OEMs may be required to adopt ‘Seamless Updates’ on devices launching with Android 13

22 September 2022
We’re looking at you, Samsung.

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Rkm, 22 Sep 2022Your have missed the point. Google is not enforcing 'u... moreDoes anyone here even READ anything? Like, ACTUALLY read? I was expanding on the whatever Google will be enforcing now to enforce MORE things for the good of all Android users. Damn people.

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    SShock, 22 Sep 2022Google finally enforcing something to make Android better? ... moreYour have missed the point. Google is not enforcing 'updates', they are just enforcing the 'method' of the update. OEMs can still use the correct 'method' and provide paltry updates.

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      cyber, 22 Sep 2022that is the one feauture i never want to exist,instaling sy... moreWhat are you even talking about?

        Anonymous, 22 Sep 2022Can't you read? I said minimum 1 year. That's you... moreI was realistic. You should know me, I'd demand 5, but we all know that's NEVER going to happen when not even Google itself offers that much. The minimum would help the cheaper phones that are left to mercy of phone makers that give them "maybe they'll get updates" treatment.

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          • 22 Sep 2022

          Excellent. This is irksome on Samsung devices.

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            • 22 Sep 2022

            RMSvalue, 22 Sep 2022ZERO mark for your essay xddd👌👍🏻

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              SShock, 22 Sep 2022Do you even understand what MINIMUM means? It means NO LESS... moreCan't you read? I said minimum 1 year. That's your words from the beginning 🤦🏻‍♂️ what you should asked for is minimum 5 years of major OS update instead of 1 year 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

                RealLifePhones, 22 Sep 2022I get the benefit but I think people in the media overestim... moreExactly this. When is the last time a update caused serious down-time on a phone.

                  "Samsung we're looking at you?" Samsung is the fastest manufacturer to push updates lmao wth

                    Anonymous, 22 Sep 2022Not relevant to article Article is talking about A/B par... moreUm, I know? I just expanded on what Google should also enforce on phone makers to improve the situation. A/B partitions is a start, but they absolutely need to do something because state of Android OS as whole is terrible because everyone does it their own way and it's always in best interest of companies, not users.

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                      Anonymous, 22 Sep 2022Explain why, please. Otherwise, it makes no sense.updating system files while android runing in the same time and user interacting with it,its not bad idea- is very dumb one,both partitions can be wiped out if some error ocurs and the device became useless brick,nokia and motorola use this type of booting and the i repair most of them after such a updates

                        Anonymous, 22 Sep 2022Minimum 1 year major OS update?? So, your nothing phone tha... moreDo you even understand what MINIMUM means? It means NO LESS THAN THAT, not "strictly that". Jesus you're dense.

                          potato4k, 22 Sep 2022Most Chinese are still releasing new phones with Android 11... morewhat? the last 10 new xiaomi phones released with android 12.. realme and oppo too..

                            I get the benefit but I think people in the media overestimate the issue a bit. Maybe it's just me but I don't get anxiety when my phone updates for like 5 minutes once a month and I can't use it in that time 🤷‍♂️

                              Google's method has been quite shoddy.
                              It's meant to be a fail-safe, but has led to several Pixel devices getting bricked when on the Beta program. Google has honoured to replace them, but doubt for all users.

                              When it comes to Custom Roms, A/B partitions still cause issues.
                              The fix is relatively easy, but it's upon Google to implement it properly through AOSP, and I wouldn't hold my breath for it. It's one area where Microsoft actually does better.

                                Most Chinese are still releasing new phones with Android 11. They’ll just keep staying on Android 11 or 12.
                                Instead of requiring this, how about requiring OEMs to provide software support for at least 4 years? Who cares about partition stuff when most OEMs don’t even bother updating their phones.

                                  Result of this will be : most phones will launch with Android 12 :D

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                                    How will Samsung implement all their low level kernel hacks now?
                                    They are the only holdouts left using the ugly old system anyway.

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                                      "As one of top Android smartphone brands in the world, Samsung is one OEM that has yet to implement Seamless Updates to its smartphones – flagships included. We’re sure that the brand has its reasons for not using A/B updates, but it comes at the inconvenience of the user who will have to schedule their updates to a time when they won’t be awake - or face several minutes of downtime during a critical moment when the device is needed"

                                      I thought Samsung was actually one of those using it lol. Their update feels fast enough for me (and that was on an A6+ and a Tab S6 Lite). I wonder if using partitions means giving Google access to more data or if it involves security risks and that's why Samsung don't do it that way....

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                                        SShock, 22 Sep 2022Google finally enforcing something to make Android better? ... moreMinimum 1 year major OS update?? So, your nothing phone that worth more than regular mid range phone is worth just 1 major OS update?? Your hard earned money just worth 1 year major OS update?? No wonder Apple laughing at Android phone 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️