Carbon 1 MK II is first phone in the world with a carbon fiber monocoque

01 March 2021
This makes the phone quite light (125g) and thin (6.3 mm). Each carbon fiber shell is hand-molded by experienced engineers.

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I was very excited to find something like Carbon, I liked the concept so much that I even wanted to become a local reseller. Sadly I didn't know that I am dealing with a very irresponsible company.
After lots of trials I could finally speak to the Sales Manager which promised to send me a pricelist for our collaboration but that never happened.
I waited 3 weeks and then finally I decided that I will order at least one piece to try it out. I placed the order from a business account and I was expecting NOT to pay VAT (as it should be in the EU), but nevertheless I was charged the full gross price. I've sent an email asking a VAT return, but I've never got an answer on that.
The phone came pretty fast (in 3 days) but then I found out that the phone is actually not that good. Here are my impressions:

- The phone gets very hot after a couple minutes of usage, I installed an app and after 5-10 mins of videochat the CPU is over 40 degrees C
- The connections are unstable, WiFi gets often dropped, Mobile net also gets often dropped
- Battery lasts for a very short time, my 4 year old Samsung with 66% capacity lasts 3 times more
- Camera doesn't focus in many apps, so you get blurred pictures. Otherwise, if you manage to focus properly, the quality is OK
- The sound is very bad, I have trouble hearing others and every other person had trouble hearing me. Literally every person who I called (phone, WhatsApp, Messenger, anything) said that I sound like I was speaking from far away
- Can't set different ringtones for the 2 SIMs, maybe that's an Android problem, but I didn't like it
- Proximity sensor doesn't work, many times when my phone is at my ear some random things get pressed on the screen
- The stock Android is nice, but lacks some nice features that Samsung's One UI has, for a person coming from Samsung environment, the Carbon UI just sucks

The biggest problem is anyway, the communication with Carbon. My emails are not answered, I have to send many reminders to receive one answer.
The tragedy came when I wanted to send back the phone. Somebody immediately contacted me and wanted to get my feedback, but I had to insist many times to get the return address from them. I've sent my return intention on Aug 3 and they've sent me the return address on Aug 9. I've sent back the phone on Aug 14 and up until now (Sep 4) I didn't receive my money back.
I start believing that I will never get my money back and I am sad that a nice idea can die in the hands of some irresponsible people...
Think twice before ordering from them and don't believe that the phone is something extraordinary. The marketing is good, but the technology sucks and the company is a disappointment.

    Anonymous, 01 Apr 2021So where was Carbon's mark one?Actually, there used to be one last year with Helio P90 and 128GB internal storage. This 2021 version now has Helio P95 and 256GB internal storage. But the rest is pretty much identical.

      Since this phone was made entirely out of carbon fibre, I wonder if it is possible to have wireless charging support with a carbon fibre back panel. I deeply aware that phones with glass and aluminium back panel have no problem providing wireless charging support, but no one has ever attempted to do it with a carbon fibre back panel. It would be intriguing to find that out.

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        • Anonymous
        • th7
        • 01 Apr 2021

        So where was Carbon's mark one?

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          • Ajay
          • gN@
          • 04 Mar 2021

          Battery mah very low not good only 3000 mah😞😞

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            • Anonymous
            • gDf
            • 04 Mar 2021

            Why they did not use Aramid in combination with Carbon Fiber? The texture is the same and Aramid has 0 impact on signal quality.....

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              • Anonymous
              • a4V
              • 03 Mar 2021

              Hats off to resilient entrepreneurs innovating and showing how to make a difference with very little resources and a strong vision and conviction. Every consolidated brand with their deep pockets can access the latest technical features and components, this has been a pioneering exercise in the mobile industry that not even the stronger brands made before. Respect and admiration for that.

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                • Anonymous
                • mAy
                • 03 Mar 2021

                MarOMG, 02 Mar 2021Galaxy S20FE. The best and most powerfull smartphone I'... moreNothing wrong with Mediatek chipsets, keep on using your copied Iphone in the form of an Samsung with WhackUI 3.0

                  Fayth, 02 Mar 2021Sony, you are talking about SonyYes, Sony has similar front style, but the display ratio is too tall for me. I don't watch movies on a phone, and I use social media very rarely, so Sony's tall screen has no use for me.

                    SEUL8TR, 01 Mar 2021Not for people like you who can't afford it or has or ... moreGalaxy S20FE. The best and most powerfull smartphone I've ever used. And 300 euro less than this "prestige" Mediatek powered piece of dog poop... Vertu was "prestige", and "beautifull", and so on, but where are today? I want usabillity for my money, not "prestige". That is what smart people do.

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                      • 02 Mar 2021

                      Anonymous, 01 Mar 2021JerryRigEverything is gonna have a field day with this one...I am also waiting for that. Will be interesting to see if their claims are true.

                        r31ya, 02 Mar 2021Pretty sure carbon fiber cracks or shatter upon impact yes?... moreThe twill weave in the middle won't shatter. It resembles super-strong plywood. The ends of the phone could be anything.

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                          • Anonymous
                          • J5s
                          • 02 Mar 2021

                          800 Euro for a device with low-en mediatek chipset (Actually most Mediatekchipsets are low-end), also no charger included, terrible camera configuration, no 3.5mm, no 5G
                          Possibly never software updates...

                          This happens when you lost your mind hahaha.

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                            • K6j
                            • 02 Mar 2021

                            It looks beautiful. Of course, reviewers aren't going to like it because it doesn't have the heavy, glassy, bling-y, premium-y feel. The could increased thickness by a couple of millimetres and put a bigger battery in there. And it still would have kept weight down. But it's crazy. Phone makers started with plastic and aluminium keep things light. Now it's stainless steel and glass, some of the heaviest materials. Plus giant sizes. No wonder the average phone is about 200gms today, give or take. Carbon fibre is expensive, but lightness and strength apart, it's load bearing properties is its biggest advantage. If developed and worked on, carbon fibre can be cheaper.

                              There's so much wrong here.
                              - From the photos, it looks like their RF solution is to make the top and bottom ends out of carbon reinforced plastic. That's fairly strong but nothing compared to carbon fiber.
                              - That middle section being a flat piece of twill should be trivial to manufacture. I didn't see any fancy layering like you'd see on sports equipment.
                              - Why is that shell being cut with a router and filled with liquid? Whatever it is, it's slow and going to weaken the phone.
                              - Carbon fiber is tough but scratches easily.
                              - Low-end phone inside.

                                r31ya, 02 Mar 2021Pretty sure carbon fiber cracks or shatter upon impact yes?... moreIt's rather flexible, it can brick but that's not a easy thing to do even with regular one and much harder with let's say kelvar reinforced one. It's nothing new, used for ship and car parts for decades now. Only thing that people didn't menage to brick so far is NiTi as its a memory metal (when heated up it returns to it's casted form no matter what you did to it) but who knows me by someone even menage that.

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • LkB
                                  • 02 Mar 2021

                                  70 comments and none so far bashing the name.
                                  I am shocked.

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                                    • Fayth
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                                    • 02 Mar 2021

                                    afronoia, 01 Mar 2021That front view is exactly what I'm looking for in a p... moreSony, you are talking about Sony

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                                      • 02 Mar 2021

                                      RN, 02 Mar 2021Anyone wanna buy it JUST for collection? Yes

                                        With phones getting heavier and heavier, new materials like Carbon fiber need to be implemented to keep them light.
                                        Premium flagships can benefit from this.