Oppo unveils next gen periscope cam: 85-135 mm optical zoom, 32 MP Quad Bayer sensor

18 August 2020
The camera also offers 280 mm hybrid zoom using advanced image processing. 

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  • Saddam Khan

Any update on this?

  • AnonD-754814

Nick Tagataka, 21 Aug 2020"Isn't this new Oppos's periscope technology... moreLooks like I was wrong.
These periscope do use fixed Focal length. At least the one I found use fixed focal length.

  • Anonymous

AnonD-754814, 21 Aug 2020The only thing you can so is talk. I've been seeing ... moreAnd what have you done besides talking?
Where is your proof of what you claim.
RX100 is a joke and smartphones are on par with it.
I've checked the tests.

It's hilarious how you are getting owned in every thread.
'Morsel' has lost all his credibility on this forum.

  • AnonD-754814

Nick Tagataka, 21 Aug 2020"Isn't this new Oppos's periscope technology... moreI know we've talked this before.
And we both agreed devices use both camera at some point.

But do they use this technique every time except the native 5x/10x zoom ?
This was my question. Not what you're describing.

You're getting my logic wrong way. My logic is ,
I know devices combine multiple camera at some point. But do they use fusion/cropping every time except the full zoom ?
If that's the case then why some level zoom has better detail than other zoom if they were taken using same technique ?

AnonD-754814, 19 Aug 2020Isn't this new Oppos's periscope technology a con... more"Isn't this new Oppos's periscope technology a continuous zoom?"
Yes, exactly what I said.

"But is that the same case for periscope lens?"
Yes, it has been the case for all phone periscope lens apart from Zenfone Zoom.

"both 2x and 3x photos are highly detailed"
I'm pretty sure I explained this to you before but let me say it again.. It fuses images from the periscope lens and the wide angle lens to fill in the missing details in the centre portion of the frame. This will lead to fusion artifacts and loss of details around the edges of the frame but on P40 Pro you can barely see them unless you look at the photos at 100% magnification. On P30 Pro, they are quite a bit more obvious.

  • AnonD-754814

iOS Succckkks, 20 Aug 2020You don't want to check comparisons on youtube coz you... moreThe only thing you can so is talk.
I've been seeing these type of comparison a lot. No need to waste again. Smartphone sensor never hold a chance.

AnonD-754814, 20 Aug 2020I don't need to check the comparison. I know how it is... moreYou don't want to check comparisons on youtube coz you are afraid you'd be proven wrong.

  • AnonD-754814

iOS Succckkks, 20 Aug 2020Why don't you check the comparisons? they mention the ... moreI don't need to check the comparison. I know how it is.
You should stop spreading wrong info.

AnonD-754814, 20 Aug 2020Which Rx 100 are you talking about ? The one that got rele... moreWhy don't you check the comparisons? they mention the model used and every other detail.
Stop waiting for me to spoon feed you everything.

  • AnonD-754814

iOS Succckkks, 19 Aug 2020YouTube is my source. Plenty of comparisons between top sm... moreWhich Rx 100 are you talking about ?
The one that got released in 2012 or new one ?

AnonD-754814, 19 Aug 2020Are you talking about the Sony Rx 100 ? If so, then man w... moreYouTube is my source.
Plenty of comparisons between top smartphones and RX100.
Computational photography on smartphone making the RX100 a non entity.
I'll rather user mirroless for better quality over weak RX100 which isn't that better than flagship smartphones.

  • AnonD-754814

r31ya, 19 Aug 2020It's co develop TSMC's Chenming Hu. "He was... moreAgain.
A misdirected info.
Hitachi alone developed it first.
Then further development it partnered with TSMC but that didn't do much except doing minor improvement.
The second main innovation happened with Samsung when they figured a way to mass produce the FinFET process.

So, Actually there is 2 main innovation here.

1. Introduction to FinFET process by Hitachi and
2, Figuring out a way to take FinFET process to mass production by Samsung.

Yes TSMC helped Hitachi to make the FinFET better.
But I'm sure we can't call it innovation as it wasn't any major improvement.

AnonD-754814, 19 Aug 2020Why're you making your comment so dramatic ? Why don&... moreIt's co develop TSMC's Chenming Hu.
"He was one of the developers of the FinFET, a multi-gated MOSFET device, and was among the creators of the Berkeley Short‐Channel IGFET Model family of MOSFETs"

It's interesting to see you around with your fervor of China didn't invent anything.

  • AnonD-754814

Nick Tagataka, 19 Aug 2020Nah that has never been the case for the last few years. Th... moreIsn't this new Oppos's periscope technology a continuous zoom ?
I mean it will be able to do, 3x-3.1x-3.2x-3.3x.....4.9x-5x with actual optical zoom.

Look there is no actual evidence of periscope mechanism on the internet.
I knew that the 2x telephoto has a fixed focal length. But is that the same case for periscope lens ?

But think about Huawei's 10x optical zoom. If it cropped in to get 5x zoom then how's it possible to get that much detailed shot.
Now think about Huawei P30pro's 5x zoom.
both 2x and 3x photos are highly detailed. But when you do 3.1-4x it loses detail.
So, if it were cropping for all focal length except for the 5x then all middle zoom should have been bad. But that's not the case.
Same thing is seen for Samsung's periscope.

So, I think Periscope lens has around 2-3 fixed focal lengths. But can't be 100% sure as I couldn't get any proof and I could be wrong also.

But here in Oppo's case. They're talking about continuous zoom.
And this wasn't introduced by them first.

AnonD-754814, 19 Aug 2020Okay. I didn't know about that. But I thought the pe... moreNah that has never been the case for the last few years. This is why this Oppo's next gen periscope module is getting a lot of hype - looking at the descriptions, it is suggested that it has a smooth, continuous zoom instead of one or multiple fixed FLs.

  • AnonD-754814

Nick Tagataka, 19 Aug 2020They are fixed. For instance, S20 Ultra's periscope te... moreOkay. I didn't know about that.
But I thought the periscope cameras have 2-3 fixed focal length.
I guess I need to do some research here.

AnonD-754814, 19 Aug 2020If the lens do not move then How do Samsung, Huawei get the... moreThey are fixed. For instance, S20 Ultra's periscope telephoto module has a fixed 104mm equivalent lens (So 4x zoom factor) and it uses cropping from either the main or the telephoto camera to achieve in other zoom ranges. Of course, the lenses inside the telephoto module technically "move" to lock focus on subjects, but that doesn't mean that they are capable of changing the focal length.

  • AnonD-754814

Nick Tagataka, 19 Aug 2020Periscope (or dual prism) optical zoom with actual moving l... moreIf the lens do not move then How do Samsung, Huawei get the zooming done ?
I thought the lens move to do optical zoom for all periscope. But the zoom isn't continuous like in the actual cameras.
So, how does these periscope camera from Huawei and Samsung get the job done ?

T M , 19 Aug 2020😂🤣😂🤣***To some extent*** that's true, though.

AnonD-754814, 19 Aug 2020What type telephoto did ASUS introduce first ?Periscope (or dual prism) optical zoom with actual moving lens elements? Not the first one to do it in the world but certainly the first in the smartphone industry.