Mini-LED MacBook Pro to launch in limited supply this year
- NeonHD
- gmF
- 27 May 2021
Anonymous, 26 May 2021OLED is garbage and till recently has been plagued with unr... moreThat's just your preference mate. To you they might have "unrealistic colors", but to other people those colors are as vivid as how they like it.
I don't really care for HDR that much, at least not on smartphones. The fact that black pixels turn off completely on AMOLED is already a win.
I also own an AMOLED phone and while there is this blue-light shifting issue on it, I am still perfectly happy with it.
I think miniLED and AMOLED are both equally as good, but AMOLED will always be considered an upgrade from mediocre-grade IPS LCD. I currently use an LCD monitor and I absolutely cannot stand the horrible bright backlight. The backlight is so bright that it makes blacks look like blue. I am so done with IPS LCD and will be buying a VA monitor next time.
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- 49J
- 26 May 2021
NeonHD, 20 May 2021"Mini-led has now officialy 0 black level as Oled"... moreOLED is garbage and till recently has been plagued with unrealistic colors.
OLED can't even reach the HDR standards so they created lower standards just so OLED tv and cheap LEDs can say they're HDR cabable original specs for HDR was a minimum of a 1000 nits which OLED struggles with.
Even new standards are being lowered because of the garbage OLED.
I'm saying this and both my phones are OLED . But I would never buy an OLED TV when I can get a better LED for the same price.
- NeonHD
- gmF
- 20 May 2021
So, 20 May 2021So..
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stop lying
Mini-led has now officialy 0 blac... more"Mini-led has now officialy 0 black level as Oled"
Citation needed.
I was just speaking from my gut feeling, but after a quick search I found that the black levels are around 0.05 nits, not entirely 0. The increased local dimming zones is nice, but I still prefer the luxury of having individual pixels turned off in OLED. Saves a lot of battery too.
Again don't get me wrong, I like the direction towards MiniLED and it is far much better than IPS LCD, but OLED is entirely something else.
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- Nick Tegrataker
- Xpf
- 20 May 2021
Anonymous, 20 May 2021Oled still having better blacks. They both have over 1000000:1 contrast ratio, so the black level is pretty much the same. It's just that OLED can do local dimming at more granular levels than mini LED and won't show any blooming when pushed really far (To be fair though, 2500 local dimming zones is a LOT for 12.9 inch display - In comparison, MSI Creator 17 only has 240 of them on a much larger 17.3 inch canvas).
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- nDy
- 20 May 2021
Nick Tegrataker, 19 May 2021Burn in and wear out would be much more prominent issues fo... moreSo...
Agree...a man who understand how displays should work
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- nDy
- 20 May 2021
NeonHD, 20 May 2021No but I want deep blacks and vivid colors. Another reason ... moreSo..
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stop lying
Mini-led has now officialy 0 black level as Oled
Oled blue pixels fade away fast
Maybe, for desktop OS, burn-IN in windows 10 can still happen...yes, even in 2021
higher brightness mini-led for true XDR quality
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- nDy
- 20 May 2021
Anonymous, 20 May 2021Oled still having better blacks. Check the level...both mini-Led and oled have 0 level for black
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- Anonymous
- Mkm
- 20 May 2021
Nick Tegrataker, 20 May 2021Lol that's absolutely false. Read what I wrote again.Oled still having better blacks.
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- Nick Tegrataker
- Xpf
- 20 May 2021
Anonymous, 20 May 2021Lol you need to look into these again, it's no better ... moreLol that's absolutely false. Read what I wrote again.
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- Anonymous
- IYD
- 20 May 2021
Nick Tegrataker, 19 May 2021"OLED/AMOLED is superior when it comes to display qual... moreLol you need to look into these again, it's no better than an Oled.
Only difference is higher brightness
- NeonHD
- gmF
- 20 May 2021
Anonymous, 19 May 2021You want the PWM flicker, burn-in, etc.?
OLED on a lapto... moreNo but I want deep blacks and vivid colors. Another reason why I'll be getting the ASUS ZenBook S as my next laptop.
Not saying miniLED is bad, but OLED gets me far more excited.
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- Nick Tegrataker
- Xpf
- 19 May 2021
Anonymous, 19 May 2021Burn in is way over exaggerated. Not to mention lcd can hav... moreBurn in and wear out would be much more prominent issues for a device people usually keep for 4 years or more than for a smartphone, and this would become especially crucial for creators who strive for colour accuracy. LCD isn't completely immune to problems either but still much more so to long-term ones compared to OLED.
On the other hand, reflectivity isn't much of an issue since this is a laptop we're talking about - most people use it indoor, and a mini LED can get a lot brighter than OLED especially on a larger display. A screen visibility wouldn't be an issue.
OLED is better suited for a small phone display, but mini LED is clearly the choice for a laptop.
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- Anonymous
- kky
- 19 May 2021
Nick Tegrataker, 19 May 2021"OLED/AMOLED is superior when it comes to display qual... moreBurn in is way over exaggerated. Not to mention lcd can have pixel and backlight issues. It's not immune to problems.
Oled is plenty bright and usually less reflective in comparison to most phones with lcd. And the difference of reflectance, blacks, and viewing angles usually is more visible the bigger the display.
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- Anonymous
- 7kk
- 19 May 2021
xxspamxx, 19 May 2021Why would you even want a mini led on a smartphone? OLED/AM... moreYeah, sure YOU can see per-pixel dimming & bright stars that are just 1 pixel wide on a smartphone with 400+ ppi, that u require OLED and mini-led won't cut it, yeah
This amazes me really!
Sure OLED is more than good enough for mobiles compared to traditinoal LCDs & we don't really need micro-LED or mini-LED on phones bcoz of the higher ppi, but that reasoning of yours was clearly not well informed.
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- Nick Tegrataker
- Xpf
- 19 May 2021
xxspamxx, 19 May 2021Why would you even want a mini led on a smartphone? OLED/AM... more"OLED/AMOLED is superior when it comes to display quality"
Not necessarily. Mini LED has higher brightness, no PWM flickering, no burn in/pixel wear out over long term usage.. it's also easier to achieve VRR since the colour reproduction does not change drastically as the refresh rate increases or decreases, unlike OLED.
I do agree that it is less suitable for phones, though.
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- Anonymous
- p%B
- 19 May 2021
IpsDisplay, 19 May 2021Zero burn in chance
Longer longevity overall
Higher b... moreA good quality LCD will be better than a poor quality Oled (just look at all this 200-300EUR phones with Oled displays). Even the more expensive ones can have problems (like some OnePlus models or Samsung models; even iPhone models).
But sadly, also the budget phones with LCD displays are not that good. Especially in brightness level. The only phones with good quality LCD displays I used were iPhones. And maybe the Xiaomi Mi10T/10T Pro series (even though I just test them for short while, I didn't own them). All the others had average quality LCD displays.
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- Anonymous
- p%B
- 19 May 2021
Anonymous, 19 May 2021Let the scalping begin. PS5 was rookie numbers.Lol, you can't do "scalping" when there are similar other products on the market.
And before telling me Xbox and PS5 are similar. No, they are not. They are both consoles, true, but they follow completely different paths, especially nowadays. So, people wanting a PS5, have the only other alternative a PS4 (which by the way, that is why in my country, stocks of PS4 have disappeared also).
Coming back to this post, you have other alternatives to this mini-LED MacBook Pro. You have MacBook Air, MacBook Pro (without mini-LED), also there is the newly iPad Pro's. Is not like mini-LED will be the only reason people will buy a new MacBook Pro. And even if it was, it will be for very few people (so, no reason for "scalping").
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- Anonymous
- mkc
- 19 May 2021
Let the scalping begin. PS5 was rookie numbers.
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- Anonymous
- kky
- 19 May 2021
IpsDisplay, 19 May 2021Zero burn in chance Longer longevity overall Higher b... moreHi there. You must be new here