Xiaomi reveals the Redmi Note 11 Pro design, confirms the Dimensity 920 chipset

26 October 2021
This 6 nm chip scored over 500,000 points in AnTuTu. In one of the promo images the phone is held by Uniq member Wang Yibo.

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IpsDisplay, 30 Oct 2021"That's NOT always the case. The problem is that ... moreMy mistake to even attempt to argue with such a hardcore fanboy (or a troll) with brainless arguments. Not only you're incredibly uninformed but also try to cherry-pick and spin things. But you amuse me, for now.

"Your admitting that to an inherent weakness of OLED that motivates manufacturers not to want to do it if it is then an ISSUE it is a disadvantage and is there for a loss in comparison to LCD my statement is true"
- No, it's refuting the importance of the point you're trying to make. OLEDs can get dimmer, but don't need to. You present it like they are eye-scorching. So what if LCDs are somewhat dimmer on average. Also, not every OLED is too bright at minimum brightness, and not every LCD is dim either. Go ahead and cherry-pick an example... On the other hand, the maximum brightness is higher on quality OLEDs on MOBILE PHONES.

"But let me tell the "so what" if a customer buys a 150$ OLED smartphone and then is being told to spen 60-80 dollars to repair a cracked screen.. that's basically half the price of the phone , I see customer worry about resale value I'm sure the cost to repair is relevant to a customer's experience..."

5k vs 30k comparison is unfair? Okay, fine, I've blown it out of proportion. OLEDs are more expensive than LCDs around 3 times on average. How about then saying that a 10k Opel is better than a 20k Audi since Opel is cheaper to maintain? Do you need more details to finally understand that the core point is what matters, not the accuracy of the analogy? One technology being cheaper is not what makes it better. Yes the costs to replace the OLED screen may be very expensive, costing a big portion of the cost of the phone itself, but that's because the screen IS the most expensive component on a phone.

"You discredit yourself immediately when you even imply that LCD having superior longevity .. backlight bleed, clouding, IPS glow are all inherent flaws of LCD this are not derived from wear and tear of the display.. burn in definitely does though"
- No I don't discredit myself. I never claimed longevity is better on the OLED, but nice deflection attempt. We're both stating disadvantages of each panel. I didn't even go all-in. Also, NEWS FLASH: LCDs are prone to burn-in too, though much less common. You've picked up a grudge from the old Galaxy S6 days where there were a vast amount of burn-in cases, and forgot to update your arguments. Technology got better, such cases are much rarer. Don't use your phone like an idiot and it will be fine. Even still, the majority of the burn-in cases are reported by people who don't understand the difference between burn-in and image retention.

"The context is clearly phone and diamond pentile is ubiquitous in the industry as they are are almost all made by Samsung"
- First - the majority may come from Samsung, but not all. Second - not every type made by them is diamond pentile. Third - diamond pentile does not suffer from lower sharpness, but the specifications for it are misleading (QHD is not actually QHD). That dishonesty is on the manufacturers, not the problem of the OLEDs in itself. And since you now understand how it works, maybe you won't talk such nonsense again.

"We are talk about the actual technology, OLED shows a different image at different brightness levels PLUS you have to account for ever single individual pixel

For these reasons OLED will never match LCD in high refresh rate the hightest and best refresh rates go to OLED"

You made absolutely no sense here, and it makes it seem like you never held a phone with a quality screen in your hands, be it OLED or LCD. High-end OLED destroys a high-end LCD. Though I got to give you a break here, there are no truly high-end LCDs on phones.

    adsubzero, 30 Oct 2021"It loses to brightness efficiency (max brightness, wh... more"That's NOT always the case. The problem is that OLEDs can have an uneven lighting at very low brightness levels, therefore manufacturers opt to not set the minimum brightness to such levels. As much as this is an issue on its own, your statement is untrue"

    -your admitting that to an inherent weakness of OLED that motivates manufacturers not to want to do it if it is then an ISSUE it is a disadvantage and is there for a loss in comparison to LCD my statement is true

    "Uhm... Okay? So what? That's like saying a 5k EUR Skoda is better than a 30k BMW because it's cheaper to repair"

    Poor comparison/analogy to cars on your part .. with 25k price difference try again buddy
    But let me tell the "so what" if a customer buys a 150$ OLED smartphone and then is being told to spen 60-80 dollars to repair a cracked screen.. that's basically half the price of the phone , I see customer worry about resale value I'm sure the cost to repair is relevant to a customer's experience..


    "Now that's ridiculous. I've seen cases with burn-in, but I've also owned multiple phones with OLED where the burn-in was either non-existent or could only be seen when viewing at very low brightness on a very specific single colored background. Nobody who ever used their phones properly got burn-in so that's a moot point. On the other hand, wanna talk about IPS glow? Clouding? Backlight bleed? Distortion and blurring? Yeah..."

    You discredit yourself immediately when you even imply that LCD having superior longevity .. backlight bleed, clouding, IPS glow are all inherent flaws of LCD this are not derived from wear and tear of the display.. burn in definitely does though

    Nice anecdotal samples though that's not gonna help you though LCD longevity is well agreed upon in the industry it's not even a debate at this point nice try tho

    "You're naming a very specific case, and otherwise it's not true in majority of the cases."


    Remember your very comment

    "Are we talking about TVs or phones"

    The context is clearly phone and diamond pentile is ubiquitous in the industry as they are are almost all made by Samsung

    So it is true in majority of cases as the context being discussed here

    "How long do you plan on mindlessly defending inferior technology"

    I constructed points and gave reason to why I said what I said not sure how that is "mindless" but ok...

     "It loses in high refresh rate? In regard to poor gamma calibration? Huh? Are we talking about poor calibration or the actual technology"

    We are talk about the actual technology, OLED shows a different image at different brightness levels PLUS you have to account for ever single individual pixel

    For these reasons OLED will never match LCD in high refresh rate the hightest and best refresh rates go to OLED

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      • AnonD-1018330
      • g8K
      • 30 Oct 2021

      NonIntelligent, 26 Oct 2021First of all, Apple started by stealing ideas from various ... moreYour name speaks for yourself, i don't give a damn for people's opinion. That's my opinion and i'm standing by what i said, don't try to put your words into my mouth and say something i never said. So disrespectful.

        IpsDisplay, 27 Oct 2021OLED is only superior in CONTRAST(deep blacks is why the co... more"It loses to brightness efficiency (max brightness, whites)"
        "It loses in maximum full screen brightness"
        - No it doesn't. Are we talking about TVs or phones? Hello? IPS TVs are much thicker and have room for a massive backlight component, therefore have a higher power (brightness) potential. Phones are different. Name one phone with an IPS panel that gets brighter than OLEDs?

        "It loses in repair costs"
        - Uhm... Okay? So what? That's like saying a 5k EUR Skoda is better than a 30k BMW because it's cheaper to repair.

        "It loses in minimum brightness"
        - That's NOT always the case. The problem is that OLEDs can have an uneven lighting at very low brightness levels, therefore manufacturers opt to not set the minimum brightness to such levels. As much as this is an issue on its own, your statement is untrue.

        "It loses in longevity (burn in)"
        - Now that's ridiculous. I've seen cases with burn-in, but I've also owned multiple phones with OLED where the burn-in was either non-existent or could only be seen when viewing at very low brightness on a very specific single colored background. Nobody who ever used their phones properly got burn-in so that's a moot point. On the other hand, wanna talk about IPS glow? Clouding? Backlight bleed? Distortion and blurring? Yeah...

        "It loses in sharpness (stupid diamond pentile OLED)"
        - You're naming a very specific case, and otherwise it's not true in majority of the cases.

        "It loses in high refresh rate (poor gamma calibration issues)"
        - It loses in high refresh rate? In regard to poor gamma calibration? Huh? Are we talking about poor calibration or the actual technology?

        How long do you plan on mindlessly defending inferior technology?

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          • Atek
          • as8
          • 28 Oct 2021

          SD means Snapdragon, but yeah I am hoping for an SD780G for globar release, like in Mi 11 Lite 5G. If they use that or even 778g it will be an instant buy.

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            • Sonu
            • XWs
            • 28 Oct 2021

            Bad english, 28 Oct 2021Xiaomi had in their Note line up one of the worst IPS scree... moreThe difference in battery is due to screen technology
            Ips takes more battery than Amoled
            So do you research pal

              OhNom, 27 Oct 2021Actually, 778 has more CPU power than 855, and d920 too, al... more20% is a whole generation gap , that puts it close to sd845 as I said .
              Snapdragon should not fool people by naming it adreno 642L or what not. Even 641 number should be more powerful than 640. It doesn't make any sense.

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                • Bad english
                • LiX
                • 28 Oct 2021

                IpsDisplay, 27 Oct 2021OLED is only superior in CONTRAST(deep blacks is why the co... moreXiaomi had in their Note line up one of the worst IPS screen, even worse, Note 4, 4x Note 5 Ai, Note 6 Pro, Note 7, Note 8, 8t, even Pocophone F1, had in their screens image retention, so Amoled in Note 10 (i had Note 10), is a welcome, way better screen, than for example in Note 8, simply because of the low quality IPS screens in Redmi Notes phones. Also, i had Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 5g, and difference between IPS scren in Note 10 5g and screen in Note 10 are huge. And about Qualcomm, and Mediatek, well in Note 10 5g is Dimensity 700, made on 7nm, on paper is better on battery, than Qualcomm Snapdragon 678 (11nm). In Reality its a differente story, despite the same 5k battery, similar screen size, it was way better battery in Xiaomi Note 10. OEMs puts those Mediatek SoCs in their phones just because of the cost and because of shortage globally, thats why now we have half Galaxy A series with (low end, old) MediaTek soCs.. Botton line, (Super) Amiled screen is better than IPS, at least, low end IPS (like in Xiaomi phones from tghe past), and Qualcomm is more optimized for the battery life, if you're into, its better for custom ROMs, for Google camera etc.. :)

                  adsubzero, 27 Oct 2021OLED over IPS on a phone ANY TIME OF THE DAY. It's sup... moreOLED is only superior in CONTRAST(deep blacks is why the contrastbis so high)

                  It loses to brightness efficiency (max brightness, whites)

                  It loses in repair costs

                  It loses in minimum brightness

                  It loses in longevity (burn in)

                  It loses in sharpness (stupid diamond pentile OLED)

                  It loses in high refresh rate (poor gamma calibration issues)

                  It loses in maximum full screen brightness

                  Lol better thermals on snap explain the heating difference between the 800U Vs the 750G here:
                  @17:43 mark
                  https://youtu.be/tfxXVuX18Iw

                  And also explain why it takes 7%
                  (Dimensity 800U)power consumption Vs 25% (snap 750G) when playing pubg here:

                  @8:23 mark
                  https://youtu.be/Nw64wnVhiDE

                    IpsDisplay, 27 Oct 2021Yes they are But snap fanboys whan Snapdragon and amole... moreOLED over IPS on a phone ANY TIME OF THE DAY. It's superior in nearly every regard. Now when it comes to the chipset, even when comparing two chipsets with the same performance, SD has better thermals, battery life, and supports GCam, which are obviously important benefits.

                      Peter, you've made a mistake regarding the binning part, as 3 to 1 binning is impossible. What's happening is that 9 pixels (arranged in a 3 by 3 square) are binned to 1.

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                        • Anonymous
                        • X%b
                        • 27 Oct 2021

                        Xiaomi Be ready to get sued by Apple

                          Capt. Cake, 27 Oct 2021Dimensity 920 is better than all these snapdragon chips u&#... moreYes they are

                          But snap fanboys whan Snapdragon and amoled display at all costs

                          So they will be happy with 165hz and a 750G trust me

                            So much potential only to be ruined by a size not even a pocket can accept.

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                              • Heero
                              • y6W
                              • 27 Oct 2021

                              sumanto, 27 Oct 2021box, like an apple?Did Apple patent the boxy design? Glad they didn't copy the huge notch and camera set up that looks like a stove.

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                                • Anonymous
                                • LiX
                                • 27 Oct 2021

                                Bluewave, 26 Oct 2021Exactly no sd-card slot = No buy !!!.Sd=snapdragon, not micro "sd" hehe

                                  IpsDisplay, 26 Oct 2021Alright so if history repeats itself Global version will... moreDimensity 920 is better than all these snapdragon chips u've mentioned

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                                    • Sony
                                    • uvU
                                    • 27 Oct 2021

                                    sumanto, 27 Oct 2021box, like an apple?Super mobile

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                                      • D07
                                      • 27 Oct 2021

                                      For India it could be amoled+4g or lcd+5g

                                        box, like an apple?

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