Weekly poll results: zoom cameras need to start at 3x at least, variable focal length is preferred

12 September 2021
Maybe in the future the best phones will have fewer camera modules, not more.

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kupfernigk, 12 Sep 2021Apple has just warned users that vibration from motorcycles... moreget a 100$ phone if you want gps on your bike, problem solved

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    I need 10x optical (real optical) like in mate40pro+

      AnonD-994853, 13 Sep 2021Sorry, but mirrorless camera aren't reliable "Sorry, but mirrorless camera aren't reliable"

      Lmao. If you're insinuating that phone cameras are more reliable than mirrorless, then that's a nice joke.


      When you think Mi 11 Ultra > Sony A1

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        Anonymous, 12 Sep 2021He/she is right. A P40 Pro Plus or S21 Ultra don't hav... moreWell at least it allows far away zooms

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          blue.sun, 12 Sep 2021I have a solution for you. It's called mirrorless came... moreSorry, but mirrorless camera aren't reliable

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            Anonymous, 12 Sep 2021What do you plan to do with all this ISO? Even medium for... moreLol Mi 11 Ultra has sony IMX 586 at 1/2 inch sensor size and 1/1.12 inch sensor for main camera, what's impossible?

              OhNom, 13 Sep 2021I mean IMX and EXMOR, I don't think anyone considers t... more"I mean IMX and EXMOR, I don't think anyone considers their QB sensors their flagship sensors, and yes, I agree, they sell to everyone, and their sensors are probably the best, there is no point to argue here"

              Glad we can agree that their sensors are the best out there. Some actually do consider the QB to be their best sensors, but they're free to think so.

              "But the other person bragged that others need to buy from Sony while they do their thing themselves, when they can't even implement it as well as everyone else using their same sensors, and I don't think there is anyone to defend their poor implementation of your sensors software"

              That was pretty dumb on them to brag like that since all companies use different parts for their phones. Sony uses someone else for their display, so their point makes no sense.

                SuuperBaka, 12 Sep 2021"What's the use of Sony using its own products wh... moreI mean IMX and EXMOR, I don't think anyone considers their QB sensors their flagship sensors, and yes, I agree, they sell to everyone, and their sensors are probably the best, there is no point to argue here

                But the other person bragged that others need to buy from Sony while they do their thing themselves, when they can't even implement it as well as everyone else using their same sensors, and I don't think there is anyone to defend their poor implementation of your sensors software

                  OhNom, 12 Sep 2021"This is what happens when the device is 100% third-pa... more"What's the use of Sony using its own products when it can't implement them correctly, while "3rd party brands" can"

                  When has Sony used QB sensors on their phones?

                  "And, they don't even use their flagship products on themselves, so what's the point of making their stuff?"

                  Because every other company except Samsung and maybe Xiaomi buy their stuff

                    tintumon88, 12 Sep 2021You actually need 2 camera with good resolution. Give a UW ... more"If it's a 9-in-1 pixel grouping, make it 4-in-1 for zoom ..."

                    ... that is not possible, to convert it to 4-1 it should be binning 16-1

                      Anonymous, 12 Sep 2021Redmi note or realme user I suppose. (Always the ones who h... more"This is what happens when the device is 100% third-party technology.
                      At least xperia is full of its own technology. "
                      What's the use of Sony using its own products when it can't implement them correctly, while "3rd party brands" can

                      And, they don't even use their flagship products on themselves, so what's the point of making their stuff?

                        TheLastOracle, 12 Sep 2021If the Sony has dual focal lengths within a single periscop... moreIf you want other companies to make those extended ranges, wouldn't that make the phone thicker? That's probably the reason why

                          If the Sony has dual focal lengths within a single periscope module, its curious why other smartphone companies don't have double or triple zoom ranges. That could ensure much smoother zoom, and the need for way lesser camera modules.

                            blue.sun, 12 Sep 2021You really know a sh*t about technology, do you?It looks like I don't and I have a lot to learn.

                              Apple has just warned users that vibration from motorcycles can damage their phone cameras.
                              This is where I have grave doubts about actual zoom lenses on phones at the moment. Good zoom lenses on cameras are very bulky with substantial mechanisms. Trying to fit that into a phone case could result in very fragile cameras.

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                                captain fokou, 12 Sep 2021Check your numbers again You really know a sh*t about technology, do you?

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                                  captain fokou, 12 Sep 2021What are you talking about?. Huawei made a phone with 8mp 1... moreHuawei made a fixed lens camera, that has focal lenght 10 times of the basic camera. But that's not zoom. That's two fixed lens cameras in one body. And with very different sensors and mainly very different output (and a very bad one).
                                  Except Samsung's K zoom and S4 zoom no one ever made a 10x zoom camera.

                                    Guys. I have the dumbest but best camera setup. If u literally make a super small battery and put as small as components as possible and then u put a an main uw 1.5x 2x 2.5x 3x etc etc up till 10x. With this setup if u put a 40mp imx 766 or imx 682 or even hm2 on all of them then it would be a super good setup. Anyway if they make it so that every one of the sensors can make high quality image between the 0.5x difference so it doesn't make much difference eit would be sick

                                      Anonymous, 12 Sep 2021He/she is right. A P40 Pro Plus or S21 Ultra don't hav... moreLook. Many people aren't an expert at camera hardware software blah blah. And thta swhy for wya simpler terms we use simple 10x. And yes its not 10x but the quality would be dogsh*t anyway so there is no point.

                                        Anonymous, 12 Sep 2021He/she is right. A P40 Pro Plus or S21 Ultra don't hav... moreCheck your numbers again