New Redmi model surfaces on TENAA with 50MP camera
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joe nodden, 12 Mar 2022"I'd be very careful if I were you using the word... more"more efficient overall. Obviously if you display nothing but white at full brightness you're gonna be using up a lot of battery. However 99% of the time OLEDs will be more efficient. I mean honestly do you legitimately believe a display technology that lights up black areas is going to be more efficient, let alone better looking? It's absurd"
When you say things like these it shows you don't know what your talking about, OLEDs efficiency comes from individual pixels being able to turn off at lower brightness this same advantage becomes a disadvantage at higher brightness millions of pixels have to turn on .. a full backlight is more efficient for whites at this point and that is not an opinion that is object truth and I won't even throw in OLED's blue pixels early death into the mix
"History shows how people don't give a damn about sharpness considering the shift from 1440p being the standard to 1080p being the standard."
You are shifting the goal post you have not disproven that LCD is sharper with FULL RGB standard Vs modern OLED nice straw man tho
"No, no it doesn't. Sure, it'll lose in terms of lifespan if you're using one on a demo unit phone in a store, displaying the same image 24/7, but it wins in every other category. Screen burn in is the only issue with OLEDs and I have yet to see the issue occur on any OLED I've used. And I've been using my LG V30 since 2018."
Losing only in in lifespan have massive implications for a display.. color accuracy, screen brightness, viewing angles virtually every quality of a display is tied to lifespan OLED has high peak performance but poor sustaine performance
OLED loses in sharpness especially modern ones due not using FULL RGB
IT loses is reparability
IT loses is refresh rate efficiency and refresh rate peak
IT loses in strain on the eyes because of PWM .. DC dimming isn't even a standard in OLED
It loses in peak brightness efficiency
Gsmarena own redmi note 11pro + review was beaten in energy efficiency by the realme 9 pro from phones essentially the exact same spec with only the screen being different and the battery life was SUPERIOR
"Give me a single LCD equipped phone that GSMArena tested to have a brighter display than the S22 Ultra's display."
Gsmarena has not tested any so that convenience is yours but you can look to the aquos R series for competition
And I said screen technology meaning overall , small screen smartphones mislead people many
"does that even mean? Less versatile? In terms of use cases? I don't see foldable LCDs? I don't see under-display cameras on LCDs?"
In technology, you want to see foldable LCD , refer to OLCD screens, in regards to versatility yes I am talking about use cases and application of the display stack..
You want E-ink like reading experience remove the backlight and you get the TCL NXT PAPER, you want high contrast virtually equal to OLED you go DUAL CELL technology, , 4000nits brightness you go MINILED,you can even add micro led to the LCD stack,transparent LCDs you name it
"Wrong again"
Not sure what point your saying is wrong here are you saying people that dismiss LCD is MORE likely to know about LCD screens.. id make an educated guess to say you cannot prove me wrong on that simply because psychological people lean to confirm their own bias so it's more likely that this who love OLED will know more about OLED
For reasons like this we have the scientific method that tries to prove yourself wrong first and when you unable to do so you make a conclusion trust me people are not trying to prove themselves incorrect they want to prove themselves right
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IpsDisplay, 11 Mar 2022I'd be very careful if I were you using the word objec... more"I'd be very careful if I were you using the word objective" Oh I was careful and I had every reason to say it.
"Your being intellectually dishonest if you think so" (1) I was not. (2) It's "you're" not "your". (3) Why are you using the word "intellectually" there?
"OLED cannot be objectively better if it loses in many categories" No, no it doesn't. Sure, it'll lose in terms of lifespan if you're using one on a demo unit phone in a store, displaying the same image 24/7, but it wins in every other category. Screen burn in is the only issue with OLEDs and I have yet to see the issue occur on any OLED I've used. And I've been using my LG V30 since 2018.
"OLED is still the dimmer screen technology" Give me a single LCD equipped phone that GSMArena tested to have a brighter display than the S22 Ultra's display.
"OLED is still the less versatile display technology" What does that even mean? Less versatile? In terms of use cases? I don't see foldable LCDs? I don't see under-display cameras on LCDs?
"Still is less sharp as modern ones don't use full RGB" History shows how people don't give a damn about sharpness considering the shift from 1440p being the standard to 1080p being the standard.
"OLED is still the least efficient at high brightness" OLED is more efficient overall. Obviously if you display nothing but white at full brightness you're gonna be using up a lot of battery. However 99% of the time OLEDs will be more efficient. I mean honestly do you legitimately believe a display technology that lights up black areas is going to be more efficient, let alone better looking? It's absurd.
"Usually OLED fans barely know anything about LCD displays" Wrong again.
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IpsDisplay, 11 Mar 2022Nonsense if I ask you what the best mobile LCD displays ava... moreYeah I couldn't because they're all absolute garbage.
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IpsDisplay, 12 Mar 2022I do not blame everything on OLED I am biased ..as we al... moreI mean, I get it, but it's kinda unnecessary to say the other one as 'gimmick' or 'deal-breaker' or anything like that. I also get that LCD is overlooked and it also has it own advantages over OLED panels, but yeah...
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AnonD-1018516, 12 Mar 2022My point is that, I saw a lot of your other comments, which... moreI do not blame everything on OLED
I am biased ..as we all are ..but because people keep constantly disrespecting LCD as if it has no defining qualities I keep defending it
I can admit sometimes I do it when it's uncalled for or unprovoked but hey I'm a big fan of the technology
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IpsDisplay, 09 Mar 2022Here is the irony and hypocrisy: the person you replied... moreMy point is that, I saw a lot of your other comments, which clearly showed that you are biased. Why? You seem to blame everything on the OLED displays and act like IPS is the king and such. Different display types suit different people. For you, IPS is enough, but for people who want to have their screen as bright and saturated with the deepest black color they can possibly get, they want to get OLED. And as these panels are more expensive, they have to sacrifice other stuffs, but those stuffs that are cut down are still exceptable and competitive for the price. But does that mean OLED screen = deal breaker, and does that mean that it's bad? Absolutely not. That's why I said that you are being biased.
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joe nodden, 11 Mar 2022How am I biased when OLEDs are objectively superior. Even c... moreNonsense if I ask you what the best mobile LCD displays available you couldn't even give me good examples
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joe nodden, 11 Mar 2022How am I biased when OLEDs are objectively superior. Even c... moreI'd be very careful if I were you using the word objective
Your being intellectually dishonest if you think so
OLED cannot be objectively better if it loses in many categories
OLED still has the worse sustained display performance because of its organic nature
OLED is still the dimmer screen technology
OLED is still the less versatile display technology
Still is less sharp as modern ones don't use full RGB
OLED is still the least efficient at high brightness
Usually OLED fans barely know anything about LCD displays or have a bubble vision of display technology solely based on smartphones displays
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IpsDisplay, 09 Mar 2022Hence the word "virtually" objectively the change... moreHaven't I made myself clear? The fact that they still exist at all is a problem.
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IpsDisplay, 09 Mar 2022Here is the irony and hypocrisy: the person you replied... moreHow am I biased when OLEDs are objectively superior. Even cheap phones like the Redmi K40 are getting E4 panels that outclass the best mobile LCD technology has to offer.
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AnonD-1018516, 09 Mar 2022That person you are replying to... I can say that they are ... moreHere is the irony and hypocrisy:
the person you replied to is biased to OLED
Clearly it is his preference
But when people are fans of LCD or biased to it is some sort of problem?
People openly voice their preference to OLED with almost zero resistance but if you dare have A bias to LCD your called out on it
How comes I've never even seen you comment on somesones OLED bias ??
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joe nodden, 09 Mar 2022The fact that we're seeing a leaked phone without an O... moreHence the word "virtually" objectively the change is towards OLED
A simple counterpoint statistic or basically any graph shows this pattern
So how are you tired of LCD when the trend is leaning towards your favour in quantity
How can you have a logic of being tired of LCD when releases are less and less toward LCD makes no sense
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- 09 Mar 2022
Looks like Vivo, oppo, oneplus, MI, Realme are sharing phone's design for cost reduction! 🤭🤭
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end of 48mp flood now 50mp
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AnonD-1018516, 09 Mar 2022That person you are replying to... I can say that they are ... moreOh trust me I know, I've seen this guy countless times.
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joe nodden, 09 Mar 2022The fact that we're seeing a leaked phone without an O... moreThat person you are replying to... I can say that they are a little bias toward LCD panels after all.
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That‘s exactly the Redmi Note11E, not any new model.
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IpsDisplay, 09 Mar 2022How can you be tired of LCDS when Xiaomi has literally swit... moreThe fact that we're seeing a leaked phone without an OLED means they haven't.
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joe nodden, 09 Mar 2022I'm tired of LCDs. We need OLEDs not underwhelming 50M... moreHow can you be tired of LCDS when Xiaomi has literally switched over virtually the entire portfolio to OLED??