Rakuten files antitrust complaint against Apple in Europe

16 June 2020
This time it's about the Apple Books service.

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  • Anonymous

Guester, 17 Jun 2020lol. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/545453 Someon... moreOfc not foolproof - because such a thing doesn't exist.

And no, 25% is about the average VAT tax across a bunch of developed countries, some higher, some lower.

YUKI93, 17 Jun 2020Fake news? I'm with OP, I can't get it done either.Anyone can install apk on Android TV using file manager.
You must be learning disabled.

Android Master, 17 Jun 2020Can't sideload apps on Android TV from playstore browsers? ... moreFake news? I'm with OP, I can't get it done either.

Anonymous, 17 Jun 2020Still 20% marketshare. Using iOS is like using stone Age t... moreLoL. You keep on repeating that marketshare argument. Do you have any idea of what marketshare means? It means nothing. It's just numbers.

Just cause a brand has high marketshare doesn't mean that it is the prefered brand. You have to look at customer satisfaction COMPARED to marketshare.

Anonymous, 17 Jun 2020What do you read? He is still learning.
;-)

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 17 Jun 2020"the Cupertino-based company is stifling innovation and lim... moreStill 20% marketshare.
Using iOS is like using stone Age technology.

What can you expect from a company which employs sl*ve labor.
They refused to pay 2$ instead of 1$ for a day.
Greedy Innovation stagnating company

Anonymous, 17 Jun 2020"the Cupertino-based company is stifling innovation and lim... moreIt is if the third party is dealing with potential financial losses that could impact their business down the road. 30% might not seem like a lot but it adds up.

  • Anonymous

Crackling Doom, 17 Jun 2020I didn't say you mentioned anything about cars. It's an ana... more"the Cupertino-based company is stifling innovation and limits the consumer choice."

LOL....so when Apple offer their own services whilst allowing 3rd party apps to operate ie; having more options for the users, is stifling innovation and limiting consumer choice?

Anonymous, 16 Jun 2020Even google takes a massive 30% cut for play store in-app p... moreCan't sideload apps on Android TV from playstore browsers?
What are you talking about, lol.

Fake News!

Note7 owner, 17 Jun 2020I didn't complain that cars are so expensive. I'm not going... moreI didn't say you mentioned anything about cars. It's an analogy that, evidently, went over your head.

The point is that if Rakuten feels that they are being taken advantage of, they have every right to take action. They are not required to be at the mercy of Apple just because they use Apple's services. And they are not required to be content with the company they work for.

A business transaction should benefit both parties equally. If one is taking advantage of another, then there's a problem. Telling them to "stop complaining" and "start your own version of the business" (I'm paraphrasing here) solves absolutely nothing.

  • Guester

Anonymous, 16 Jun 2020No thanks, I want the apps I purchase and install on my dev... morelol.

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/545453

Someone got done for installing an app from the official appstore.

Yes its safer, but its not foolproof. Those examples by the other poster are not dissimilar to appstore.

And 25% where did you get that number from? Your 'feeling'? Just a guess? Lol

Crackling Doom, 16 Jun 2020Because they don't have the money or the resources to do so... moreI didn't complain that cars are so expensive. I'm not going to sue BMW for selling their M3 for so much more than a Camry either. Weird analogy.

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 16 Jun 2020lol do people still read electronic books?What do you read?

In China apps update themselves. When you start them, they check for updates.

  • Anonymous

Apple is the new Microsoft.

It's not that far removed from Google promoting it's own music, video and other services within the playstore and preloading GMS certified android with their own Gapps.

Note7 owner, 16 Jun 2020Rakutan can go and make their own app store and pay 0% comm... moreBecause they don't have the money or the resources to do so?

It's like asking you to build your own car instead of buying one. Are you actually going to do it?

Rakutan can go and make their own app store and pay 0% commission to apple. Why waste your time sueing them. But good luck with getting people to play along with you. Lol

  • Anonymous

blastertoad, 16 Jun 2020The difference to distribute your app on android you don't ... moreNo thanks, I want the apps I purchase and install on my device(s) to be fully reviewed and verified by a human, as well as any updates that come through. Therefore I prefer app stores and I prefer that everyone else uses apps from their vetted platform stores. This is because if I am somehow connected to them or they have my information, this info can easily leak unintentionally.

And that's why I support applying a flat tax to all app purchases and subscriptions as it pays for app review, maintaining the store digital platform and 24/7 support centre, etc.

Maybe not 30%, but a 25% sounds more right.

  • Anonymous

lol
do people still read electronic books?