Samsung Galaxy A80 gets updated with July 2021 Android security patch
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AnonD-909757, 25 Jul 2021Well, the Antutu score heavily disagree with that : K20 Pr... morepoco f2 pro 6gb version has Lpddr5
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The Android Freak, 25 Jul 2021A80 was more than 600USD in my country at the time of launc... moreIt isn't that much more than the Galaxy A71 who has the same chip and was released one year latter (prices of the chip got down) and have similar specs, if anything the A80 have better specs except for a missing 3.5mm Jack.
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9995&idPhone2=9659#diff-
Don't get into "pop up are expensive" nonsense, phones with pop up are among the cheapest, it was true for the K20, the K30 & Poco F2 Pro, and many other 100-200 range ones.
Meanwhile, ZTE is selling at a loss (even without the underdisplay camera, the Axon 20 price doesn't make sense) just to surf on that hype wave and get popularity.
I'd happily pay an extra for uninterrupted display and privacy anyway, so does many others, hence why the OnePlus 7(t) Pro did sell well.
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The Android Freak, 25 Jul 2021Display issues wont be there. I have used almost all the ph... moreEven if the display and quality issues are fixed, the expensive R&D cost will get to users one day and privacy is still an issue.
They didn't try "something new", they were just the first to release something extremely overhyped that was already supposed to be released with the Oppo Find X2, Oppo who wouldn't be what they are today without the amazing Find X and its great pop up which is still the only one to have both a pop up and 3D face recognition, THIS is something new.
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AnonD-909757, 25 Jul 2021The Axon 30 have nothing to do with it, it uses the stupid ... moreA80 was more than 600USD in my country at the time of launch. Price to performance ration is not so good on Samsung in my country for any device. They provide crap specs for the price.
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AnonD-909757, 25 Jul 2021The Axon 30 have nothing to do with it, it uses the stupid ... moreDisplay issues wont be there. I have used almost all the phones from ZTE. ZTE Axon 7/10 Pro/20/30 Ultra. All are excellent products except that a little underdisplay problem on first generation. I am sure Visionx might have fixed the issue almost 80-90%. I would have loved punch hole at the center as there is no ZTE phone with snapdragon 870. If this is priced at 500USD globally for 8+128 and 600USD for 12+256,it will be killer deal. Even if it fails in display department, I will be more than happy for ZTE. Atleast they tried something new.
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Plus, 25 Jul 2021Ironically the best looking Samsung smartphone because ther... moreYes
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captain fokou, 24 Jul 2021We need more phones like thisFor someone like me who always value IP certification on a smartphone, I can forgive the lack of it for this kind of phone. Both Samsung and ASUS made an interesting take of flip camera mechanisms and I like them a lot.
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The Android Freak, 25 Jul 2021We won't get it. You have to import ZTE Axon 30 from C... moreThe Axon 30 have nothing to do with it, it uses the stupid gimmick underdisplay camera that successfully combine :
1) High price (it doesn't show up yet, but lets them come, when the real price of this thing will be reveal everyone will cry).
2) Poor quality of selfie quality.
3) Display issues, either lower general resolution, or a discrepancy between the area having it and the rest of the display.
4) Privacy nightmare habits by making people forget about the camera.
The A80 on the other hand have a decent price, the selfie quality are better than many other phones and as the Asus Flip Up showcased it can, by using the main cameras, allow for the best selfie quality possible, don't do anything to the display, and is great for privacy.
You can't compare those...
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The Android Freak, 25 Jul 2021Centred punch hole are quiet decent looking devices. For you, it may be, but clearly not for everyone.
MANY want to get rid of hole and notch, hence the crazy hype behind underdisplay camera, despite its obvious and big downsides.
And it doesn't provide any privacy protection.
And this is beside the point, I personally don't care if devices with punch holes are or not in the market, but I do care that ALMOST ALL of them have it, to the point where no other options are available.
50% punch holes & 50% teardrop notches, this is basically a really good approximation of the current smartphone market except for entry phones where some have bezels too.
And regardless how "good" it looks, the fact it flooded so much of the market is a big issue.
Only a PERFECT solution could pretend to take up that much of the market, and none exist yet, nor the punch holes, nor the notches, nor the underdisplay camera, nor the bezel, nor the pop up, nor any other solutions I've seen patents or concept of.
And clearly, it has obvious downsides, including wasting precious space on the status bar that already has to fight between notifications and status icons, and to me, it looks hideous and is extremely invasive, unpleasant and distracting.
I'd rather have no front facing camera at all and have to deal with wonky solutions like using a mirror for the really rare times I have to use one while also seeing myself in the screen than having a punch hole or a teardrop notch.
Before the punch hole, this is how amazing the front sensors were :
https://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/nexus2cee_Sensors.png
And how they started to go :
https://www.numerama.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/pixel-4.jpg
But now because of the punch hole, we only have a single near useless camera, a proximity and ambient light under the display which are costlier and perform worse, and that's it...
Even the huge iPhone notch at least it is here for something else than ONLY a camera :
https://www.etradesupply.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/iphonex-frontsensors.jpg
I'd take a wide notch who offer me all those high-tech features over any punch holes.
Plus, if I want to, I can easily put a privacy cover on a large notch or a bezel, it isn't possible with the punch hole.
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Anonymous, 25 Jul 2021K20 pro at this time still faster than S21 Ultra (exynos ve... moreWith custom rom or stock MIUI rom? Lol
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KimbraMe, 24 Jul 2021True, I almost purchased that phone before waiting out for ... morePoco F3/Mi11X.
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AnonD-909757, 24 Jul 2021Careful, people who get angry when we complain that punch h... moreCentred punch hole are quiet decent looking devices.
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captain fokou, 24 Jul 2021We need more phones like thisMaybe Poco F2 Pro.
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captain fokou, 24 Jul 2021We need more phones like thisWe won't get it. You have to import ZTE Axon 30 from China which will have play store.
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Anonymous, 25 Jul 2021K20 pro at this time still faster than S21 Ultra (exynos ve... moreWell, the Antutu score heavily disagree with that :
K20 Pro, 6GB LPDDR4X, 128GB UFS 2.1 : 535.579
Poco F2 Pro, 6GB LPDDR4X, 128GB UFS 3.1 : 664.502
K30 Pro, 6GB LPDDR4X, 128GB UFS 3.0 : 674.152
S21 Ultra : 12GB LPDDR5, 128GB UFS 3.1 : 755.462 (Exynos)
S21 Ultra : 12GB LPDDR5, 128GB UFS 3.1 : 755.462 (SD)
https://www.kimovil.com/fr/comparer/samsung-galaxy-s21-ultra,xiaomi-poco-f2-pro,xiaomi-redmi-k20-pro-6gb-128gb-cn,xiaomi-redmi-k30-pro
And looking at https://benchmarks.ul.com
The S21 Ultra utterly destroy all K20 Pro, K30 Pro and Poco F2 Pro.
But both Exynos and SD versions are actually quite close, and the Exynos is in fact faster, because not only Samsung did a much better job than with its previous one, but also, the SD aren't that fast this year, and I am pretty sure it is because Samsung voluntarily manufacture them slower than their Exynos, but we still talk about a big improvement compared to the SD875 and previous Exynos!
Regardless, I'd take a Poco F2 Pro/K30 Pro over the K20 pro/Mi 9t Pro who is more expensive because it is much harder to find.
https://www.kimovil.com/fr/comparer/xiaomi-mi-9t-pro-6gb-128gb,xiaomi-poco-f2-pro,xiaomi-redmi-k20-pro-6gb-128gb-cn,xiaomi-redmi-k30-pro
And specs wise, the only reason to go with the K20 Pro/Mi 9t Pro over the more recent K30 Pro/Poco F2 Pro is the 20/9t Telephoto.
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KimbraMe, 24 Jul 2021True, I almost purchased that phone before waiting out for ... moreK20 pro at this time still faster than S21 Ultra (exynos version).
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Ironically the best looking Samsung smartphone because there's no punch hole and flat screen!!
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KimbraMe, 24 Jul 2021True, I almost purchased that phone before waiting out for ... moreWell, the closest to that is the Zenfone's flip up camera, as both use the main camera for both front and back.
Many people don't realize it, but it technically isn't a pop up, but more of a slider (I can it a slider/pop up hybrid), like the Oppo Find X.
While a pop up is only a part that lift from inside the phone, and those two have a whole part of the back raising, it is physically a part of the body who move.
https://youtu.be/bOPsPybiGxw?t=30
The issue with those two (and whole body slider smartphones) is that the part opening is directly leaving a gap where water and dust can indeed come in, much more than through a regular pop up (but less than through a full slider smartphone like the Honor Magic 2, Mi Mix 3 and Lenovo Z5 Pro), though it didn't happen much in reality.
But regardless, the easy fix which would make the phone IP68 compatible, as apparently many are obsessed by that, would have been to simply have the phone having its own body totally closed like a regular smartphone, but with a dent where the pop up/slider hybrid is, like the Zenfone if you were to remove the flip up.
And, through either contact pins and/or passthrough cables, have the pop up be its own independent part attached outside the phone, sitting in that dent, simply using waterproof electric motors (those are surprisingly cheap compared to what we might imagine) that don't need to be inside the sealed off pop-up/slider part nor the body, making the whole thing really simple to maintain (you don't need to open the phone's body to repair or replace) while working as simply as regular pop up do.
The best part is that we could have the back part of the phone's body extending upward, making the main cameras (fixed like the Find X or rotating like the A80) being under a cover like the Find X, which would provide both additional protection for the cameras and privacy.
Same thing for regular slider phones which could, like foldable are, be simply the phone in two distinct and enclosed body that are simply linked together.
All the moving parts based phones have so much potential for improvement, this is mindblowing that they both didn't change how it works since the first one and that they did ditch it without doing so.
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AnonD-909757, 24 Jul 2021Careful, people who get angry when we complain that punch h... moreTrue, I almost purchased that phone before waiting out for the K20 Pro. I am still in search of a mid-range upgrade.
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captain fokou, 24 Jul 2021We need more phones like thisCareful, people who get angry when we complain that punch holes/notches/underdisplay camera flood the market and leave no room for anything else will come here to complain that this rare thing they could just not buy shouldn't exist, and they'll really get angry at you for suggesting having more of something unique that has no "recent" alternative.