Huawei P50 series will be the first to use Sony's 1" IMX800 sensor, rumor claims

25 February 2021
The P40 series had 1/1.28" sensors. Samsung just announced a 1/1.12" sensor, this Sony sensor will be larger than both of them.

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Umm... Panasonic Lumix DMC-CM1?

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Anonymous, 18 Mar 2021http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/flow/item/23515_All_About_Qu... moreNo buddy. :3

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Anonymous, 17 Mar 2021I'm wondering... When will we get full RGB Bayer se... morehttp://www.allaboutsymbian.com/flow/item/23515_All_About_Quad_Bayer_Its_no_Pu.php

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I'm wondering...

When will we get full RGB Bayer sensors instead of these Quad Bayer sensors. like 33MP enough to record 8K video, and with RGB Bayer sensor too.

Since quad bayers are gimmick. They just output 12, 16, 27MP anyway. They should just release full RGB Bayer 33MP or 40MP, then process it in 40MP then downscale it to such resolution such as 10 or 12MP with more detail.

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Anonymous, 27 Feb 2021No, I didn't take the technology of the sensor into ac... moreNo. What I said was correct and also mentioned about the aperture already.....

Anonymous, 25 Feb 20219 stops the photographer talked about was for stills. Not v... moreWhose the photographer you're referring to?
Also, the 14-stops on the Samsung and iPhone are HDR 12but photos. Not regular RAW, which would be much lower.

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Anonymous, 27 Feb 2021Completely wrong. 1/2.3" type is related to the diagon... more"I clearly say that the diagonal (not area) of a 1" type sensor is NOT 2.3 times as large as the diagonal of a 1" type sensor as these are just names"
I wanted to write:
"I clearly said that the diagonal (not area) of a 1" type sensor is NOT 2.3 times as large as the diagonal of a 1/2.3" type sensor as these are just names"

"The diagonal of a 1/3.2" type sensor is approximately 2.8 times as large as the diagonal of a 1" type sensor. "I wanted to write the opposite.

"In many cases the diagonal of a 1/2.3" type sensor is only 3-4% larger than the diagonal of a 1/2" type sensor"
I wanted to write:
"In many cases the diagonal of a 1/2" type sensor is only 3-4% larger than the diagonal of a 1/2.3" type sensor"

"That's why the diagonal of a 1/2.3" type sensor is NOT 2.3 times as large as the diagonal of a 1" type sensor."
I wanted to write:
"That's why the diagonal of a 1" type sensor is NOT 2.3 times as large as the diagonal of a 1/2.3" type sensor."

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The pre-order number for Mate X2 ($2800 for 256GB, $3000 for 512GB) is fast approaching 10 million milestone. If the extraordinary demand for this $3000 Mate X2 is any indication, we will likely run into a situation where the demand will overwhelm the supply when P50 series is released. Some kind of strategy is needed to manage such a high demand gracefully.

My suggestion to Huawei:
- Remove P50 and P50Pro from the series, and only release P50Pro+, and price it at an appropriate high price, say $2000, so that the best Huawei phones can reach the largest number of Huawei enthusiasts.

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Anonymous, 26 Feb 2021Of course, it's not 2.3x. It should be bigger. it shou... moreCompletely wrong. 1/2.3" type is related to the diagonal and I clearly say that the diagonal (not area) of a 1" type sensor is NOT 2.3 times as large as the diagonal of a 1" type sensor as these are just names. Another example is the diagonal of a 1/3.2" type sensor. The diagonal of a 1/3.2" type sensor is approximately 2.8 times as large as the diagonal of a 1" type sensor. In many cases the diagonal of a 1/2.3" type sensor is only 3-4% larger than the diagonal of a 1/2" type sensor, but note that 2.3/2 = 1.15
The other part of your post is wrong as well as there isn't a proportional relationship between the diagonal and the sensor type name. That's why the diagonal of a 1/2.3" type sensor is NOT 2.3 times as large as the diagonal of a 1" type sensor. It's a very common misunderstanding. 1", 1/2.3", etc are just names that have no completely proportional relationship to the real diagonal.

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Anonymous, 27 Feb 2021Actually it will capture more light since the sensor area i... moreNo, as I said a large sensor area can still only capture the light that goes through the lens. That's why a large sensor doesn't automatically mean better. What I said is completely correct. It is a very common misunderstanding. Some people think in a way as if a large sensor magically produces photons, that's not the case.
Only in perfect light conditions (!) / base Iso a larger sensor will often capture more light because in this case a bad f number can be compensated with a longer exposure time (for example 1/1000s instead of 1/3000s) without blowing out highlights and without causing blur. But this doesn't change the amount of light per time.
A Vivo X60 Pro+ captures more light per time than a Canon Aps-c camera + f/3.5 kit lens.
A Galaxy S21 Ultra captures more light per time than a Panasonic 4/3" type camera + f/3.5 kit lens.
There are several phones that capture more light per time than the Panasonic Cm1.
The iPhone 12 Pro Max captures more light per time than the Nokia 808.

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Anonymous, 27 Feb 2021No, I didn't take the technology of the sensor into ac... moreActually it will capture more light since the sensor area is bigger. That is what differs from mirco four thirds from apsc and full frame. Sensor size actually matters.

Without google play is useless even is 200mp

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Anonymous, 27 Feb 2021That's because your are comparing devices with many ye... moreNo, I didn't take the technology of the sensor into account, but anyway, this wouldn't change the number of photons that fly to the sensor.
The Cm1 captures less light per time than several phones due to the much worse f number. A more efficient sensor would not change this at all. A sensor can only capture the light that goes through the lens. A large sensor doesn't magically produce photons. Large sensor only means large area.
A Vivo X60 Pro+ captures even more light per time than a Canon Aps-c camera + f/3.5 wide angle lens.
A Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra captures more light per time than a Panasonic 4/3" type camera + f/3.5 wide angle lens.
An iPhone 12 Pro Max captures slightly more light per time than a Nokia 808 and a Samsung Galaxy S9 captures slightly more light per time than a Nokia Lumia 1020.

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Anonymous, 26 Feb 2021Samsung is all into specwars when it comes to their sensors... moreYeah that's a cute story but we will stick with reality.

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Anonymous, 26 Feb 2021These are just the sensor type names, not the real sizes. F... moreThat's because your are comparing devices with many years difference. As well as much different apertures. Thecm1 is a number of years older and has a dimmer aperture.
Given the same tech the larger sensor will perform better.

Anonymous, 26 Feb 2021Tell me what is it that you don't like about it that m... morethese are just some haters and DxOmark believers.

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The low light wide angle performance of certain smartphones is already so good, I think that the tele capabilities are far more interesting. If one could double the angular resolution of the S21 Ultra periscope camera, this would be quite exciting.

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Anonymous, 26 Feb 2021These are just the sensor type names, not the real sizes. F... moreOf course, it's not 2.3x. It should be bigger. it should be 5.29x, due to sensor size being an area which is 2 dimensional (assuming that the sensor ratios are equal) - HOWEVER, this is not the case with sensor sizes (types) as their dimension types are NOT standardized. but should still be bigger than 2.3x.
However when things are Standardized, comparison of sizes in terms of ratio (times), it doesn't matter if it the real size is used or not - when comparing, the variables cancels out.
Wish I can attach the proof here, but it can be easily work out on paper

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DZ1989, 26 Feb 2021Current Top 17 :) I: 1" Panasonic CM1 II: 1/1,2&qu... moreThese are just the sensor type names, not the real sizes. For example the diagonal of a 1" type sensor is not 2.3 times as large as the diagonal of a 1/2.3 " type sensor as these are just names.
Furthermore, sensor size isn't that important. More important is the amount of light per time that can be captured with the camera hardware. In this regard, the iPhone 12 Pro Max captures about the same amount of light per time as the Panasonic Cm1 and phones like the Huawei P30 Pro, BBK Oneplus 8 Pro, Xiaomi Note 10, Lenovo Motorola Edge+, Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra, BBK Vivo X60 Pro+ capture more light per time than the Cm1. The Vivo X60 Pro+ captures twice(!) as much light per time as the Cm1 and even has OIS.
Sensor size is relevant for less noisy shadows at base Iso, but if you combine different exposures with a small sensor, then the shadows might be even less noisy. The problem are moving objects, so Google mainly relies on combining exposures with the same exposure settings, so Google's shadows don't look very good.

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DZ1989, 26 Feb 2021Current Top 17 :) I: 1" Panasonic CM1 II: 1/1,2&qu... moreNice post man Thanks a Lot 👍