Nikkei: Apple is starting mass production of the M2 chips this month using TSMC's N5P process

27 April 2021
N5P is a refinement of TSMC's original 5 nm process called N5, which further increases clock speeds and reduces power usage over N7.

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pro, 27 Apr 2021programmers say yes but for an ordinary user like you will ... moreWhat are the benefits for programers?

Is this specifically programming on iOS or programming overall???

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    • iB0
    • 27 Apr 2021

    Notebookcheck leaked figures indicating that the M1X will match 5800X 10900K ( well above 100w) m2 have around 15% ipc increase over m1x to a fraction of the power consumption

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      • kky
      • 27 Apr 2021

      So 5% and 10%.
      But they can't just say that.

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        • 27 Apr 2021

        Anonymous, 27 Apr 2021Yeah, only YOU care, companies like to rake in the billions... moreYou are wrong. Only reading the comments below you can figure it, you don't need to be very intelligent to watch it. A lot of people care and here the majority too, like where i live. So PC wins here in sales and laptops as a complement but not from Apple, that's for sure.

        Repeating your imaginary truth or wish will not make it real.

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          • 27 Apr 2021

          Anonymous, 27 Apr 2021I care and where i live in Europe the majority. We also use... moreYeah, only YOU care, companies like to rake in the billions.


          Overall profits wise PC is niche, and laptops are the way to go for companies as that's what making them earn.

            aap, 27 Apr 2021N5P is only 10% faster and 5% better power consumption over... morehere is one illiterate. And n5p isn't a ipc gain or working process node you child. It's a binning format of chip fabrication

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              • 27 Apr 2021

              IpsDisplay, 27 Apr 2021Hardware upgrades like these are basically wasted by Mac os... moreAs an intel/windows 10 user I think Apple silicon and the ecosystem unification using all products from Ipad to Imac the same CPU is the best news we saw in years. It may take some years but most software I use works on M1 so I may move to Mac in the nbear future

              A fanless laptop that has desktop level performance? it is kind of amazing. When the 8/16 high performance core CPUs come out x86 will be done.

              Some of use use computers for image/video editing and/or 3D design so a better GPU is welcome; for gaming I rather have a console.

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                • iB0
                • 27 Apr 2021

                IcyJay30, 27 Apr 2021Qualcomm should have gone with Tsmc instead of samsung for ... moreApple plays in another division compare to all others today's Qualcomm shows zero innovation stagnated

                  IcyJay30, 27 Apr 2021Qualcomm should have gone with Tsmc instead of samsung for ... moreAmen! SD 888 heating up is a problem that will only amplify as it ages.

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                    • 27 Apr 2021

                    Please put m1 chip on iPad mini

                      I can't wait for apple to make it's Mac os software more compatible with these new chips. The current software is still optimized for Intel and AMD PC chips.

                        Qualcomm should have gone with Tsmc instead of samsung for Snapdragon 888.

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                          • iB0
                          • 27 Apr 2021

                          N5P is only 10% faster and 5% better power consumption over N5 but can't wait to see Intel and AMD gets destroyed, hope the m2 is based on arm v9 , x86 need a boost to match performance windows need to boot Linux with a good win32 subsystem

                            AnonD-940827, 27 Apr 2021Wait? What? Apple? Hmm. Since when did apple make their own... moreNo dude. We make chips with apples. They are tasty..

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                              • iB0
                              • 27 Apr 2021

                              Anonymous, 27 Apr 2021Another advantage for Windows. Windows is very old and the filesystem feels stone age if you use flash drives better switch to Linux with proper error correcting filesystem even a 4gb laptop flying in comparison

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                                • 27 Apr 2021

                                Anonymous, 27 Apr 2021I care and where i live in Europe the majority. We also use... morePC ma$ter race wins every time.
                                Lower tier Mac-Quack gimmick can't compete with Windows which is the people's choice!!

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                                  • 27 Apr 2021

                                  Huaweo has been banned everywhere and most companies are prohibited to work with them and for them.
                                  Wonder why China company TSMC allows to make CPUs for Apple.
                                  There are tons of others brands they can make for for example Huawei or Xiaomi etc.

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                                    • 27 Apr 2021

                                    salarx, 27 Apr 2021Not gonna happen, any time soon, MacOS UI isn't design... moreAnother advantage for Windows.

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                                      • 27 Apr 2021

                                      Anonymous, 27 Apr 2021Macs have specific use cases such as video editing, graphic... moreAll those things and more can be done ten times better on Windows.
                                      Only people who prefer Macs are those who are used to the editing software or native Mac apps for years.

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                                        • ntJ
                                        • 27 Apr 2021

                                        Anonymous, 27 Apr 2021you can virtualize Windows in Mac OS through parallels 16.5... moreGives you 60% functionality. Tons of bugs and other issues people don't have with native Windows.
                                        People want a product that just works. They don't want to mess with done virtual environment stuff. Only geeky tech guys do that. Normal users are going to reject a Mac for more familiar Windows laptop