The EU might require OEMs to provide 7 years of updates and spare parts for its phones

07 September 2021
The bill is proposed as a way to reduce e-waste.

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  • 04 Aug 2023

Coming back to this article in 2023, it took me a while to realize that this future policy is actually feasible. While we already see several Android OEM giving four years of OS update, security patches level are always based on whatever OS version shipped out of the box on the first day. To make this policy feasible, the final three years of security patches has to be based on the final OS version update. Let's take a phone originally launched with Android 13 out of the box as an example. To comply to this policy, the final three years of security patches has to be based on Android 17. If the brand keeps on sticking with Android 13-based security patches, this policy won't work at all.

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    • Sin
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    • 05 Nov 2022

    This is a good idea
    Spare parts definitely should have too be made by manufacturers for there smartphones for many years

    Android security patches & updates should be good requirement

    Android OS versions is more tricky one in theory new android versions are better in practice it's often a disaster either way

    Let me explain
    All there's problems will be worse on budget smartphones then flagships but will exist on both

    It's a double edge sword getting a new android versions

    First problem
    Updates take up a lot of storage so unless a smartphone has a huge base storage amount it's going too run into problems

    The second drawback is higher system requirements for new Android version that are made for better hardware

    Third problem is possiblity is app compatibility getting broken with legacy apps that used too work on the smartphone getting broken by a update
    There are some android apps that will only run on a handful of Android versions or hardware

    So if OS versions support is a requirement

    Add storage roughly 32gb minimum ? requirements
    Add hardware requirements anything with 4g network signel support that's a 64bit processor
    Add os rollback easy reset opinion requirements

    We do also need app developers too make future software less heavy with legacy support for older smartphones that can't have either there hardware or software updated

    Plus keep the 3g network towers again for the sake of all the 3g only smartphones in the market

      Anonymous, 08 Sep 2021The amount of people sticking to a phone for 7 years is muc... moredoesn't mean it can't change.

      I guess you're just hellbent that phone shouldn't be supported longer. oh well, you do you.

        NotAFanboy, 07 Sep 2021Have you read the third passage thoroughly?You tell me what did i miss

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          • Anand
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          • 09 Sep 2021

          It should be in India too.

            It's laughable here in the uk with networks expecting people to buy phones on 36 month contracts you'd be lucky if it hasn't reached EOL before it's paid for

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              • AnonD-1014095
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              • 08 Sep 2021

              Lots off people don't care or give damm about updates, because majority text, call, browse.

              Nothing wrong with the phone so why update?

              Smart users will purchase VPN, AntiVirus for extra protection, they don't, never rely on free cheap updates from manufacturers.
              Whatever the upcoming years they add features, every features can be bought from playstore, appStore, and its way much better and premium than free stuff you get.

              Updates are for poor people, user's.

                That would be a nice dream.

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                  • Anonymous
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                  • 08 Sep 2021

                  Fulljack, 08 Sep 2021just because people use one phone for 2 to 3 years before c... moreThe amount of people sticking to a phone for 7 years is much lower than the amount of people sticking to a single cat for 7 years

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                    • Anonymous
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                    • 08 Sep 2021

                    EU bureaucrats justifying their existence.

                    The market seems to have worked pretty well so far, with Apple leading in profitability by a mile, because it "just works" and it offers better and longer support for its products. Even cheap Chinese manufacturers are starting to offer better support because they have figured out that just "cheap" is not enough as consumers become more sophisticated. In this case, the market works well, but the ever-growing EU paper-pushers have to stick their nose in it, just because.

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                      • Anonymous
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                      • 08 Sep 2021

                      This is stupid beyond stupidity for many reasons.
                      Many people don't use their phone that long, even the conscious consumers who keep their devices for longer.
                      What good is it that there's spare parts when repairing phones becomes more difficult with each year due to design and engineering?
                      If OEMs now have to provide spare parts aka technological waste for completely outdated devices while also producing novel devices, this won't reduce waste whatsoever.
                      The EU is just so utterly braindead and needs to end.

                        Anonymous, 07 Sep 2021People are not interested in using phones beyond 2-3 years.... morejust because people use one phone for 2 to 3 years before changing to other phone, doesn't mean when phone are getting 7 years of support, people will hardly use that to hold their phones longer.

                        correlation doesn't mean causation.

                          I've used my Samsung Galaxy S7 for 4 years. I've bought it 1 year after release, so the total time would be around 5 years since release for software updates. I still use it as a backup phone (because it works) so I'd love to see this 7 year period become a requirement for all manufacturers.

                            Anonymous, 08 Sep 2021I'm sure 10 years ago there weren't Windows 10. S... moreLol, why would I lie about this? Usually the people on here like to say they buy a new phone every 2 months and drive a Ferrari to the grocery store, not that they still use a 10 year old laptop, lol. I actually have several fairly new laptops/Macs as well, but this particular one stays in the bathroom and is used for playing music when I'm showering or for web browsing when I'm on the toilet. It's a 15" samsung i7 with 16gb of ram. It only takes 30 minutes to reset the Windows every 3 years, which makes a huge difference. I do it while on the toilet, so no skin off my back.

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                              • Anonymous
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                              • 08 Sep 2021

                              Anonymous, 08 Sep 2021We are talking about 10-year-old machines, if you have not ... moreDepends some people can install all the trash in the world where malware and viruses might end up slowing down an otherwise faster newer machine

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                                • Carol
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                                • 08 Sep 2021

                                Anonymous, 08 Sep 2021We are talking about 10-year-old machines, if you have not ... moreSo, 2014 happened ten years ago? Just asking as apparently it is not just ignorance but also lack of basic mathematics. As for windows 10, well it was released in 2015, and no computer needs to be brought back to it"s original OS to be able to reset or install windows on it. Your knowlege about computers = 0, yet you mock others? A 2014 maschie will fly with an SSD and windows 10 if there are no enterprise works involved. If he uses an HDD, well he most probably does not load the hack out of his computer and knows how to stear away from ads and viruses, it is actually not that hard if one knows some computer basics...

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                                  • Carol
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                                  • 08 Sep 2021

                                  Anonymous, 08 Sep 2021OS slowing down is due to incompetent software companies li... moreFirst things first, Microsoft, second, that company is one of the first to releasa an OS. Third, what were your achivements, besides: nothing to call microsoft incompetent? Incompetent are the users whom microsoft gave to much power in windows and had no idea what to do with it. Oh, you tought MAC is better? It really puzzles me how ignorance is a thing this days.

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                                    • Anonymous
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                                    • 08 Sep 2021

                                    Anonymous, 08 Sep 2021I'm sure 10 years ago there weren't Windows 10. S... moreI don't know exactly what this conversation is about but let me tell you. Laptops work way too longer.
                                    I have a laptop with original windows 7 from the start and it still works without any issues. It's now 11 years old. Only thing degraded is battery. Battery only gives 1 hour actual charge right now so have to plug it as soon as it's started if using for long hours. Boot time is only less than a minute.

                                    Also have another laptop with original windows 10 and it boots up in 12 seconds because of SSD. But of course it's a newer one bought last year and cannot be compared but I expect to use that also till next 10 years.

                                    So yes windows laptops work way too longer than many people think. At least 10 years is something normal if you properly maintain it.

                                    BTW I use most of the phones for an average of 4 years which I think is more than normal average of 2 years other people use.

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                                      • Paulw
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                                      • 08 Sep 2021

                                      Just wait for the price of phones to go up about 30 % to cove this BS..

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                                        • Anonymous
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                                        • 08 Sep 2021

                                        Anonymous, 08 Sep 2021Aren't HDDs outdated? We are talking about 10-year-old machines, if you have not following the thread. Someone claims his 10-year-old laptop runs Windows 10 as smoothly as the first day he got it with Windows 7.