Flashback: a look back at Intel-powered smartphones and tablets
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- SkullSamCandy
- X5u
- 13 Apr 2023
What about the Lenovo K900, it was the one I knew and I still remember it till today because I wanted one, that Intel Inside logo on the back side gave me the chills even on the Internet.
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- Sin
- 3aP
- 06 Dec 2022
It's sad the intel soc power asus zenfone series is not still being made as Android x86 smartphone would of been a nice too have
I know the Snapdragon 800 / Snapdragon 810 would Whoop a Intel atom powered smartphone in performance and battery life effectively
But the lack of Intel x86 smartphones is a problem
And the lack of OS choice as Android is a stand alone OS with no competition at all and a monopoly
Apple don't even compare too Android and has no
proential at all locked down and only for camera & social media
and is aimed at different market too Android
Microsoft made mobile version of Windows for arm based smartphone not desktop windows for smartphones plus no software support so failure
Blackberry a total joke features and basic phone still not left the store age and good hardware or browser never see the light of day on them and there software even more than apple is and don't even work properly
Any Linux versions everything is broken or lack app compatibility or beta or was from the past
So the problem Android has no reasonable competition or alternatives
Intel x86 smartphones with pc grade SSD storage and pc grade active cooling built-in fans with upgradable SSD & RAM with a bios & driver's like a pc
Say support up too 8tb storage X4 SSD slots & 128gb ram on the motherboard for upgradability X4 ram slot
With multiple ports quad sim card slots & triple SD card slot dual headphone jack deal changing ports HDMI port
With the opinion too choose what is version you want your smartphone too have
It's sad there is not a x86 version of say a Asus Rog gaming smartphone or new intel soc power asus zenfone that focus on being a x86 workstation portable pc gaming smartphone
but we do at least have a mediatek dimensity 9000+ version in the market that's a good step in the right direction
The main problem with smartphones today is limited storage & ram and lack of ports too connect smartphone too keyboards and mouse plus a touch screen Monitor small battery's size and lack of x86 smartphones hardware choice or os choice for a smartphone
Very upseting and just sad x86 intel soc power asus zenfone running Android stopped being made
As there was a lot of proential there
The proential was sky-high
For x86 smartphones
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- Sin
- 3aP
- 06 Dec 2022
kek, 06 Nov 2022If x86 was still around on Android, custom roms nowadays wo... morePossibility yeah
There would be a lot of os opinions
Linux mint os zorin os or possibly sailfish os
Android x86 comes too mind also or porting desktop windows over also
X86 is a lot more flexible and easy too work with for choice and os opinions too have installed and get driver's for and working bio's and make functional
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- 06 Dec 2022
Hemedans, 06 Nov 2022Atom didnt die though they were just rebranded, gemini lake... moreOk renamed
Is there even any x86 smartphones left in production?
Really sad x86 died and desktop windows os don't make it's way onto Smartphones
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- ishreal
- 7Be
- 09 Nov 2022
I installed Windows 11 on the Intel version of the Mi Pad 2. After a few updates it is SO much smoother and usable than W10. The 2gb of ram is a real bottleneck though, but it's a great travel and reading tablet.
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- MRSTEK
- whC
- 08 Nov 2022
Anonymous, 07 Nov 2022Slight side note about all this: there was a time where Int... moreYou mean SoFia?
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- Sliderpro
- swP
- 07 Nov 2022
Honestly I remember padfone series and Intel atom tablets. Atom tablets were doomed from the start as all attempts to make a lightweight windows on arm. It will never work, plain and simple.
Padfones though were revolutionary. Snapdragon padfone had outstanding build quality. Heck, it's my favourite build quality ever! Solid premium feel ping and looking phone. I wish Asus made a new padfone. Small 6 incher and 9 inch tablet. Perfect combo to be honest. Mobile phone would go to the top near camera block and oh god what kind of camera can you put there when you're not restricted by thickness! I wouldn't mind shooting from 9 inch tablet if it was 3 times better than a phone! And I wouldn't mind paying 2500$ for this because this would have stayed with me for ages
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- Anonymous
- T2i
- 07 Nov 2022
Slight side note about all this: there was a time where Intel actually licensed out their x86-64 architecture to Rockchip and Spreadtrum (now Unisoc). In both cases, they presented the only time you'll see x86 paired with Mali GPUs. Both are rare, though, with the latter only being used in some lesser-known brands. (The former at least had a couple of cheap ASUS tablets with them)
I actually got a Dell Venue 7 for free once because it came with a laptop I ordered at the time. Surprisingly, it wasn't too bad; it was smoother than my prior tablet, a cheap Allwinner A20-powered one. As for app compatibility, I DID run into a couple of issues; one game just acted weird on it, and I may have seen a few "your device isn't compatible" notices.
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- XTA
- 07 Nov 2022
had the zenfone 4 (2014 model), served as my spare phone in 2015 until 2018. it served me well than my galaxy grand2. only thing i hate is the battery. they drop over time, had to change battery like 2 times. i just trade up with another person and replaced by the redmi note 4 which it died in 2020. what a good deal of upgrading. but it lasted a year shorter than the asus
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- 07 Nov 2022
Anonymous, 07 Nov 2022Great comment, but you're missing the main point and t... moreHow did you measure just the soc power usage? Total device usage on rog phone 8+g1 was 14w with cpu and gpu maxed, 9000+ at 16w, according to xdas tests.
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- pLk
- 07 Nov 2022
SALAHKHANI, 07 Nov 2022What about Nokia N900.. Why someone forgets it .. Best Linu... moreDidn't have an Intel chip
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- 07 Nov 2022
Intel's history in mobile matches Intel's forrays in anything but traditional CPUs: lots of promising tech, but tons of wasted money and effort.
Which reminds me, I still have an old Asus Zenpad somewhere that's outfitted with an Atom x5-Z3560 chip, great screen and connectivity bogged down by these stupid unoptimized Intel chips - I managed to upgrade it to Android 6, but it's essentially unusuable due to being so slow.
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- Anonymous
- nyc
- 07 Nov 2022
Kangal, 07 Nov 2022Talking equivalents:
Slowest Cortex-A35 (in 1-4 cores) d... moreGreat comment, but you're missing the main point and that is perf/watt.
The Cortex x3 on 4nm is a ~1550 core on Geekbench, as a part of a 8W max SoC.
Nothing that Intel has can match those numbers.
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- mE0
- 07 Nov 2022
SALAHKHANI, 07 Nov 2022What about Nokia N900.. Why someone forgets it .. Best Linu... moreBecause it was powered by a Texas Instrument ARM based CPU, not an Intel, which this article is about...
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- Anonymous
- K1L
- 07 Nov 2022
Now that we have Windows on ARM, Intel really should create their own ARM SoC to fight against Qualcomm.
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- Anonymous
- gJt
- 07 Nov 2022
Gnusmas, 06 Nov 2022i had smartphone and tablet from Asus with Intel chips back... moreThat describes most Android phones experience.
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- vJt
- 07 Nov 2022
Hemedans, 06 Nov 2022intel discontinued that brand, at that time they target 2W ... moreTalking equivalents:
Slowest Cortex-A35 (in 1-4 cores) doesn't have an equivalent Intel processor.
Slow dual Cortex-A53 is equal to the slowest Atom cores.
More leveled quad Cortex-A55 is equal to the highest end Z8750.
Overclocked Cortex A515 are about equal the 8W Silver Atoms/Jasper cores.
Cortex-A57 is the slowest out of all the "medium" (big.LITTLE) ARM cores.
Slowest dual Cortex-A57 is about as fast as a low-end Core-M processor.
Slow dual Cortex-A73 is about as fast as a low-end Core-i3U processor.
Fast quad Cortex-A76 is about as fast as a mobile Core-i5U processor.
Fastest quad Cortex-A78 is about equal to a high-end mobile Core-i7U processor.
...these are Skylake cores, so anything from 2015-2019, based on Intel 6th to 9th gen.
Then we get to the actual BIG (DynamIQ) cores, in the X-family.
Cortex-X1 (A78), X2 (A710), and X3 (A715) are all similar in performance.
We're talking more inline with a 2020 Intel 10th gen Core-i5U processor.
So there's still some fair way to go for ARM, to compete against the 2023 Intel 13th gen cores. Apple is up there in competitiveness when looking at their A13, A14, A15, and A16 processor cores. Then there's the Apple M1 and M2, and they're trading blows in terms of performance. There's other custom cores like the Qualcomm Kryo-100, Nvidia Tegra (Denver 1,2, Carmel) and Samsung Mongoose (M1 to M5). These ranged in performance from the likes of a Cortex-A57 to the likes of Cortex-A77. So nothing to write home about.
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- SALAHKHANI
- 3Ye
- 07 Nov 2022
What about Nokia N900.. Why someone forgets it .. Best Linux machine ever made by Nokia by the way.
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- Anonymous
- 8@Z
- 07 Nov 2022
Flashbacks to my Rokr E2 with Linux and that pretty fast CPU (with POOR battery life), but at that time it was pretty normal. Stock OS was pretty bad, but with mods it was way better, volume mods, camera mods, a lot of native apps (when nearly all apps were Java ME), themes, fonts, modded kernels (way better battery management and less lag) and even emulators (impossible for JAVA ME phones to run at the same speed and stability). I loved that phone and its community, just like Android first years with multiple ROMs communities, now pretty much dead (i know that there are communities active right now, but nothing like in the past).
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- Anonymous
- vG@
- 07 Nov 2022
kek, 06 Nov 2022If x86 was still around on Android, custom roms nowadays wo... moreYeah it's called as Mobile platform FFS , Apple is making Desktop class Apps in it's M1/M2 powered tablets.