Asus Zenfone 7 and 7 Pro go official with triple flip cam and 90Hz OLED display

26 August 2020
The flip up camera now packs a telephoto module. The 5,000 mAh battery also gets a fast charging upgrade to 30 W.

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Microsoft BOB, 28 Oct 2020As much as I love and prefer LCD over OLED, mini-LED which ... moreYeah I totally agree, you make good points... The reason I thought Mini LED might happen is because I had read rumours about it being in the iPad Pro, but that didn't happen in the end, and even if it did, I suppose it wouldn't make as much sense in a smartphone as it would in a tablet.

Loosing the notification LED in a lot of phones has really frustrated me... Typically all we get nowadays from manufacturers is a single-colour white LED. I miss my OnePlus One and LG G4 with an RGB notification light where you could set the colours for each app, like having a green LED for WhatsApp and blue for Facebook. Now I have to manually check my phone to find out what a notification is.

I think we will see Mini LED in smartphones eventually, maybe not to the extent I was hoping (and I am sure OLED with still hold dominance) but it is already appearing in a couple of laptops which might be a positive sign of things to come. Right now I am trying to find a second-hand HTC U11 since it is one of the only flagship-level IPS handsets without any PWM flickering.

    P650SE, 28 Aug 2020Yup... I have been stuck in the same cycle for years of see... moreAs much as I love and prefer LCD over OLED, mini-LED which is LCD technology, may never happen for smartphones. It it technically possible for mobile devices but has no advantages over OLED for manufacturers. Also all phones got rid of the notification LED and now rely on OLED's "Always on Display" feature to show notifications. That can't go away entirely and with LCD-based screens even if they are mini-LED, power-efficient AOD is not possible. Already people complain about OLED AOD still consuming more battery power than the humble and useful notification LED which is now sadly gone from almost all phones.

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      JDK, 26 Aug 2020I honestly cannot believe the same reactions of "no he... moreI will always need 3.5, cable has a much better sound quality and Bluetooth headphones, when they have a microfone, Bluetooth is not capable of using both (speakers and microfone) at the same time at full quality. So yes
      No 3.5 jack, no buy

        P650SE, 28 Aug 2020Yup... I have been stuck in the same cycle for years of see... moreThat is the only way but LCD will have the last laugh

        All the display roadmaps point to serious LCD development the bitter part is of course waiting

        There is one rule to remember current popularity of oled is also a possible indicator for decline as you can't fall without having altitude first

        Wish at least the non pro ZenFone had LCD

          IpsDisplay, 26 Aug 2020Guess LCD lovers like myself will have to wait for miniled... moreYup... I have been stuck in the same cycle for years of seeing a new phone teased, getting excited about the possibility of owning it, then ultimately being let down and disappointed when it turns out to have OLED. At least when Mini LED comes along it should start the decline of OLED smartphones released in the flagship-level segment.

            Kgd78, 26 Aug 2020If you need 120Hz then you should consider ROG 2 or 3. It ... moreIs there a way to force 120hz on this? Or maybe it was just hidden? Like the secret 160hz on rog 3?

            I like the cameras of this one, not interested in rog

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              sadh, 27 Aug 2020Actually, usb c provides a better quality than jack 3.5 ... moreno, it depend on DAC chip of the phone. LG V10, 20, and 30 are the example of having good DAC chip on a phone with headphone jack

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                • 28 Aug 2020

                what a genius marketing!
                they implement flip camera design to make the phone more fragile, and easy to break. so that user will buy it again if it break

                  Anonymous, 27 Aug 2020Asus got into the 5000mAh battery game since the Zenfone 3 ... moreSure it's nothing new... But they did some tricks to accommodate that 5000mah battery in Zenfone 6.

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                    salarx, 27 Aug 2020That's really a valid argument. I remember Asus was ab... moreAsus got into the 5000mAh battery game since the Zenfone 3 series... This is nothing new for Asus

                      Anonymous, 27 Aug 2020But the battery isn't bigger than the 6, both 5k. The ... moreThat's really a valid argument. I remember Asus was able to put 5000mah battery in relatively smaller Zenfone 6, along with the jack. The way they did this was by using a sandwich motherboard design. The design had some issues though, it ended up being dead and you'll find many reports on that. Maybe they changed a design a bit this time to avoid those issues, we cannot know for sure until we get a teardown video. Let's see how they utilized that bottom part this time.

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                        salarx, 26 Aug 2020Nothing? I have two things that Customer gains : 1. Bigge... moreBut the battery isn't bigger than the 6, both 5k. The headphone jack actually requires relatively little space, especially on such a large phone, with the cameras at the top and 3,5 at the bottom ;]

                          This somehow reminds me of the ZTE nubia Z20 but without the secondary screen at the rear. But that said, it's glad to see ASUS keep the flip motor mechanism for the Zenfone 7. It does look good.

                            Anders, 26 Aug 2020Don't make much profit? Well they won't sell many... moreI was talking about profit margins. Speaking of profit margins, ironically you're praising a brand who has the highest profit margins in the world of android.

                            http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/03/14/sony-xperia-phones-generate-highest-unit-profit-in-android-world/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+XperiaBlog+%28Xperia+Blog%29

                            I get that many here are disappointed by the removal of jack, and many who prefer the LCD over OLEDs (Me being one of them). But you'll be surprised to know that among the best selling flagships, none have a headphone jack. So if your claims were right, Samsung, OnePlus and Apple would have been losing money, and especially OnePlus who has gradually increased prices over years. The unique selling point of Zenfone 6 wasn't a headphone jack, Redmi K20 Pro had it and it was notchless too. People bought it for its unique camera setup. Same claims were made with Rog Phone 3 when it was launched, that what's the use of a gaming phone without a Jack, but it's doing well (atleast in India, where it starts at 568 Euro). I'm pretty sure wherever OnePlus 8 pro is sold, Zenfone 7 pro is going to be priced around it, and definitely below the 8T Pro. It has already been 4-5 years, and about time to move on from ancient tech called 3.5mm jack, the only reason it exists is because there are legacy device which still depend on it and aren't frequently refreshed as the case with smartphones.

                              Anonymous, 27 Aug 2020It is selling 3x more than than previous model. More than s... moreLinks or didn't happen.
                              Sony couldn't even sell more than half their stock in Q1 2020.

                                [deleted post]Sure if you listen to 128kbps highly compressed mp3 files.
                                Try flac files with high end headphones.

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                                  Anders, 26 Aug 2020The reason the new Xperia 1 mark 2 hasn't been selling... moreIt is selling 3x more than than previous model. More than sony was expecting.
                                  This is why they are having issue to supply all units being ordered.

                                  It was the #17 overall in Taiwan in July, the #1 among android flagships.
                                  Taiwan has Oppo, Huawei and Samsung flagships there.
                                  It outsold S20 Ultra, Find X2/ 2 Pro and P40 Pro in july.


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                                    PepperPot, 26 Aug 2020I'm not convinced headphone jack people will accept an... moreI would have gotten it but they put too small of a battery on it. For something geared at entertainment viewing and videography, it needed a better battery (at MINIMUM 4,500 mAH).

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                                      sadh, 27 Aug 2020Actually, usb c provides a better quality than jack 3.5 ... moreNot it doesn't, it all depends on the implementation of each design.

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                                        Anonymous, 27 Aug 2020Your math is wrong. Zenfone 6 initially had the introductio... moreHow much is price difference between 550 and 900? 350. (No, zen6 is 500 and Gsmarena mentioned the Pro having 950 price tag. So in this case, price difference is 450)

                                        So when i said price increase, it goes up 450 of previously 500. It's almost 100%.

                                        BUT if you calculate it in reverse, yes it is 50% difference between 950 and 500

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