Apple found in breach of EU competition law over unfair App Store tax policy

30 April 2021
If ratified, Cupertino could be in for a multi-billion fine.

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  • 03 May 2021

Anonymous, 03 May 2021What is the Poco f2 like on daily use ? is it good on batte... moreIt is pretty good

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    • Anonymous
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    • 03 May 2021

    Anonymous, 02 May 2021Apple is a company that makes quality products. I typed thi... moreContinue dreaming.

      Anonymous, 02 May 2021It's also funny how 30% is suddenly "too much&quo... moreWell from an App developer's perspective it is not much of a case. But when you go through all the statements issued by EU(including ones not mentioned in the article), a part of this also on consumer's choice.
      Prime example is Apple Music. You can subscribe to Apple Music or choose Spotify, Tidal etc.
      Since the other apps have to use IAP from Apple and can't offer other alternatives, it increases the prices at the consumer end. This is anti-competitive behavior.

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        • Anonymous
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        • 03 May 2021

        shiz, 02 May 2021apple always say they give people a choice but they don’t, ... moreiOS should be allowed to run on other hardware. And apple hardware should be able to run android. That is real choice.

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          • 03 May 2021

          [deleted post]What is the Poco f2 like on daily use ? is it good on battery life?
          I do not game and currently ios, but I am looking at getting an android phone again too

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            • 02 May 2021

            [deleted post]Very true. Go for android and avoid all headaches.

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              • 02 May 2021

              [deleted post]Nothing wrong with products either made in , assembled in, designed in or whatever in China
              You might not like Chinese government but that doesn’t mean you have to be prejudiced against Chinese people or products.

              I’m English and I have no issues with any company or nationalities, and I love my Chinese products and friends

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                • 02 May 2021

                Anonymous, 02 May 2021Apple is a company that makes quality products. I typed thi... moreReally??

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                  • Anonymous
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                  • 02 May 2021

                  [deleted post]Apple is a company that makes quality products. I typed this response from my iPhone.

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                    • 02 May 2021

                    Kriegsherr, 01 May 2021seriously? school would have helped.Like learning to read all my responses to my post? School would have helped. Yeah. LOL

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                      • Anonymous
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                      • 02 May 2021

                      AnonD-994147, 02 May 2021“Unfair” competition. Apple is not taking these taxes fro... moreIt's also funny how 30% is suddenly "too much" for providing literally everything from frameworks, API's to hosting and ultimately exposure via app stores, because if you're not on official app store, you essentially don't exist. And same applies even for Android and its GooglePlay, despite 3rd party app stores and ability to sideload. People just don't do that. Should we remind everyone how much publishers used to take in the past (hint, the ratio was reversed and creator only got 30% !)? Since when has 7€ profit out of 10€ selling price became an uber bad deal? If creators had to provide everything themselves and pay a hosting fee too because bandwidth isn't free, I wonder how much that would cost them...

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                        • 02 May 2021

                        apple always say they give people a choice but they don’t, you can only use apple pay to make contactless payment but on android you can use loads, if you try pay for any service inside the appstore it’s cost way more then going directly to the service website you want to buy from and most people don’t know that so the end up paying through the appstore that’s the main problem Spotify trying to make here

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                          • 02 May 2021

                          Anonymous, 02 May 2021Consumers also love money. Your mom and dad love money. Any... more“Unfair” competition.
                          Apple is not taking these taxes from yesterday. Why some big companies (like Spotify or Netflix) decide only now to sue them? I tell you why, because they saw Apple is making so much money so they said “We want to make more money too”. “We want a piece of that nice pie Apple is having”.
                          Of course, when some big company (Apple in this case) is making so much money there will always be voices saying “Surely they can’t make so much money legally, surely they are doing something wrong or unfair”. Is the type of behaviour “Why I never thought of that?”
                          Not to mention for smaller companies Apple even reduce the taxes to 15% in order to help them.
                          Like I said, these taxes are not new, but many companies decided only now to start asking questions because they do not like that only Apple is making nice money.
                          That is why I said they love money. The sad true is, that is not enough just to love money, you need to be smart too about it.
                          Bottom line, doesn’t necessarily mean Apple did something bad, it just means they thought about things before other companies (in other words, they were being smart).

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                            • Anonymous
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                            • 02 May 2021

                            beep bop boop, 01 May 2021so does every other company in existenceNot only companies. People love money. You love money. It's stupid to say that companies love money. People who say that seem to think that they are so smart to know the fact that everyone knows.

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                              • 02 May 2021

                              AnonD-994147, 01 May 2021“Poor Spotify and Netflix”. They don’t love money, they jus... moreConsumers also love money. Your mom and dad love money. Anyway, you missed the point completely. It's not about loving money. It's about unfair competition.

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                                • 02 May 2021

                                Hardware vendors shouldn't sell software. Period. If the US wasn't a dozen corporations in a trenchcoat they'd tear Apple Hardware (Naturally this would include the OS) apart from Apple Software (Apps).

                                Because otherwise a hardware company can subsidize their own domination of the market using their software (Like Apple and Xiaomi are doing) and then if they can (Only Apple can do this, since Xiaomi phones are Custom ROM-friendly) start cranking up the prices for all services - and without competition there will be no other option for consumers than to accept their fate.

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                                  • 01 May 2021

                                  beep bop boop, 01 May 2021are they though? Yes they are.

                                    Anonymous, 01 May 2021Yes but they are very innovative compared with Apple.are they though?

                                      EUstice prevail.

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                                        • 01 May 2021

                                        Anonymous, 01 May 2021What's should they subscribe to then? apple music and Apple tv?