Leak: the Sony WF-1000XM4 will have better ANC, LDAC support and longer battery life

27 May 2021
The improved feature set will be courtesy of a custom chip dubbed the Sony V1.

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786, 31 May 2021So do I, in black.mine is in grey

    Anonymous, 29 May 2021NW-ZX300 is the best buy if you want to listen to portable ... moreyes, high resolution player such as sony nw-zx300 is best way to listen music, comparing to phones, it's like pagani zonda s in performance terms and all phones (apart from asus rog 5 and onkyo dp-cmx1) are like golf gtis, focus st or honda type r

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      imparanoic, 29 May 2021I have wh-1000xm3 So do I, in black.

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        imparanoic, 29 May 2021Also their Mid range and more portable nw-zx300 and success... moreNW-ZX300 is the best buy if you want to listen to portable music. It's really hard to explain to mobile users why she or he should have portable music player besides the phone but if they give it a try at least half would convert. I stopped listening to wired music on my phone long time ago, just use it for Bluetooth but it's my Walkman that does all the heavy lifting when I got on the long walks.

          imparanoic, 29 May 2021I have wh-1000xm3 For my model of Wh-1000xm2 LDAC worked on Snapdragon, Exynos or Mediatek chips - it just needed Android 8+.
          But Sony does have a really bad software and if you select you prefer "signal stability" it often switches to subpar AAC.

            Valinor, 28 May 2021Not true, sony has had support on android for years. I'... moreI have wh-1000xm3

              Jean Neymar, 28 May 2021Half true as the WM1A and WM1Z are still strong contenders ... moreAlso their Mid range and more portable nw-zx300 and successor Model nw-zx507 sounds so awesome, it's not even that far from nw-wm1a but significantly better than entry level nw-a105

                Fearghast, 28 May 2021True, Sony has no clue on how to make a proper DAC by themselves.Half true as the WM1A and WM1Z are still strong contenders in the portable Audiophile gears and they have very strong DAC through Sony's S-Master solutions.

                  No existing Apple device can handle LDAC. Unless you're talking about the Android version of Apple Music, which still needs a lot of refinements to be reliable

                    imparanoic, 28 May 2021according to head fi, even if you unlock developer mode and... moreIn my use, I even use the sony app and only when launched it start in LDAC, I hear the difference. It stays the same unless I change it.

                    Weird that it affect some Exynos and other not perhaps? Or even randomly? I know that Exynos is/was kinda shitty but come on :/

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                      Dan, 28 May 2021Batteries were fine to begin with but after about a year th... moreXM3s have replaceable batteries. You can find replacements probably in any local store. Looks like XM4s won't have this feature as they're now IPX4 protected. Although, it's probably still in the realm of managing being opened.
                      For me, XM4s sound a little on the expensive side for €280. I was cautious about waiting for it thinking that it would cost around €230, but that additional €50 is a little much for me. Maybe I'll have to wait a little more.

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                        imparanoic, 28 May 2021yes, i am aware, but the system on a chip must also support... moreNot true, sony has had support on android for years. I've had ldac with exynos for years.
                        Maybe you are talking about wf-1000xm3, those dont support ldac. Its not the phone, its the earphones.

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                          imparanoic, 28 May 2021according to head fi, even if you unlock developer mode and... moreNot true, LDAC has been available for years now on samsung exynos phones.

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                            Anonymous, 28 May 2021Unless they fixed the issues with the WF-1000XM3, the xm4 i... moreAs an xm3 owner, I agree on the random restarts. They seriously need to fix that issue.

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                              • 28 May 2021

                              The xm3 buds where a game changer when they came out 2 years ago and even today it's one of the best.
                              1 of the best in sq (for tws)
                              1 of the best anc (only the bose are better)
                              Good call quality (although people can hear the background)
                              Good battery life.

                              Points of improvement where
                              Ip rating
                              Better ambient sound mode
                              A smaller case (if you don't use a car daily)
                              Smaller design
                              And people like wireless charging.

                              The xm4 seem to have improved on everything and then some.
                              If they've improved enough I'd buy it instantly for €280.
                              As i want new buds but all the others that are better in something are worse the other things.

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                                imparanoic, 28 May 2021Good to see that sony is still supporting ldacLdac is developed by Sony.
                                They made it available for free on Android phones to make it more interesting for people to buy their products.

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                                  Anonymous, 28 May 2021Unless they fixed the issues with the WF-1000XM3, the xm4 i... moreBatteries were fine to begin with but after about a year they dropped off to two or three hours and after 18 months I could only use them for about 35 minutes consecutively before the battery went out. I thought this was pretty bad, especially as my other headphone phones from b o s e could run about 15 hours.

                                    GregLu, 28 May 2021Sorry to say but I have a Note10+ on Exynos and it support ... moreaccording to head fi, even if you unlock developer mode and force select ldac codec, on exynos phones will revert back to standard bluetooth as Exynos only supports bluetooth 5.0, seen this comment mentioned quite often, on the other hand, on samsung snapdragon devices, no issues.

                                    I have tried ldac on my s6 tab which uses snapdragon 855 after unlocking it on developers mode, no issues ldac

                                      Exyvia, 28 May 2021If more people complain about Sony's DAC maybe they mi... moreTrue, Sony has no clue on how to make a proper DAC by themselves.

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                                        • 28 May 2021

                                        Unlike all Apple products, with these you'll be able to enjoy the newest Apple Music streaming CD quality music.

                                        Enjoy