Flashback: 12MP shootout 12 years later - Samsung Pixon12 vs. Sony Ericsson Satio

01 August 2021
Revisiting the first two 12MP phones to hit the market to see how they hold up after more than a decade.

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The Samsung looks so good.

    Was a big fan of xenon flash on phones back then... But xenons were small on phones and lit only upto a few metres. Today's low light tech is lot better than an having that bulky xenon unit.

    Though freezing moments is out of question with xenon

      Anonymous, 01 Aug 2021Wow around 5 articles about older phones just in 15 days M... moreNo, it ain't enough, kids nowaday need introductions on how great these phones deserving their respective price tags.

        Let me guess. The next phone would be Nokia N8 o.o

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          hunk0429, 01 Aug 2021Agree. My K810 had xenon too. I wonder why they dont it thi... moreProbably the led take less power to use as a torch

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            • 01 Aug 2021

            Samsung Pixon12... Now on that phone the camera pump is justified. But in all modern day phones camera island with pump not so much

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              Dometalican, 01 Aug 2021I'd actually love to see a modernized Satio (don'... moreThose were the days when phone model names were much more imaginative. Now we just get random letters and a number.

                hunk0429, 01 Aug 2021Agree. My K810 had xenon too. I wonder why they dont it thi... moreThey'd have to make the phones thicker

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                  • 01 Aug 2021

                  Many phones in 2022 will be using WRGB cmos.

                    NomiHK786, 01 Aug 2021Would love to see a flagship mobile phone in today's w... moreXenon flashes are bigger, bulkier and use much more battery than LEDs. Basically long story short, unfortunately, we as consumers have agreed to settle for less. Sad but true.

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                      • 01 Aug 2021

                      I was able to use these 2 legendary phones. It feels like it was yesterday. I prefer the photos of Pixon most of the time but Satio was way way cooler looking. They replaced my Cybershot K850.

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                        • 01 Aug 2021

                        [deleted post]The n8 was a little less sharpened. Other than that not all it was cracked out to be. Good for the time but I was not as impressed when i got it. My 808 on the other hand still winning.

                        Despite the review here based on sharpening that made it seem like the mi 11 did better the results showed that the 808 actually won in a lot of aspects still.

                          NomiHK786, 01 Aug 2021Would love to see a flagship mobile phone in today's w... moreAgree. My K810 had xenon too. I wonder why they dont it this anymore on modern phones.

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                            • 01 Aug 2021

                            [deleted post]I remember how Engadget declared Iphone 4 pics better than N8 because the saturated color lol.

                            And the mass market agreed not knowing the natural colored one from the N8 can be made more vivid using photoshop.

                            But fake colors >>>> natural colors, right?

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                              • 01 Aug 2021

                              Wow around 5 articles about older phones just in 15 days
                              Maybe it's enough GSMArena isn't it?

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                                • 01 Aug 2021

                                All 3 easily beat OnePlus and their wax effect.

                                  Would love to see a flagship mobile phone in today's world with an Xenon flash just to see the difference compared with LED(s) flashes. I used to love having a Xenon flash haha!

                                    AnonD-909757, 01 Aug 2021We could have phones like that nowaday too, imagine with mo... moreI'd actually love to see a modernized Satio (don't know if Ericsson owns the naming rights) with a slide-out triple cam with ToF sensor. Heck, make it a slide-out with small OLED panel that allows epic selfies while the front is all display with front-facing speakers...

                                    Oof...that would be epic...

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                                      AnonD-909757, 01 Aug 2021We could have phones like that nowaday too, imagine with mo... morenext flashback LG GC990 Louvre - first lg phone with 12 mpx camera with Schneider-Kreuznach optics, auto/touch focus, xenon flash and most importantly, it is able to record HD video clips (1280 x 720 pixels) at 30 fps.the phone was introduced in 2009 years

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                                        • 01 Aug 2021

                                        We could have phones like that nowaday too, imagine with modern big sensors and software how much of a beast those would be!
                                        But like many other non-trending techs, haters would complain that, a rare product they could simply NOT buy, isn't good for them...
                                        So rather than those, we are stuck with phone who have useless 2Mp Macro + Depth combo.