Huawei P50 and P50 Pro unveiled: Snapdragon 888 and Kirin 9000 in 4G, upgraded cameras
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- 30 Jul 2021
captain fokou, 29 Jul 2021I might actually leave 5g for the p50 pro I'm still using a 4G phone. Doesn't make any difference to me. Maybe only to those who have already upgraded.
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- 30 Jul 2021
walkman8, 29 Jul 2021It's actually smaller than Mi11U 's sensor (1/1.2... moreWhy 1"? What can do better beside a shallow depth of field? If you want that it's better to use some tele lens like 2x or 3x.
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- 30 Jul 2021
Nick Tegrataker, 30 Jul 2021All thanks to US govt :(How's your Sony 5ii?
I have the 1ii, S21Ultra, Note20Ultra.
All rooted, overclocked cpu, gpu, custom Rom and kernels.
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- 30 Jul 2021
Anonymous, 29 Jul 2021Dead on arrivalTrue, no 5G, epic fail in Europe. No one is gonna buy a 4g phone.
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- 30 Jul 2021
kek, 29 Jul 2021Wow, 1000$ for a 4G only device, with locked bootloaders, a... moreAll thanks to US govt :(
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- 30 Jul 2021
Prices are hard to swallow without GMS. Good luck to Huawei to have good sales.
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- 30 Jul 2021
Bodygard, 29 Jul 2021Was waiting for a periscope lens, 10x optical zoom with OIS... moreA 90mm equivalent camera with 64 megapixels could have been better, if it had a large effective diameter and a Bayer sensor. But the image of the moon looks so bad, so I guess they use a Quad Bayer sensor.
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- 29 Jul 2021
Dead on arrival
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- 29 Jul 2021
Was waiting for a periscope lens, 10x optical zoom with OIS would be sweet....
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- 29 Jul 2021
Anonymous, 29 Jul 2021The S21ULTRA, Sony 1iii, iPhone 12pro, M11U blows this .How?
Probably 5G but 4G is norms for now and when 5G becomes standard Huawei would have overcome their ban.
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- 29 Jul 2021
I have a p40 pro plus and is better from p50 pro im waithing p50 pro plus jn early october💪💪💪
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- 29 Jul 2021
Kev, 29 Jul 2021This is Huawei we are talking about. Not Samsung or someone... moreWhen you launch a new app on Android the Linux kernel creates a new process. A process is a unit of execution with its own virtual address space (which is mapped to physical memory). The Linux kernel manages the resources needed by the process including time running on the CPU, input and output of data (over the network or via the filesystem), and physical memory (RAM).
When there is an abundance of resources the kernel’s job is easy. If the process needs more CPU time and the CPU is idle, the kernel can easily grant the process more execution time. If there is little I/O, giving the process more I/O isn’t a problem. If the process needs more RAM and RAM is available, the kernel just needs to track what process is using which bits of memory.
However, when resources are scarce things become complicated. With CPU time and I/O, the biggest casualty of overloading is performance. If the CPU is busy, the work at hand will still get done, but it won’t be as quick. RAM is different. When you have no more, waiting longer probably won’t result in any more RAM being freed. This is where the kernel needs to be proactive to get back some RAM.
Linux and Android handle this in two ways. First, there is the idea of swapping using zRAM. Android can allocate a chunk of physical memory for swapping. Swapping is an idea Linux uses on PCs and servers. When there isn’t enough memory, the oldest and least used pages of memory are written out to the disk and the memory they occupied becomes available for other processes. If that swapped-out memory is needed later, the saved data is read back from the disk and put back into memory (swapped-in), where it can be used.
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- 29 Jul 2021
Kev, 29 Jul 2021This is Huawei we are talking about. Not Samsung or someone... more
Android is true Linux multitasking platform, while iOS, is fake Darwin non Linux OS.
The more Ram the more apps run freelance.
Common sense use it
A bit of a historical component. A language like C (which is the base for ObjectiveC that most iOS are still written in.) explicitly allocate and de-allocate memory. i want to remember a string "FOO" I call saying I want a string of 3 characters, and when I'm done I say I don't need this anymore and it becomes free memory.
Java uses a garbage collector approach. So I create the same string. However when I'm done I just have nothing pointing to it any more. The Java Virtual Machine (JVM) periodically comes by and looks for things in memory that no longer have things referencing it. Then it will take that memory and mark it as empty to the OS again and can be re-used.
The first approach is very memory efficient. Everything is left to (a competent) developer to deal with and try and minimize the amount of memory used. The second method makes it easier to program, and allows for slightly lazier coding. However on low-memory devices, it's far less efficient because the cleaner needs to come by more often to make memory available to new programs.
So the answer is because iOS traditionally doesn't need higher memory because they have a program that forces memory efficacy. Garbage collection can be better for devices with plenty of memory reliable because it's less of a concern.
This is an oversimplification. This understanding is pre-swfit on iOS so it might be more of a historical reasoning than anything.
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- 29 Jul 2021
Ivo., 29 Jul 2021No 10x zoom - dead on arrival! Samsung wins again!Learn to read
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- 29 Jul 2021
The S21ULTRA, Sony 1iii, iPhone 12pro, M11U blows this .
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- 29 Jul 2021
[deleted post]Agreed, there are already rumors that Huawei is building its own factories and investing heavily in EUV technology.
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- 29 Jul 2021
Anonymous, 29 Jul 2021Wrong, you have no options but to accept it.
8gb Ram. Non... moreThis is Huawei we are talking about. Not Samsung or someone else, who packs too much RAM and supplants it with a massive battery. Huawei balances small batteries with small consumption. As such, they NEVER put in much RAM, instead balancing it with a small battery. And it seems that Huawei was deeply inspired by Apple in optimizing with little RAM.
But you are absolutely incorrect. Let's remind ourselves of the Note 20 Ultra. Samsung said we didn't even need 16GBs of RAM. So.......
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- 29 Jul 2021
Anonymous, 29 Jul 2021Wrong, you have no options but to accept it.
8gb Ram. Non... moreWrong, enjoy paying more for a negligible difference.
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- 29 Jul 2021
The cameras are interesting. Huawei's gone for the cheaper route, and subsidized the lacking hardware with software.
The first one is the thing that apparently boosted the upscaling and detail preservation of periscopes. I have high hopes, as Huawei's essentially used the S20 Ultra's recipe for the Pro's zoom, and the old P40 Pro's periscope for their P50. They seem confident in them as well, as the zoom abilities for their phones is ridiculously high at 100x for the Pro and 80x for the non-Pro.
And if Huawei delivers on their promise....they could potentially have made the S21 Ultra's periscope camera redundant, delivering similar cropping performance while being more flexible due to being a 90mm lens instead of a 240mm one.
As for the main camera and monochrome combo, we should just cross our fingers and hope that Huawei can pull a rabbit out of their software hat. The IMX700 has plenty of potential, and if they can replicate what Google did with the 4a, then all can be forgiven, as that had night sight with a budget sensor. Imagine what Huawei can do with a camera sensor that they're VERY familar with (This will be the 3rd flagship series to use the same camera.)
Reflecting on the selfie camera and ultrawide camera, both are very good. Finally, the ultrawide is a proper focal length (straight from 18mm to 13mm) which is a welcome upgrade. The only possible hitch is that it could potentially be not as good as the 40MP Quad Bayer ultrawides from the Mate 30 Pro and P40 Pro at night.
As for the rest of the phone, nothing is out of the ordinary apart from lack of 5G. But.....that was expected. In fact, I call that the make-or-break of this phone. (You wouldn't be considering this phone if you didn't understand the implications of no Google) You are giving up 5G to get this phone. Are you willing to give it up? I feel that it's going to be a tough decision, as this phone is actually priced quite competitively, at 800 euros. However, that could change quickly if there is an official price increase here in Europe or elsewhere.
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- 29 Jul 2021
I heard that when you receive a call the back of the phone changes colour and maybe the 1300 dollar p50 pro will have the 1 inch sensor and destroy everything in the camera department