... moreBeware of Arm's naming
G72 is second Bifrost archecture...
Core uses 3 execution engined
Execution engine is 4 lanes wide
G72's core uses a total of 12 lanes
G52 has only 2 execution engine (on 2EE) but execution engine is closer to G76's 3rd Bifrost architecture.
It has 8 lanes.
G52's core uses a total of 16 lanes.
Yes it's stupid, but G52 is more powerfull than G72!
G72mp3 uses a total of 36 lanes
G52 2EEMC2 uses a total of 32 lanes
It's very close...
In fact, G70/80/85 reach better framerates than P60.
But all these are far from G90! I don't understand Mediatek's naming...
I'm ok on G70...(it's P65 with Hyper Engine)
But G70+ would be a better choice for G80
And Maybe G70 Ultra for G85
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- 05 May 2020
This should be stronger than the exynos in the Samsung S20 plus lolol G90t already mops the floor with S20 plus lololol:
https://youtu.be/dZn_4NHHgwQ
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- 05 May 2020
Can we expect the same kind of battery efficiency as the G80? I'm still surprised to see the Realme 6i with G80 topped as the highest endurance rating ever with a whopping 180 hours!
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- 05 May 2020
Alex 94, 05 May 2020Mediatec g 7 and 8 series are cortex a75. So, they are fas... moreOnly 2 a75 cores while p60 has 4 a73
And on gpu p60 has mali g72 while g70 has mali g52 with less cores.
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- 05 May 2020
RishiGuru, 05 May 2020MediaTek Helios G85 is no doubt a good SoC just like G90T. ... moreThere is a reason why you are not an engineer in mediatek
Google about cortex a76 and a77, then post about why p60 and g90t is same chip.
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- 05 May 2020
Anonymous, 05 May 2020The only way Mediatek could cut through the competition is ... moreThe raw performance of kirin 810 is great but the problem is with optimization. Fortnite isn't supported and codm is stuck on low graphics
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Anonymous, 05 May 2020The only way Mediatek could cut through the competition is ... moreHuawei have best mid-range chipsets. They are so strong, that the difference compared to flagship soc are very little. Also new exynos 980 with cortex a77 is great.
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Anonymous, 05 May 2020The only way Mediatek could cut through the competition is ... moreQualcomm garner monopoly is smartphone SoC business. They are considered the best and they decide the unit price òf their SoCs which smartphone manufacturers need to pay.
This is one side of the coin.
In case of Mediatek the manufacturers demand their chipsets at far lesser price or else they will move to Qualcomm. Hence they provide good performance with old fab process. Take Helio G90T as an example. Hence they have much less money left to perform proper software updates. Android version upgrades becomes a big problem with Mediatek chipsets as they often do falter in not having updated drivers of the newest versions of Android. And even if they do provide those drivers they are not as optimized as previous ones.
This is the story of other side of the coin.
In the end neither Mediatek nor the smartphone manufacturers are to blame fully. It is Qualcomm monopoly.
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- 05 May 2020
Anonymous, 05 May 2020And also g70 g80 and g85 doesn't offer any improvement over... moreMediatec g 7 and 8 series are cortex a75. So, they are faster for sure comparing to p60 and p70 cortex a73.
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RishiGuru, 05 May 2020MediaTek Helios G85 is no doubt a good SoC just like G90T. ... moreRealme 6 and 6 pro have the same battery but comes with g90t 12 nm soc and 720g 8 nm soc. In the end sd soc isn't better in battery duration, even it comes in 8 nm.
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RishiGuru, 05 May 2020MediaTek Helios G85 is no doubt a good SoC just like G90T. ... moreThe only way Mediatek could cut through the competition is by selling cheaper. That's why they're still sticking with 12nm. Meanwhile, Kirin 810 and 820 are on 7nm and 6nm? (based on a rumour otherwise 7nm) respectively and are the most superior compared to the competition.
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RishiGuru, 05 May 2020MediaTek Helios G85 is no doubt a good SoC just like G90T. ... moreAnd also g70 g80 and g85 doesn't offer any improvement over p60 and p70
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- 05 May 2020
Alex 94, 05 May 2020Just marketing trick. Helio g70,g80 and g85 are 99% same soc.MediaTek Helios G85 is no doubt a good SoC just like G90T. However to me it was Helios P60 on 2018, that brought Mediatek back on track and on par with Qualcomm for the first time ever. I generally divide SoC performance into three distinct parts:
1) CPU performance
2) GPU performance
3) Manufacturing process
In 2018, price-wise Realme 1 armed with P60 directly pitted against Redmi Note 5 Pro & Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1 sporting Snapdragon 636. There was also Oppo F7 with P60 which I personally own. It was the first time Mediatek truly won over Snapdragon counterparts.
Realme 1 was selling like hot cross buns in India and was considered the mid-range gaming beast. Not only P60 was slight faster be it CPU or GPU than SD636 but it was also built on a more efficient 12nm manufacturing process when Qualcomm was using 14nm in its SD636 resulting in less power draw and less heat.
P60 laid the foundation and all its successors be it P65, G70, G85, P90 till G90T used the same 12nm fab process. The G85 is no doubt a great SoC performance wise but efficiency wise in 2020 it has lost the war. We now have Snapdragon 730G nearly equaling performance of G90T but built on much efficient 8nm process and is a much better long term choice. So in my eyes P60 was the real winner from Mediatek in its time frame, not the G90T or the recent G85.
As of 2020, personally even if I like the specs of G85 I steer clear out of it. The much older 12 nm fabrication process used in G85 will be the root cause for higher heat dissipation and high battery drain. That's why it is so cheap as they are using a 2 year old fab process first seen in their Helio P60 in 2018. If Mediatek have built the G90T or G85 on a 8nm node, it would have killed the Snapdragon 720 or 730G on birth. The 12nm process is excellent for the power & heat containment of P60 but for more powerful ones like G85 or G90T we need a better house of 8nm.
I better go for Snapdragon 720G or 730G devices built on much efficient 8 nm fab process resulting in much less heat and battery drain. That's the reason why Realme 6 Pro and latest Redmi Note 9 Pro comes with Snapdragons while Realme 6 is on G90T. In long term these power draw and heat will be an issue just like Snapdragon 652 on its hay days.
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- 05 May 2020
Zero, 05 May 2020WHY MEDIATEK? WHY? You have the Helio G90 AND the Helio P9... moreHelio P90 and G90 are more expensive than rebranded Helio P65 which is why the last is used more often. A chipset like Helio P90 being very underused isn't really uncommon, Snapdragon 670 had the same fate and instead Snapdragon 665 is overused. It's best you choose a last-gen premium mid-range or flagship phones than lazily updated midrange phones.
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- 05 May 2020
Anonymous, 05 May 2020Is this inferior to the G90T? Exactly