Huawei Mate Xs 2 announced with SD888 4G and stylus support, MatePad SE tags along
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joe nodden, 30 Apr 2022These are SoCs not motors, stop describing them using "... moresingle 300 mm wafer built on the 5nm node costs approximately $16,988. A similar wafer built on the 7nm node reportedly costs $9,346.
You can keep your cheap poorvtrash 5nm vs my 9nm bigger die core and much premium quality than you cheap trash junk low cost saving diesel vs petrol 9nm
Lmfaoooooo
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Rotciv Ikias, 30 Apr 2022WTF torque in smart phone chips😂😂😂😂😂Current voltage and TDP, threshold
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joe nodden, 30 Apr 2022These are SoCs not motors, stop describing them using "... more14 nm - higher TDP, lower density, higher clocks (5.5 GHz)
10 nm - lower TDP, higher density, lower clocks (5.3 GHz)
7 nm - lower TDP, higher density, lower clocks (5 GHz)
I'd take a bigger nm core since I carry powerbank 5000, so if it drains more battery I ain't bothered. Just like driving a car empath v22 with 3.0L vs 2.0L, it's not costing you money, it's just saving you battery.
People who drive ferrari lambo Porsche don't give rats about petrol cost, since the engine is 6.0L vs your cheap 2.0L trash engine
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- 01 May 2022
joe nodden, 30 Apr 2022These are SoCs not motors, stop describing them using "... moreDies are manufactured from silicon wafers that DO have constrianed size. Making dies larger is more expensive because more material is required to make a certain number of chips.
Increasing die size further reduces yield because there is more opportunity for something in the die to go wrong, requiring that it be binned lower. This further drives up price.
Finally, die size HAS increased - but it is far more economical and beneifical to shrink the transitors.
Bid cpu die cores at 9nm is much better than small maggot 4nm too save money and less energy.
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- 01 May 2022
joe nodden, 30 Apr 2022These are SoCs not motors, stop describing them using "... moreThink of a CPU as a network of connected nodes (transistors). In order to provide more capabilities the number of nodes and the paths between them increase to a degree, but that increase is linear. So one generation of a CPU might have a million nodes, the next might have 1.5 million. With miniaturization of the circuit, the number of nodes and paths are condensed into a smaller footprint. The current fabrication processes are down to 30 nanometers.
Let's say that you need five units per node and five units distance between two nodes. End to end, in a straight line you can create a bus of 22222 nodes in 1 CM of space. You can make a matrix of 493 million nodes in a square CM. The design of the circuit is what contains the CPU's logic. Doubling the space is not what increases the speed, it just would enable the circuit to have more logical operators. Or in the case of multi-core CPUs to allow the circuit to handle more work in parallel. Increasing the footprint would actually decrease the clock speed
I'd takeca big due cpu 7nm over small maggot 4nm
S888 blows the maggot 4nm generation 1snapdragon
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- 30 Apr 2022
77, 30 Apr 2022It's called rooting with Custom kernels and Rom.
I&#... moreThese are SoCs not motors, stop describing them using "torque" and "brutal power". (Although "brutal power" isn't even a term you'd use to describe a motor)
And I assumed you just made a halfwitted spelling mistake at first by saying "blows" instead of "blows away". But now you've gone and made the same mistake, this time not even specifying what it could be blowing away in terms of performance. What on Earth are you saying? You're not saying it blows as in it's terrible because you at least made it clear that you didn't think the 888 was terrible. And why are you using the term "V12"? V12 as in a 12 cylinder engine? These are SoCs.
I can't formulate a response to something that is completely unintelligible. Quit your nonsensical analogies and state your point with consistent terminology. I'm not decoding your argument.
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- r39
- 30 Apr 2022
Anonymous, 30 Apr 2022I never use 5g on my s22ultra and Sony pro-i, use 4G, and e... moreYeah I agree about 5g not really being useful at this point but after paying $1000+ for any smartphone I expect it to be future proof by having 5g.
i mean one of the most important aspect of smartphones is network connections
Even some affordable smartphones have 5g even though there it is not as high-tech as flagships 5g
It's just good to know u have the future network even though u don't really use it
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- 30 Apr 2022
77, 30 Apr 2022It's called rooting with Custom kernels and Rom. I&#... moreWTF torque in smart phone chips😂😂😂😂😂
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- 30 Apr 2022
77, 29 Apr 2022Sexy Stylish Trendy contemporary Concept No rounded ed... moreI hope you'll get more than one of it, then. Most people would not want an outward-folding screen, and for a very good reason.
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- 30 Apr 2022
joe nodden, 30 Apr 2022You could not be more wrong. "S888 blows the Generatio... moreIt's called rooting with Custom kernels and Rom.
I'd take a big die core with more current voltage at 12watts than 4nm vs 6nm core.
V12 6nm vs v12 4nm. Judge yourself
V12 6nm blows , because has more torque
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- 30 Apr 2022
Aierlan, 29 Apr 2022Yeah, basically the whole east coast will have good 5g. The... moreWell i never been in China or any Asia country in my life but i am willing to pay some holydays.
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AnonD-844232, 29 Apr 2022Nobody will buy this phone in slovakia :DMan i dojnt think so.
Google services or not Huawei is still a lot better brand than any other you can name.
Harmony is way more user friendly and camera on Huawei phones is way better than any competition or any other brand you can name.
P50 pro for example have a lot better camera than any other brand maybe apart Honor Magic 4 ultimate.
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AnonD-844232, 29 Apr 2022I don't believe in slovakia ppl buys 1000 worth smartp... moreMan then you have to believe.
Every week when a ceratin flagship is released I.E. Samsung S22 many people got new Samsung from carrier on a monthly plan and were looking for a screen protector or a case. Same goes for other flagships from other brands.
Yes most people have phones with priceta under 400 but still a decent ammount of people have flagship grade device or Apple 13.
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- 30 Apr 2022
77, 29 Apr 2022S888 blows the Generation 1 snapdragon, because the s888 h... moreYou could not be more wrong. "S888 blows the Generation 1 snapdragon"? Bruh. They were both absolute disgraces and to say one blows the other away is like saying a student that scored 49% on a test blew the student that scored 48% away. The Dimensity 9000 performs performs better than both with lower temps and lower power draw.
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- 30 Apr 2022
Rotciv Ikias, 29 Apr 2022Wow this phone is really good it ALMOST BEATS the Fold3 but... moreI never use 5g on my s22ultra and Sony pro-i, use 4G, and even I get 350mbps at 4G
5g uses and drains battery
I'm in UK london
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- 29 Apr 2022
There is certainly advantages to the outer Fold design, but the disadvantage of having the screen exposed all the time outweighs them all.
The other Foldables are Z copies. If the leaks are true, the Fold 4 will easily set itself apart from the M, N, X and V. So I respect Huawei for sticking with this design. You have to lead if you want to set yourself apart.
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- r39
- 29 Apr 2022
Wow this phone is really good it ALMOST BEATS the Fold3 but is just those software pro features that the zfold3,IP rating and of course the dealbreakers for me No Google services and the fact that the SD888 is 4g here not 5g but its a solid PRICEY package
Huawei is really good,why did Donald Trump have to ban them😥😥😥😥😥😥
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- 29 Apr 2022
AnonD-731363, 29 Apr 2022Man i dont think so china is so big i bet not all parts of ... moreYeah, basically the whole east coast will have good 5g. The east coast is the wealthy side and very built up. I'd guess that perhaps the west of China and some central areas may not be as good in terms of 5g. Western China is far less developed in general. Having said that I never venture to West China so I really don't know what the 5g access is like in that region
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- 29 Apr 2022
Anonymous, 29 Apr 2022until u see fold 4, altho i bet still won't top fold 3... moreFold3 is ugly, the mate 2 this phone is like note 20 amd S22Ultra design, boxy rectangular sharp edges.
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- 29 Apr 2022
I would never buy 4G phone today...
I have Mate 20 X 4G and speed is max 100Mbps .. I have Mate 20X 5G too and when I swapped SIM card damn .. 700Mbps... AMAAZING !
But download is then capped to 30MB... So real 5G is 300 Meg...
Not sure why speed net measures 700 meg which should download 70 MB s