Report: Samsung considered bringing back the 3D ToF sensor for the Galaxy S22, decided not to

19 April 2021
Apparently, it was Apple's decision to include a ToF sensor on the iPhone 12 Pro that caused Samsung to think about bringing it back.

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STE FAR 05, 19 Apr 2021Wrong both times. Huawei isn't going. Samsung and othe... moreHuawei no longer have Google, I use a Huawei phone, but to the majority they are already gone.
There's nothing innovative about Samsung's cameras and removing features is certainly not innovating - perhaps you should look up the definition of that word?

  • Anonymous

Demongornot, 19 Apr 20211: It is overkill to use a 3D ToF for the sole purpose of t... moreLOL, the Laser that has single point is better than ToF that has much more than 10.000.
If ToF had any need to have 5, 8 or 12MP, the makers would be doing already.

Just an excuse because ToF from Samsung Semicon is inferior to one made by Sony Semicon.

Aldwin123, 19 Apr 2021Huh? Did you even understand the Article? 1. Samsung decid... moreI said following. They are always on a lookout for what Apple will do next, 3.5mm jack gone? They laugh a bit and resist then copy. No earphones or charger in the box? Make fun of then copy. iPhone includes 3D ToF sensor? Hmm but we removed it

  • bbecker1983

No need, use the senors we have already, just defocus the main and use the 3x, defocis the ultrawide and use the main, we don't need ultra wide portrait mode. I'd rather S10+ pill cut out on the screen with a 12mp 1.22um f2 and a 8mp 100 fov for selfies than an overpriced 40mp that takes 10mp images

1: It is overkill to use a 3D ToF for the sole purpose of taking portrait shots, there are other methods who do much better as 3D ToF have a low depth map resolution anyway.
2: Laser autofocus is better than 3D ToF autofocus as it is less complex.
3: If they don't intend on using 3D ToF for AR and other real 3D uses, it is useless anyway.
4: If they intend on using 3D ToF for AR and other 3D uses, they better crank up the sensor and depth map resolution significantly.
5: If they were not stubborn, they would have switched to a continuously variable zoom periscope for the telephoto, which, with a bit of work on the focus part, would make native portrait shots without relying on any 3D ToF, depth camera or AI to blur the background that would be done for real, it would also allow for amazing Macro at the same time.

  • Anonymous

ToF may disapper now, but maybe back in the future.

ToF sensor is useless anyway. better use that space for something useful

rghaleb, 19 Apr 2021Samsung is now shamelessly following Apple's every move...Huh? Did you even understand the Article?
1. Samsung decide NOT to put ToF sensor to the next Galaxy S
2. Samsung use ToF FIRST (S10 5G)

s21 has one of best focus and bokeh in the market.PDAF, AI chip and multiple lens combination does the job. obviously,no need to use ToF.s21u can also shoot night portrait.lidar is not necessary either.

Strides of hair on the right of the first image are blurred, so separation without ToF on S21U isn't great

Samsung is now shamelessly following Apple's every move...

  • Anonymous

wongwatt, 19 Apr 2021No Huawei, no need to bother pushing camera tech. Without ... morename explains it all lol

wongwatt, 19 Apr 2021No Huawei, no need to bother pushing camera tech. Without ... moreWrong both times. Huawei isn't going. Samsung and others are innovating.

No Huawei, no need to bother pushing camera tech.
Without the former no.1 they're all downgrading their flagships and they will keep doing it incrementally until there's nothing left.

  • Sammyboi1991

So no more 3D scanning? First Sony dropped it, now Samsung?

  • Anonymous

Are these better at Bokeh than 9PV?

Please add a ToF to the front camera. The LG G8s has a ToF at the front and is significantly better at facial recognition, especially at night.

  • Anonymous

Why do they care what Apple put in theirs, just do what they feel that works the best. Feels like Samsung has no more vision.

  • Anonymous

Mrboss, 19 Apr 2021Even Huawei didn't have any autofocus issues without l... moreToF is not just for fake bokeh.
It can assist focus too, like Laser.

Even Huawei didn't have any autofocus issues without laser Af. Even Xiaomi did not have that issue despite using an 108 Mp HMX with more resolution, which means harder read time for the isp, yet they don't have laser af, yet thet don't have AF issues. Why not just put an TOF so edge detection could be near perfect like Huawei and Apple. Apple used to be the worse in edges, but with 12 Pro, they are one of the best