Analysts: lead times for iPhone 14 series drop below that for iPhone 13 in the same period

17 October 2022
Six weeks after the iPhone 14 series became available, the wait times have dropped noticeably - the 14 and 14 Plus are available with next-day delivery in some regions.

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Anonymous, 17 Oct 2022Ordred pro max on laynch day (in EU), was supposed to get i... moreAt least you know when to expect it. I ordered mine during preorder, and they say they have absolutely no idea when I will receive my device. It wouldn't surprise me at all if I didn't get it until around New Year's, the way they are going.

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    • Anonymous
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    • 23 Oct 2022

    Market is slowly but surely speaking now. Enough is enough. The price hikes overseas and lack of compelling features is slowing demand. Apple is living in cuckoo land if it thinks it can raise prices to maintain profits and make customers foot the bill. They make more than enough abnormal profit anyway. They have totally ruined the standard 14 series now with stupid prices and the 14 plus is the most pathetic idea yet for them to make. It doesn’t even have the best battery life. Its a useless model out of place. At least the 13 mini offered something different for certain users. I own Apple products because I like them but I do not agree with everything they (Apple) do.

      Trooper, 18 Oct 2022Tech firms manipulating the market for their own benefit, n... morehttps://m.gsmarena.com/canalys_global_smartphone_shipments_declined_by_9_in_q3_2022-news-56201.php Is Apple manipulating the whole smartphone market? 😆

      "Apple came in second place with an 18% market share and the only top-five vendor to experience positive yearly growth. "

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        • Trooper
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        • 18 Oct 2022

        Tech firms manipulating the market for their own benefit, nothing new there...

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          • Anonymous
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          • 18 Oct 2022

          Because it is not expensive enough. They should have started with a 2000 usd price for the base model, then it would have been an instant market hit. The more expensive the more premium it is the more exclusive the better your customers will like you.

            Bodygard, 18 Oct 2022Yep, apple store, 2 friends of mine got them in 1 week and ... moreSounds weird, but clearly positive surprise for them! Especially when people who ordered them almost launch day are still waiting theirs, for example here's people commenting https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/x9rpqq/preorder_and_shipping_megathread_iphone_14_iphone/

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              • 18 Oct 2022

              -Trix-, 17 Oct 2022"Apple is trying to artificially keep the waiting time... moreThey can only keep the lead times artificially high for so long.

              Also what are the sales figure of iPhone 14 and plus. Notice that apple didn't release them.

                -Trix-, 17 Oct 2022"In a note to investors seen by AppleInsider, analysts... more"it's the best iPhone lineup Apple ever shipped"

                That "sounds" like Tim Cook speaking. Every year he says the same "it's the best iPhone ever" well duhh captain obvious. Of course the newer model is always the best. Strange if it wasn't right?...

                  -Trix-, 17 Oct 2022The wait times only apply to Apple store, are you saying pe... moreYep, apple store, 2 friends of mine got them in 1 week and half when in site said 3-4 weeks. More people in a forum i read also got them before that time.

                    Bodygard, 17 Oct 2022Next week record numbers? Do you know something we don'... more"In a note to investors seen by AppleInsider, analysts from JP Morgan forecast revenue of $90 billion for Apple. This beats the present Wall Street consensus of $88.6 billion on the quarter. Apple earned $83.4 billion in its fiscal fourth quarter of 2021."

                    I bet the 14 series going to sell really well and why shouldn't it, it's the best iPhone lineup Apple ever shipped and with size of iPhone userbase and record amount of Android switchers it can't be anything else than best seller.

                      Bodygard, 17 Oct 2022That is not the point. The point is they are saying there&#... moreThe wait times only apply to Apple store, are you saying people ordered them directly from Apple and then got it weeks before than meant to? That sounds highly unlikely, because Apple wait times been very accurate in the past.

                      But if you mean ordering it from local tech store or the carrier, Week sounds about right, that's same where i live, but if i order it from Apple directly it's alteast three weeks wait

                        -Trix-, 17 Oct 2022"Apple is trying to artificially keep the waiting time... moreNext week record numbers? Do you know something we don't yet? Or it's forecasting also?

                        Tsmc profits don't directly translate to Apple having more profit. There's more variables in there. And that's for a period of time were iPhone 14 models were not selling yet. They were building them but Apple wasn't selling yet and going by how fast they're delivering them vs the waiting time prediction, i bet they have a lot in stock that they didn't sell yet.
                        Let's see the numbers then. I bet this iPhone 14 models are not gonna sell as well as 12 and 13 did.
                        As for Apple stocks, 2021 by this time it was pumping from 140-180 dollars per share, this year? coming down...

                          Anonymous, 17 Oct 2022„In my country in Europe people who are buying it, are told... moreThat is not the point. The point is they are saying there's a pretty high demand and showing waiting times of 3-4 weeks when in fact people get the devices much much sooner. 3-4 weeks to 1 week is insane variation don't you think? Something doesn't add up or their prediction system is wrong by such a huge margin? Overestimating it so much? I wouldn't think so.

                            Who will pay 1000+ $£€ etc for a new device? The price is insane! Plus older devices can do the job pretty good! So what’s the point upgrading?

                              Bodygard, 17 Oct 2022Apple is trying to artificially keep the waiting times high... more"Apple is trying to artificially keep the waiting times high hahahaha to make people believe that demand is extremely high for these devices when in truth, it's not. "

                              And next Week with record quarter they are propably faking those numbers too? 😆😂 c'mon! 🤦🏻‍♂️

                              https://macdailynews.com/2022/10/14/apple-supplier-tsmcs-shares-leap-after-profit-beats-estimates/ Fake too?

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                                • Anonymous
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                                • 17 Oct 2022

                                Ordred pro max on laynch day (in EU), was supposed to get it on the 21st, got notification that it wont get here till 16th of next month. Pissed off to no end, will not use that vendoor ever again. Some others already have recieved theirs from other vendoors.

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                                  • Anonymous
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                                  • 17 Oct 2022

                                  Anonymous, 17 Oct 2022„In my country in Europe people who are buying it, are told... moreAddition: predictive systems can only be so accurate. You can’t for sure say today that the weather in 20 days will be 18°C and cloudy.

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                                    • Anonymous
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                                    • 17 Oct 2022

                                    Bodygard, 17 Oct 2022Apple is trying to artificially keep the waiting times high... more„In my country in Europe people who are buying it, are told 3-4 weeks waiting but after 1 week it arrives!“

                                    Would be a worse experience for the customer if it was the other way round, wouldn’t it be?
                                    Real production is fluctuating more than some spreadsheet numbers. New hired workers, sick workers, workers that come back from being sick, these factors all play into delivery times. And then it‘s better to overestimate shipping time and beat those, than underestimating shipping time and missing it.

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                                      • Anonymous
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                                      • 17 Oct 2022

                                      Bodygard, 17 Oct 2022Apple is trying to artificially keep the waiting times high... moreThat is what all the US companies for what ever is doing. Manipulate the numbers to show them selves in better light then they actually are. Well it's actually for global scale and not only US.

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                                        • Anonymous
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                                        • 17 Oct 2022

                                        iphone 14 non pro costs as much as iphone 13 pro max lol