Apple's M1 Pro and M1 Max SoCs are official with much improved performance over the M1

18 October 2021
CPUs are 70% better, GPUs even more so.

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DrakeX, 19 Oct 2021Apple can boast how powerful their graphics performance is ... moreumm, content creation and editing?

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    Nick Tegrataker, 19 Oct 2021In case you missed it, the 4-core and the 8-core processors... moreThese people don't listen to reason, Nick. They all tout their gaming laptops over Macs, while not realising that their beloved games are mostly created using macOS machines. :(

      Apple seems to put a lot of variants for the new ARM CPU. For M1 Pro, there's an 8-core CPU/14-core GPU, a 10-core CPU/14-core GPU, and a 10-core CPU/16-core GPU. As for the M1 Max, there's a 10-core CPU/24-core GPU and a 10-core CPU/32-core GPU. At this point, I wonder what kind of difference in terms of performance all of those CPUs will exhibit.

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        Anonymous, 19 Oct 2021Long ago, Mac is for work. Windows is for playing. But ... morePeople aren't going to be going through all that virtualization garbage just to get windows working. Also the virtualization fails 50% of the time due to arm architecture

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          • 19 Oct 2021

          Long ago, Mac is for work. Windows is for playing.

          But now, these Macs are so powerful and efficient. They can work, and at spare time, just load up Windows 10 VM as virtual machines, then run any games they want. (With M1, you can play most casual games and AAA games at low frames, now with these pro chips i think even AAA games at decent frames will be possible)

          Sure it goes thru virtualisation then emulator. MacOS -> Parallels -> Windows Arm -> emulate x86. But the raw power will overcome all these.

          There is totally no comparison in the laptop market.

          The next hurdle would be the desktop machines.. To overcome PC with huge dedicated graphics.. something hardcore gamers would still require.

            Anonymous, 19 Oct 2021You do realize GPU's are used for image manipulation a... moreHonestly, I didn't realise that. As far as I know, those tasks usually put burden on the CPU. GPU manufacturers always market their GPUs for gamers. Apple definitely has the calibre to push the gaming industry, they even promoted Apple Arcade. Of course, MacOS has always been targeted for professionals.

              Nick Tegrataker, 19 Oct 2021Photo editing? Video rendering? 3D CAD? Illustration? There... moreFair point but can you give me some examples of applications that do require GPU horsepower and would not work well with weak GPUs? It'd be interesting for me to see if a GPU non-gaming benchmark does exists because I haven't seen one. Generally, those tasks are more oriented towards CPU or RAM rather than being GPU dependent.

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                • 19 Oct 2021

                can play the last battlefield now?

                  Some great looking numbers! Now my question is: Architecture-wise, is M1X still based on older A14 (=M1) or A15?

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                    • 19 Oct 2021

                    DrakeX, 19 Oct 2021Apple can boast how powerful their graphics performance is ... moreYou do realize GPU's are used for image manipulation acceleration, video rendering (both decoding and encoding), rendering of 3D objects and scenes in 3D modeling apps and well, they can run games too. There are games coded specifically for MacOS and there are some that run just fine through compatibility layer. But ultimately, it's not a gaming platform. Though with enough sales and interest, they may become. There is enough grunt and it's rather easy to specify requirements unlike with PC's with billion hardware configurations.

                      DrakeX, 19 Oct 2021Apple can boast how powerful their graphics performance is ... morePhoto editing? Video rendering? 3D CAD? Illustration? There are plenty of MacOS apps made for creative professionals that can take advantage of higher graphics performance.

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                        Anonymous, 19 Oct 2021It was just a matter of time before Apple pulls an Intel an... moreI didn't realise both the M1 Pro and the M1 Max have 2 variants with differing numbers of GPU cores. So that should be 6 tiers of processors in total.

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                          i0S.- Never.- Again, 19 Oct 2021enjoying what benefits exactly??? When Mac OS ecosystem ca... moreWindows are begging for good optimization even AMD-based CPUs crashed on Windows 11. Dell and HP laptops getting bricked after updating to Windows 11.

                          Windows will be regarded as a joke of history. Mac OS paves the way in terms of optimization.

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                            It was just a matter of time before Apple pulls an Intel and introduces market segmentation for their processors. So now we have the M1 with less GPU cores, M1 with full GPU cores, M1 Pro and M1 Max for 4 tiers of products. I'm very interested to see how the new processors will perform.

                              Anonymous, 19 Oct 2021macs aren’t targeted towards gamers nor are they made for g... moreI didn't say it was made for gamers.

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                                DrakeX, 19 Oct 2021Apple can boast how powerful their graphics performance is ... moremacs aren’t targeted towards gamers nor are they made for gaming 🙃

                                  Apple can boast how powerful their graphics performance is but if I can't play games on it, what's the point?

                                    Anonymous, 18 Oct 2021💻 from other brands like Dell, Asus and HP widely used for ... moreNot really.

                                      Anonymous, 19 Oct 2021What are these 4 core and 8 core PC they are comparing with... moreIn case you missed it, the 4-core and the 8-core processors are i7-1185G7 and i7-11800H, respectively. The specific devices that were used for the test were clearly noted on the bottom right corner of their presentation slides.

                                      "And then the graphics of a gaming pro that consume 100W more power is probably also a laptop that cost half the price of the Pro model"
                                      Interesting, any suggestion for a $1500 thin-and-light laptop that comes with RTX3080? The rest of the hardware should be at least just as good as MBP, of course.

                                        Anonymous, 19 Oct 2021What are these 4 core and 8 core PC they are comparing with... morelook at the graphs present right in front of you...the laptops are mentioned right down to model.

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