Flashback video: the Nokia N97 tried to kill the iPhone, sped up Nokia's demise instead

28 August 2021
Nokia being as huge as it was meant that it was a slow death - but all the signs were there that Nokia's time at the top is over.

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Hemedans, 29 Aug 2021give numbers or source? lot of estimation shows n9 sold Mil... moreDon't bother asking for sources, he made the claim that Nokia pushed MeeGo with only 1 device before moving to WP.

Also lol at no inspiration from MeeGo when it had the gesture based UI that android and iphone are using today

    Hemedans, 29 Aug 2021Meego project involved lot of companies, including players ... moreNokia and Intel at the time alone were more than enough for it to be heavily involved. It was a bigger project than what that other guy claimed.

      Hardware keyboard would be welcome on any android or iphone!

        blue.sun, 29 Aug 2021Millions? Oh, please, stop your lies. They sold a few thous... moresource to prove your claims?

          DMX, 29 Aug 2021He did not sell millions, stop misinforming, if he managed ... moregive numbers or source? lot of estimation shows n9 sold Millions never saw even single source which shows it sold thousands of devices, both gatner and canalys had huge number of other os in their report 2012.
          -gartner had 1.2m in Q1 2012
          - gartner had 860k in Q2 2012
          -canalys had 1.2m in Q1 2012

          if you have data to prove your claim link it here

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            • 8xr
            • 29 Aug 2021

            And to remember this iconic and great Series of. the brand, nothing like buying a Series N in AliExpress to use it as fm radio and listen to music from your old SD

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              • 8xr
              • 29 Aug 2021

              Hemedans, 29 Aug 2021seems like you dont even know what you talking about, care ... moreHe did not sell millions, stop misinforming, if he managed to sell a few thousand, I remembered when I saw him in a store booth and people looking at other Android phones because Android was already very involved in the market

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                • 29 Aug 2021

                blue.sun, 29 Aug 2021Millions? Oh, please, stop your lies. They sold a few thous... moreWell sorry mate but yes he's right the N9 indeed sold millions, it can be found on the interwebs. The phone was not advertised, there was no promotion from Microsoft unlike the Lumia series of Nokia phones. After all, it sold millions, but somewhere around 2-4 million.

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                  • 29 Aug 2021

                  Hemedans, 29 Aug 2021seems like you dont even know what you talking about, care ... moreMillions? Oh, please, stop your lies. They sold a few thousand of them, no millions.
                  And no, android is NOT inspired by Meego.

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                    • HkZ
                    • 29 Aug 2021

                    Its the other way around. Elop had to kill Symbian and Meego for iphone and spyware Android to succeed.
                    No internet hype machine can chnage this truth . Too many witnesses. The biggest loss here was and is consumer privacy.

                      blue.sun, 29 Aug 2021Nobody. Even though Nokia tried to push it, after N9 failed... moreseems like you dont even know what you talking about, care to provide proof that Nokia pushed N9 and it failed?

                      N9 and Meego was discontinued by Elop even before it was released. they just released it as discontinued devices and they didn't even advertised it, but yet it managed to sell millions of devices.

                        blue.sun, 29 Aug 2021If companies see potential in Sailfish, why there is no pho... moresailfish just anounced they were profitable last year, lot of countries and companies use it including Russian government.

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                          Hemedans, 29 Aug 2021Meego project involved lot of companies, including players ... moreNobody. Even though Nokia tried to push it, after N9 failed to succeed (and it failed), no one ever tried to restart it. The system is ancient, from times, when non-touch Symbian was the symbol of operating system. But modern age is somewhere else and no one is ever interested in antiques.

                            blue.sun, 29 Aug 2021No, we couldn't, and you know that very well. Meego wa... moreMeego was way ahead of others Not just geek system, proof is untill Today 2021 lot of Android phones and iphones imitate Meego from 2011, from double tap to awake, glance screen (always on display), true multitasking, dark ui, aggregating all user things and notification in one place, gesture based ui, NFC, notification on lock-screen etc. check this video of os from 2011
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x057oh0x5p8

                            without single advertisement budget from Elop, N9 managed to outsold all wp devices, Nokia didn't reveal officials figures but it was estimated 5 million units were sold. until today you can easily get N9 as proof of how many device it sold.

                            and iphone was Never a Nokia Biggest competitor or much threat, i dont know why people keep repeating this lie.
                            -from 2007 to 2010 Apple wasnt even close to reach Nokia smartphone sales, iphone existence didnt hurt Nokia sales
                            -majority of Iphone sales came from North america, Nokia didnt have much presence in North america, even at their peak Nokia had like 12% marketshare there.
                            -nokia sold budget devices a lot, they had devices cost as low as $16, no way someone who can only afford $16 device to leave Nokia and buy Iphone. etc
                            so its Not true that existence of iphone would make Meego fail.

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                              Carol, 29 Aug 2021Again, talking not to keep quiet, and saying nothing that m... moreIf companies see potential in Sailfish, why there is no phone using it? :-D :-D Please, stop embarassing yourself, if you really don't know a thing about it.

                                Dudenoway, 29 Aug 2021Tbh. Nokia was ded cuz apple and android had more tricks in... morethis is wrong, untill Elop release burning memo 2010, symbian Had more market share than Android and ios. Android managed to surpass Symbian because there was No device to buy from syymbian, and Elop pissed off all developers and important people who work on project.

                                this graph shows Nokia smartphone sales after Ellop burning memo
                                https://dominiescommunicate.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/elop_effect_volume.jpg

                                  Anonymous, 29 Aug 2021Windows Phone was quite pleasant to use. The user interface... moreMicrosoft killed windows phone, when wp8.1 was released they had more than 50 million active user and sales surpass 10 million units per quarter. then they discontinue Nokia legacy by shutting down apps and released under-powered devices with cortex a5,

                                    SuuperBaka, 29 Aug 2021"This is just ignorant. At the time the MeeGo project ... moreMeego project involved lot of companies, including players like Intel, Nokia, Acer, Asus, Amd,Tencent, gameloft, Ea mobile etc, i checked wikipedia 27 big companies were involved, if someone claim "nobody was Interested with Meego" they know nothing about this project.

                                      dust, 29 Aug 2021what is meego?MeeGo is Linux-based OS used by Nokia in its N9 before Elop's "planned" downfall of Nokia
                                      was using Nokia N9, very smooth OS with swiping gestures before Android and iOS implement them

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                                        • 29 Aug 2021

                                        LOL what a headline! They were not trying to do anything specialy not to kill the the iPhone which was nothing in those times cause at those times Nokia was above everyone so high no one could touch them.

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