New iPhone to supposedly feature quad-core CPU based on Exynos 4
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AnonD-16429, 13 Jul 2012>> if u recall ur statements , entry level android ph... more"If Android is open to carriers and OEM alone"
>>learn to read first , i included developers in my comment , dont be careless and read at fast phases.
Here :
Android is only open to carriers , OEMs and developers but not to consumers.
Do you want to know , the example of true open source ? Its wikipedia , remember that google is just a company not an organization , its an ad company they know how to take all information from devices.
"Why should i add tablets when the purpose of discussion is about phones"
>>android posts only shipping volumes but apple actually posts "sold products" stats.
So even if u add all those , they are just shipped volme but not sold volume , if those are really sold , you wouldn't find 65% for iOS and 20% for android in "active browser usage volume" , developers wont be prefering iOS over android too if thats really a case.
"Again a misleading reply, my statement is very clear. Honeslty, its you who started the comparision of companies"
>>if u add all those companies , they wouldnt have smartphone at justhigh end , most of them are low end junk , only phones which really sell well are galaxy and iphones thats why apple takes up nearly 60% profits and add samsung , they together get more than 80% profits , most of devices shipping with android still in gingerbread or froyo , most of them incompatible to get upgraded to ICS (i.e last years OS) which means most of their configurations and gpu's and below average.If u want to compare OS wise , iOS still hold number one position , if u want to take phone side , compare iPhone to real competitors or equal capacity ones but not combining all those low end phones and showing 50% shipping volume instead of sold volume.
"- I'd agree, android is foer people who wish to get more out of their phone than to who prefer to let the oem decide what is best for you. seems that more geeks are increasing according to neilson survey"
>>I am really doubting if you are really reading posts , i mentioned entertainment users too because u posted links about galaxy tab used in aeroplanes , geeks constitute very less , if thats the case , websites like gsmarena would be in top of websites than sites like facebook or fashion centric websites.
"Phone feature to 'Reject call with sms'"
>>Previously voice mail was available or u can do conference incase u need another to join , thereare areas where iOS is lagging but those areas are not really not related "functionality"
Apple nailed OS X and iOS framework from day 0 , each of them look same from before , if u know apple from past , their website layout is also exactly same from 1987 onwards , another good example is windows (*cough*) which had start button , bottom tool bar and same basic layout with three buttons at corner to close , minimize and x button because microsoft nailed it , did anyone had problems with windows ? Except those geeks who install junk and themes , making chaos , saying open source bla bla ,but most people still use windows , Compare android , google still cannot define android's design , so they keep changing until they get one finally , they keep testing new designs and face issues with fragmentation.
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AnonD-9023, 12 Jul 2012"Wrong, unlimited expandability"
>> if u ... more>> if u recall ur statements , entry level android phones better than iphones , why should they root it ? If customization is in android DNA , how come samsung will remove my warranty if i brick my device/install our own ROM ? It isn't in google DNA either , they just void warranty just like apple if u try to use anything other than their own respective software.
Android is only open to carriers , OEMs and developers but not to consumers.
That exapandibility is a joke , it is same as jailbreaking which involves customization
- I reckon i am in discussion with an intellectual who has knowledge about Smartphones (irrespective of the os /brand). Please dont prove me wrong with statements like above.
If Android is open to carriers and OEM alone, who is CyanogenTeam, team AOKP, ASOP? Have you heard about them and their work?
OEMs void warranty because they are not resposible for any damage caused if you tweak the software. is that so hard for you to understand.
>> why only iphone ? Add ipod touches and iPads, then we see android slipped to second position.Consumer reports , we all know which customers are highly satisified , i.e iOS.
Why should i add tablets when the purpose of discussion is about phones. but if you insist i must add all the innumerable tabs of android from every nameless manufacturer.
>>You are comparing phones only , then you dont add other devices which run same iOS , now you add all 15 companies and compare it to one single company :) , still not big difference in share between two OS.
- Again a misleading reply, my statement is very clear. Honeslty, its you who started the comparision of companies.
+ compared to nokia maps , google maps are a joke.
- but tot tom is such a waste than Google. and apple picked it up.
Please, first focus on the basic Phone feature to 'Reject call with sms' and then you can comment about os optimisation.
Maybe android , is for geeks and entertainment users who keep on spending more time on customization than spending time on actually using the device
- I'd agree, android is foer people who wish to get more out of their phone than to who prefer to let the oem decide what is best for you. seems that more geeks are increasing according to neilson survey
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AnonD-16429, 11 Jul 2012>>Yes thats why many android users are installing cus... more"Wrong, unlimited expandability"
>> if u recall ur statements , entry level android phones better than iphones , why should they root it ? If customization is in android DNA , how come samsung will remove my warranty if i brick my device/install our own ROM ? It isn't in google DNA either , they just void warranty just like apple if u try to use anything other than their own respective software.
Android is only open to carriers , OEMs and developers but not to consumers.
That exapandibility is a joke , it is same as jailbreaking which involves customization.
"You said about all 256 MB ram"
>>read it : yes thats right , they are going to use 256MB RAM iPad as of december 2011.
http://9to5mac.com/2011/12/13/american-airlines-approves-ipad-as-flight-bag-replacement-starting-friday/
Can you tell me where android is used professionally ? Windows is always professional , no comparison between windows and android.
Maybe android , is for geeks and entertainment users who keep on spending more time on customization than spending time on actually using the device , if iOS is inferior , i wouldnt expect lot of enterprise sectors and government sectors using it :)
"- Who held a Gunpoint at you to speak about JB and project butter"
>>google spoke about it , not me :) and i can ask u same thing , who held a gunpoint at you to speak about apple ?
"- Be sepcific, are you talking about Sales figures are profits? Android devices vs iPhone doesnt match in sales"
>> why only iphone ? Add ipod touches and iPads, then we see android slipped to second position.Consumer reports , we all know which customers are highly satisified , i.e iOS.
"- How does that relate? did any one stop Apple in outsourcing to OEMs?
MS is more respected to have the Courage to invite OEMs to manufacure devices"
>>You are comparing phones only , then you dont add other devices which run same iOS , now you add all 15 companies and compare it to one single company :) , still not big difference in share between two OS.
"and why did they ditch google maps, perhaps you might agree that Gmaps are better than tom tom on global scale"
> Google is not paying apple for maps service but they are paying for search service :
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/03/10/google-pays-apple-search/
+ compared to nokia maps , google maps are a joke.
"More importantly, why does an iPh 4S sells for £490 off contract and a similar config GS2 sells for £400. Why the hefty price?"
>>oh , here is your main problem , comparing hardware now , i asked a question long back and still no answer , tell me a single app which runs native on galaxy s2 or atleast takes advantage of its hardware ? Can it run Heavy apps like garageband ? Or can it run games like dead trigger with full effects of tegra 3 ? Nope , it cant because no optimized software is made for it specifically while 4S has lots of accessories , optimized apps and gets updates longer.
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AnonD-9023, 11 Jul 2012"I'll certainly consider the example of floppy disks a... more>>Yes thats why many android users are installing custom ROMs because the OS shipped by default (by manufacturer) is soo good that they want to replace it with another one.
- Wrong, unlimited expandability - thats the DNA of Android. ironically, you shall never know if you are an iOs or WP user.
>>No one held you at gun point to buy apple products , you can choose whatever u like , its personal preference.
- Who held a Gunpoint at you to speak about JB and project butter
>>Sales and consumer reports showed who failed and who didn't
- Be sepcific, are you talking about Sales figures are profits? Android devices vs iPhone doesnt match in sales.
>Everyone saying android like 50% share but break those into 15 companies and check stats again , one company trying to deliver products worldwide Vs 15 others with 400+ devices.
- How does that relate? did any one stop Apple in outsourcing to OEMs?
MS is more respected to have the Courage to invite OEMs to manufacure devices.
>But no one dared to do it in volume , apple did it to push other latest techs like USB's , CDs .In flash's case , they want to push html , so they ditched flash.
-and why did they ditch google maps, perhaps you might agree that Gmaps are better than tom tom on global scale.
>In education also they are using iPads on large scale.Even in hospitals too
- Samsung tab is the new In flight Entertainment.
http://tabtimes.com/feature/traveltourism/2012/02/06/tablets-flight-how-american-airlines-upgrading-air-travel-samsung
http://www.virginaustralia.com/au/en/about-us/media/2012/SAMSUNG-GALAXY/
http://mashable.com/2012/04/18/galaxy-tab-in-flight/
More importantly, why does an iPh 4S sells for £490 off contract and a similar config GS2 sells for £400. Why the hefty price?
No facebook integration till date (yea, i heard its in iOS6). but what we are talking is till date.
Sahring abilities over a bluetooth - never. i know your point of wifi. but let me ask you, why have they ignored it all these years? Certainly the era of iPhone1, 3/3Gs never had the concept of wifi sharing. How difficult would it have been to the users to accomplish a simple task to sharing a file whilst every feature phone out there is able to do.
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AnonD-16429, 10 Jul 2012I'll certainly consider the example of floppy disks and DVD... more"I'll certainly consider the example of floppy disks and DVD drives,provided the fact that win OS has improved by leaps and bounds and Floppy disk technology is stuck at 3.14 MB. aint that correct?"
But no one dared to do it in volume , apple did it to push other latest techs like USB's , CDs .In flash's case , they want to push html , so they ditched flash.
"So what are you bragging about Apple'w way, who once trumpeted all over the internet that 320 x 480 pixels on a 3.5 inch screen is so called 'Perfect'. and again started the gimmick of retina by increasing the resolution when Samsung/androids swept away their screen res. again touted that 3.5 inch is adequate."
>>Really ? i heard samsung using "next big thing here" in all ads for s2 , s3 , note etc.Every company says their products are the best , when did samsung or LG said "our products are pathetic" ? Every company brags about things , that's what u call it marketing.
Apple said Retina display is amazing and sharp (never used any words like best or better than others) , they implemented it on macbook pro , iPad 3 too.
"Now again increase the screen res, which was said to perfect earlier , What once was a wastage of quads is now implemented.
when 128 mb is a great ram as per apple, jump to 512 , to 1 gig.
what do you call it? arent Apple copying and yet fail miserably to deliver what a common audience requires."
>>Sales and consumer reports showed who failed and who didn't :) , whenever apple hold an event , they start with statistics and staggering demand for their products from consumer as well as enterprise side.In education also they are using iPads on large scale.Even in hospitals too.
http://www.bgr.in/sections/features/indian-surgeon-uses-ipod-touch-for-knee-replacement-operation/
Everyone saying android like 50% share but break those into 15 companies and check stats again , one company trying to deliver products worldwide Vs 15 others with 400+ devices.
"they just did not 'Force' the user to work their way. The transition was of removing floopy was Smooth and effective which had a mutual benefit for OEM and buyers. "
>>No one held you at gun point to buy apple products , you can choose whatever u like , its personal preference.
"Jailbreak is the only way to get the iPhone to the capacity of an entry level android phone, leaving away the flashy look and hefty price."
>>Yes thats why many android users are installing custom ROMs because the OS shipped by default (by manufacturer) is soo good that they want to replace it with another one.
You can find everyone in xda once 6 months pass after buying device since updates roll out after one year delay or no updates.Windows Phone no updates at all.(exempting nexus line from this)
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AnonD-9023, 10 Jul 2012"In short an iPhone user is forced to use things in Ap... moreI'll certainly consider the example of floppy disks and DVD drives,provided the fact that win OS has improved by leaps and bounds and Floppy disk technology is stuck at 3.14 MB. aint that correct?
For many years Manufacturers provided the option of flopy disk to the users,they just did not 'Force' the user to work their way. The transition was of removing floopy was Smooth and effective which had a mutual benefit for OEM and buyers.
So what are you bragging about Apple'w way, who once trumpeted all over the internet that 320 x 480 pixels on a 3.5 inch screen is so called 'Perfect'. and again started the gimmick of retina by increasing the resolution when Samsung/androids swept away their screen res. again touted that 3.5 inch is adequate.
Now again increase the screen res, which was said to perfect earlier , What once was a wastage of quads is now implemented.
when 128 mb is a great ram as per apple, jump to 512 , to 1 gig.
what do you call it? arent Apple copying and yet fail miserably to deliver what a common audience requires.
Jailbreak is the only way to get the iPhone to the capacity of an entry level android phone, leaving away the flashy look and hefty price.
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blueglue, 10 Jul 2012You came to crux of the point. Why should my buddy install ... more"In short an iPhone user is forced to use things in Apple's way just because Apple is "InCAPABLE" of Executing the basic features "
Thats the same thing people like you said to apple when they did number of things.
They removed floppy disc back then , which none of manufacturers dared and also adopted USB on large scale which none of manufacturers encouraged , then we know about flash and now DVD drives in laptops ,companies who once called "names" now trying so hard to copy macbook air and make ultrabooks , now today they are trying hard to make a device like iPad where everyone called it big ipod touch and said honeycomb bla bla , now google with ICS said that they need common platform for both tablets and phones instead of separate ones like honeycomb and gingerbread(common platform is Apple's way which many referred ipod touch and ipad as same OS lmao)
Now latest u saw galaxy s3 features of sharing which requires Wi-fi ONLY.
You can rant on it but tell me a single thing which is useless in apple's way ? now no need itunes also from iOS 5 unless you want to install pirated content on phone.
Want a song ? download from iTunes........Want a song ? download from playstore (same answer given by google , when they launched nexus tablet but never mentioned about bluetooth sharing and they didn't say anything about sd-slot , even HTC and Sony ditched SD cards on their latest phones , if u look at nexus event also , everything done on Wifi and NFC but not bluetooth or SD-card)
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AnonD-9023, 09 Jul 2012"If you have to share data from your iphone to your bu... moreYou came to crux of the point. Why should my buddy install iTunes? just because iphone works with it only? why should anyone of us spend on data conenction when things can be ACHIEVED without it.
In short an iPhone user is forced to use things in Apple's way just because Apple is "InCAPABLE" of Executing the basic features.
Sorry to say, i find it ridiculous to use and extrenal App to accomplish the minimal task at hand. which any entry level smartphone..err even feature phones are doing from 2004 and earlier.
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AnonD-9023, 09 Jul 2012"How do you Share music/photos/ data with your buddy n... moreThe point is Why should one utilise the data connection when it can be done without it. and secondly, what if the data connection is not available? Why should i need a data connection to share a bunch of pics/or a few music tracks. Try to be realisitc dude.
Fyi, pc virus has no effect on mobiles. and what was the last disastrous virus which hit android phones by bluetooth transfers? can you name them?
Definitely i have changed attitude, but not the Apple's Way.
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AnonD-9023, 09 Jul 2012"How do you Share music/photos/ data with your buddy n... moreYou clearly haven't used an Android before to find out how secure Bluetooth file transfer is. And secondly, Adobe hasn't given up flash on phones because it's moving on. They did only because Apple wouldn't listen to them and allow flash for iOS.
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Anonymous, 10 Jul 2012haha wait for all the same fanboys that said quad core was ... moreand also how perfect the current iphone screen size is - except when Apple introduces a larger screen iphone that this.
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haha wait for all the same fanboys that said quad core was unneccessary on an iphone because it runs so swimmingly to crap on about how revolutionary this is and how we should all sell our souls to apple...
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blueglue, 09 Jul 2012Buddy, You sound rude.
How do you Share music/photos/ da... more"How do you Share music/photos/ data with your buddy next to you when you are travelling?"
So u exchange everything with "some buddies next to u" who have smartphone without data connection ........ a joke.
And allow all the virus and files transferred from "his" phone (which apparently came from some other phone or PC) and that goes into ur phone (even windows PC block content unless u unblock it in properties), Right.
Only scenario i can find this situation to be real , is if person is over-spending his earnings to show-off his shiny phone or a young kid/teenager who cant spend too much on data connection since he has to keep up in other aspects.
There is an article in blog about samsung ads how they share things , most of them needs "Internet" to work or data connection.All require Wi-fi connectivity.
You have to change your attitude with time :) , thats what companies like adobe and others are realizing to "move on".
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blueglue, 09 Jul 2012You must be joking , right?
External memory always has a... more"If you have to share data from your iphone to your buddy's phone(which isnt another iphone)"
If u want to share the data , dont u have another iPhone friend and his itunes library ? :P since the situation is "we dont have a computer".
Lets say he has an android , cant he just install itunes and help his friend with content ? , btw he cant share apps since different OS , or if situation is reverse , Google allows iTunes content to transfer to android right from froyo onwards which is like 2 years back at I/O.
There are tonnes of apps like bump which allow that , and also i right now i have like 3 apps which allow transfer through wifi.If u dont have data connection and computer , whats the point of buying a smartphone ?
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Anonymous, 08 Jul 2012thru my experience Android apps comes behind iOS & WP t... morefinally! i found yet another open-minded person, hehe. i'm telling you bro, you're in the right track. keep it up. :)
*no sarcasm here*
seriously, i'm not being sarcastic bro. i'm with you. :)
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AnonD-16429, 08 Jul 2012Be specific? are you talking about OS Crashing ? OR APPs Cr... morehmm, you do have a point. ok, i meant the OS itself.
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nmg, 09 Jul 2012people they are phones! they each have plus and negative... moregood one!
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people they are phones!
they each have plus and negative points. But this pointless my **** is bigger than yours just makes you all look like you should get out of your mums basement and get some sun light!
posted from my iPhone4ss3lumiaonexsuperphonewhichcanpleasurewomen
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Anonymous, 09 Jul 2012If you don't have a Mac/PC to download music to - then buyi... moreBuddy, You sound rude.
How do you Share music/photos/ data with your buddy next to you when you are travelling?
Why have you to be judgemental about someone's financial status? I fail to understand , is it defined by iPhone's disclaimer that one hsould own a PC/MAC as pre-requisite to buy an iPhone?
and i should be investing additional $300 atleast on a laptop so that i can sync iphone with data. absolutely foolish
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AnonD-9023, 08 Jul 2012I will answer all of them ,Even though i am not much famili... more" and for bluetooth transfer there are tonnes of apps"
You have to Jailbreak the iPhone and Void the warranty for a Bluetooth Transfer. doesnt it sound lame?
and you call it a SmartPhone! huh (No provocation intended, but i feel its really silly)